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Old 01-30-2012, 12:06 PM   #641
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So, apparantly, BBAMM is the MM from MML.

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Known as a Digger, a person who digs up relics from the past for research. He is a hot-tempered man, but has a strong sense of justice and is also very polite. His weak point is that he is easily rattled when backed into a corner. He is always running around in a hurry due to the demands of his partner Roll, and this time he’s been asked to travel to Antarctica to retrieve a mysterious box.
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So, they cancel a game a lot of people want, blame those people for it's cancellation and then turn the hero those same people were looking forward to playing into that guy in SFxT?
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Old 01-30-2012, 01:38 PM   #642
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One sentence that bears resemblance to Volnutt doesn't make him that. People are reading too much into that.
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Old 01-30-2012, 02:13 PM   #643
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It's like including a middle aged Link in a fighting game and saying in his bio "Known as the Hero of Time..." you instantly know, it's OoT Link. It's the same with Megaman. "Known as a digger" is all you need to know it's Megaman Volnutt. No other MM is a digger.
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Old 01-30-2012, 02:23 PM   #644
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Except the Link thing just wouldn't bother me. "Hey look, Saturday morning cartoon Link is in SoulCalibur V. People wanted him back since SC2 and they choose the worst Link ever. And he's supposed to be the Hero of Time Link? ...Oh wait, I don't give a shit."

Why on Earth would this be a problem? It's not even a Mega Man game, it's a guest spot on a fighting game - where he still has no bearing on the warring franchises. His look, bio, moves and such do not matter. Pac Man fans seem to be fine with Pac riding mecha.
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Old 01-30-2012, 02:54 PM   #646
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Gee, you're not upset about this, are you? It's just a representation of you based on your habits. It's not as if you won't be taken any less seriously.

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Old 01-30-2012, 03:26 PM   #648
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It just seems odd that of all the MM they could have attached him to, they chose Legends. A series whose fanbase they insist on pissing off.

Given that he's fictional, Capcom attaching a background to a character makes them that character. Even if it's not a MM game or canon. In SFxT, Volnutt is a middleaged, overweight loser in lycra.

That, along with cancelling MML3 and blaming the fans, gives the impression that they think lesser of the Legends fanbase than they think of the Classic or X fanbase. You can't tell me no one would be pissed if they canceled, for example, X9, blamed the X fanbase and then made X a fat loser in lycra in MvC4.

They didn't need to attach Volnutts background or anyones background to BBAMM. They could fix this entire thing by adding the word "imposter" somewhere in his bio.
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Except the Link thing just wouldn't bother me. "Hey look, Saturday morning cartoon Link is in SoulCalibur V. People wanted him back since SC2 and they choose the worst Link ever. And he's supposed to be the Hero of Time Link? ...Oh wait, I don't give a shit."

Why on Earth would this be a problem? It's not even a Mega Man game, it's a guest spot on a fighting game - where he still has no bearing on the warring franchises. His look, bio, moves and such do not matter. Pac Man fans seem to be fine with Pac riding mecha.
The biggest issue has been more of everyone just wants the classic Mega Man character and instead Capcom either trolls everyone (ex. UMvC 3 uses Frank West for classic Mega Man) or has been upset with the franchise ever since the creator left. They actually managed to deliver the classic Mega Man but he ends up being the fat middle aged bad box art version which is the last thing anyone actually wants with the series.

I'd also assume some of the anger could also be related to the strange or bad decisions Capcom has made this generation which keeps getting their fanbase really upset (ex. Resident Evil switching to an action-focused games, costly DLC, multiple versions of the same game, etc).
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It just seems odd that of all the MM they could have attached him to, they chose Legends. A series whose fanbase they insist on pissing off.
It's been my observation that Capcom pisses off fans by not spending money at all. They wouldn't R&D a MM character just to troll. All of their 'transgressions' against MM fans involved not spending money on something MM related.

My guess is Ono and Inafune legit thought BBA-MM was a cool and funny idea. The Legends backstory may have been either a cheap placeholder because they didn't want to craft an actual story for who was always a joke icon in the MM franchise. Personally, if Inafune himself is cool with it that's end of story. No corporate trolling or whatever. They thought it was cool, they attached known canon to him out of laziness, that's that.
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The biggest issue has been more of everyone just wants the classic Mega Man character and instead Capcom either trolls everyone (ex. UMvC 3 uses Frank West for classic Mega Man) or has been upset with the franchise ever since the creator left.
And I want classic Dante in a new DMC. Capcom does these things. To be totally honest, though, has Mega Man been commercially successful enough lately for Capcom to care? Aside from Khuntry who is diehard for MM, I didn't know the public at large gave this much a damn about the Blue Bomber. Nobody threw a party for Volnutt in TvC (and ironically Zero got more praise). He was ignored and even called out as annoying and weak in his MvC appearances. The spin-offs, ZX, Battle Network, Star Force, and Battle Command weren't huge. And they pushed BN hard - TV show and all. Nobody gave a shit.

So while I may understand why Khuntry is pissed at not having a proper MM or X in legit form for MvC3, or having Legends 3 or Universe come out, I don't see why the public at large gets so testy with the conspiracy theories when the public at large did not support Mega Man in the franchise's time of need.

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I'd also assume some of the anger could also be related to the strange or bad decisions Capcom has made this generation which keeps getting their fanbase really upset (ex. Resident Evil switching to an action-focused games, costly DLC, multiple versions of the same game, etc).
DmC, Legends 3 cancellation, PR confusion over SFxT Gems, unnecessary Westernization of their franchises, and others. Capcom's been on some strange shit.
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Excuse me, but I am the die hard mega man fan around these parts.


Also, to be fair, mega man 9 and 10 did very well, financially and critically, so the public HAS supported the series as of late.
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when the public at large did not support Mega Man in the franchise's time of need.
It's hard to buy and support games that don't get released.

Universe was reported to be a mess with its controls but it was fixable.
Legends 3 had a lot of excitement around it. Even when they insisted on only showing footage of that weird new guy and not MM, people ate it up. I even had plans to buy a 3DS purely to play MML3 and I'm not even the most hardcore MM fan.

There was no shortage of attention for either MM game. Even now, there is a petition for the continuation of MML3 with almost 60,000 supporters. That's almost 10,000 new supporters each month and it's just the hardcore English speaking fans. I'm sure there are even more here, in Japan and elsewhere that haven't signed the petition.
Though Capcom have said the game is dead for good. No matter how many people petition.

I know Inafune may have suggested BBAMM be in SFxT but I doubt he suggested attaching him to any previous MM.
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Only been rumored so far and not officially confirmed but it appears the 1st set of DLC content got leaked. Only 2 packs are character packs while the rest is related to gems or outfits.

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Boost Gem Pack 1 – $2.99
Includes 9 new gems to equip to your characters.

Boost Gem Pack 2 – $2.99
Includes 9 new gems to equip to your characters.

Color Edit Pack 1 – FREE
Includes 4 new colors to use in the Color Edit mode.

Costume Swap S Pack – $9.99
Includes a new costume for each of the Street Fighter characters, based on a Tekken character.

Costume Swap T Pack – $9.99
Includes a new costume for each of the Tekken characters, based on a Street Fighter character.

Costume Swap X Pack – $15.99
A combination of the S Pack and T Pack – Includes new costumes for each character, based on characters from the opposite series.

New Challengers Pack – $7.99
Adds 4 new characters to the game: Cody, Guy, Christie and Leo.

X Unlocker – $4.99
Unlocks two secret characters, Akuma and Ogre, as well as all additional character colors and special modes without having to perform the in-game tasks to unlock them.
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/...kken-revealed/
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The ESRB write up of the game could have leaked 2 more characters (both Tekken).

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This is an arcade-style fighting game in which players engage in two-on-two battles with characters from the Street Fighter and Tekken universes. Players punch, kick, and use special attacks (e.g., energy blasts, fireballs, electrical strikes) to deplete opponents’ life meters. Some fighters also use laser swords, chainsaws, metal claws, or explosives to knock characters across the screen or to the ground. One bear-like character can perform a flatulence attack to strike opponents, resulting in yellow gas clouds.

A variety of female fighters wear revealing outfits that expose large amounts of jiggling cleavage; some sequences include close-up camera angles on their breasts or buttocks. The dialogue references alcohol and drunkenness (e.g., “Getting drunk isn’t really a good way to fight,” “[W]anna go for a few drinks?”), and one wobbly character uses “drunken” fighting moves. The words “sh*t” and “a*s” appear in dialogue.
Eventhubs believes this means Alisa and Lei Wulong are in.
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Why Alisa?

Wulong should be fun though.
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Yeah, would rather have a balanced, not shitty character instead. Give us Dragunov or Bryan or Bruce or anyone else, really. Just not her.
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Well actually, I'd rather have elisa than Leo. Boooooooorrrrrriiiiiiiiing
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Leo reminds of that other generic androgynous type from DOA 4. Can't even remember his name. My brother is lethal with Leo, though. I'm seeing Leo/Lili/Ibuki/Cammy/Raven hell in the near future.
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Lei always struck me as a necessarily 3D character. Let's see how he adapts.
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I think he's fit. I hope at least half his moves stay in. Great if all of them.
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If I got to choose any more characters (besides Bison and Jin, since it's a given they are in) it would be Bryan Fury and Eddy on the tekken side, and Blanka and Alex on the street fighter side.
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Honestly though, was really hoping for Alex here, since he didn't make AE.
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I want Alisa though.

But if that rumored DLC is true, I want Christie and Cody
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I still think that we've been told who is in the game through the crossover outfit swap images.

Here are the images from a few months ago, in spoilers because there are a lot of them, and I've added who each character is dressed as and underlined the characters that have been anounced in some form or other (Gameplay, CGI trailer, Teaser, DLC list). So it makes sense that the characters not revealed but still represented are likely in, either at release or as future DLC.

It would be weird to have some outfits be based on included characters and have others be references to characters that aren't in. The fact that a lot are in means that these aren't just references to characters they didn't put in.

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Ogre & Lars

Rolento & M.Bison?

Jack 6 & Armour King

Hugo & Alex

Panda (Just a colour swap of Kuma, so she is in in that sense) & King

Poison & ???

Kuma & Angel (Kalyx says it's a Tekken 2 model swap of Kazuya and Kazuya is in.)

R.Mika & Sodom. (The only two I'm still waiting for.)

Raven & Yoshimitsu

M.Bison & Guy

Apparantly no one from Tekken. My bet is on Poison being dressed as the "real" final boss that we haven't seen yet. Pandoras "human" form. I'm no Tekken player but I looked up Sumos in Tekken. Hugo could be based on a guy called Ganryu?

Deejay & Charlie

Dragonuv & Jinpachi

Chun-Li & Ryu
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Julia's Chun-Li looks really good.
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There's no way that those costumes tell us who's left. Would be just too many characters for balance sake.

If anything a lot of those costumes are done to slightly appease fans who didn't get the character they wanted.

In that regard, I think better sign of who's yet to be announced is to look at what characters didn't get represented as Costumes. Eliza and Wu Long aren't in. Neither are Eddy or Fury.
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In that regard, I think better sign of who's yet to be announced is to look at what characters didn't get represented as Costumes. Eliza and Wu Long aren't in. Neither are Eddy or Fury.
Eliza and Wulong are probably costumes for characters that might have not been revealed at the time they showed these screens. Elisa could have been given Juris costume, for example.

Capcom posted this "teaser" image.



Dunno...Looks like Sakura to me.
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Yeah, Angel is a model swap of Devil.
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And Devil is Kazuya.

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• Vega is really strong. Has long range pokes. Rolling Crystal Flash is very effective in this one.

• Any move that holds the opponent in place is very valuable, so you can tag while Vega is doing his Roll to setup other stuff.

• He feels out of the newly announced Street Fighter characters (Balrog, Juri and Vega) Vega is the strongest.

• Footsies are very important in Street Fighter X Tekken, very centric to the gameplay. There's a lot of poking and footsies in general.

• Juri is faithful to her Street Fighter 4 counterpart.

• Seth feels Law is the best out of the Tekken characters that were recently announced (Paul, Law and Xiaoyu).

• Killian added that they're not even in the home stretch for character reveals or the innards of the game.
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And Devil is Kazuya.

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Yes, storyline wise, but we are talking purely about selectable characters, in which they are similar, but completely seperate characters.

Honestly, the angel costume makes me more convinced this dlc is meant simply to be nods to different characters of the series, as opposed to any indication of who's left to be announced.
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Yeah I think that, too. Unless Kazuya himself has a Devil/Angel alt model. I mean, SF4 has a million costumes.
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The next reveal is the 4 bosses. Then they'll do the DLC guys, which is only something like 3 or 4 characters. I'd call that being on the home stretch. Bosses, DLC, done.

Unless they're going to have a trailer that suddenly reveals 6 characters we had no idea where in.
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Doubt it. They're done, outside of future DLC.
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