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Old 01-05-2014, 05:20 PM   #1
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State Your Case: What role do you think championships should play in pro wrestling?
How important are championships in rasslin'? Should the World Title always be treated seriously and the main focus of the show? Explain and discuss your views on the role of championships in professional wrestling.




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Old 01-05-2014, 05:22 PM   #2
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They should be THE prize for your 'level', lower card guys should be aiming for the mid card belts etc.
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Old 01-05-2014, 05:27 PM   #3
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Yes they should be . The world title is the big prize and should of course occupy the lions share of the focus. Frankly I'm disappointed they have for now at least ditched the world heavyweight title given the prestige it represented. I think there should be two world titles but perhaps every now and again a title v title for the undisputed championship rather than this silly wwe world heavyweight championship.

Orton v Cena in a title v title match for the undisputed title could and should have been the main event for wm30.

The US title is pointless and should be axed, the IC title seems to be having some credibility restored to it again. Perhaps bringing back a cruiser weight title or a variant of the tv title for the likes of r truth and fandango to compete for.
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World Titles are serious business. No vanilla midget should EVER be champ.
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World Titles are serious business. No vanilla midget should EVER be champ.
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Old 01-05-2014, 08:34 PM   #6
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Championships should always be treated as important and when they are it just gets more guys over in the long run. I am a huge fan of them merging both world titles. I've been wanting that for years as having two world champions just always watered down each title. I understand it was a good business move and made Smackdown seem important. I haven't watched Smackdown in probably 5 years by the way. The problem is their world champion is shit right now. We all know I am a huge Orton fan, but they've booked him like total crap the past 6 months. He has no value right now and isn't doing anything for the title.

I wish they would make the IC title or US Titles important again. There's no excuse for these not to be. Curtis Axel was pure garbage as an IC champion and I love Ambrose, but I don't remember the last time he's defended it or if he has it wasn't very important. I remember back when The IC Title was the shit with the likes of Benoit, Jericho, Guerrero and those guys. Orton was a great IC champ as John Cena was an awesome US Champ. But even before that they made the title seem important duing the Attitude era when shit guys like Godfather and Road Dogg had it. They could easily get the titles over and make them seem important but they just don't care about them it seems like.

Now the Tag Titles have had a great push as of late and there's a ton of teams. I love the tag division at the moment. It's not quite the E&C/Hardy's/Dudleys, but we've got a lot of teams going for them and they've done a decent job there.


Probably the best booking of a mid card title ever was the Hardcore Title. That's how you get a bunch of mid carders over.
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Old 01-05-2014, 09:51 PM   #8
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If they want to make the IC title important again then an IC champ v WWE champ title v title match is what we need. Maybe have Langston go on some long streak a la Goldberg but not as obvious like with Ryback and then have him challenge the champ preferably a heel at a ppv and make it a big thing? Maybe have him hold the belt all through 2014 win the 2015 royal rumble and then beat the champ at wm 31? Unless they want to really push him now.......
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I deem the role of championships to be very important. The main heavyweight title of the organization should signify excellence and prestige. The athlete holding the belt should comply with the requirements and be the focus of the company. Secondary heavyweight titles should represent the future. The athlete holding the belt should be someone with promise and great set of skills. If his run with the secondary belt is a success, he should be considered for the primary strap.

The tag team championships should be reserved for the finest tag team wrestlers. Unless there is a distinct alpha male in a tag team combination, they should never be broken up. The belts themselves should be positioned as the highest attainable prize instead of being a gateway to the secondary and primary belts (with the above mentioned exception).

If championships aren't protected and cherished they will lose their importance and become mere props.
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I think Money in the Bank has gone a long way in turning the title into a prop. It's put shocking moments (that get less shocking the more you see it) over making the title a big deal and something that can put butts in the seats simply by being fought for.
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It gets me SO ANGRY, when wrestlers throw the belt into the ring. It should be treated with the RESPECT it deserves!!!
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Old 01-06-2014, 01:53 AM   #12
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I think Money in the Bank has gone a long way in turning the title into a prop. It's put shocking moments (that get less shocking the more you see it) over making the title a big deal and something that can put butts in the seats simply by being fought for.
Well with mitb you're guaranteed a title shot and possibly a spot at a main even in a ppv but wwe have failed to milk that opportunity yet e.g. Having someone win the title at say one of the Ppvs and the mitb winner coming out to supposedly take advantage of the situation but then we're treated to a full blown match.

The fans would enjoy that kind of unpredictably rather than the dreary and tedious champion getting knocked out or low blowed and then the briefcase wielding cunt charges to the ring and wins the title without breaking into a sweat. It'd be hard work for whoever had to wrestle both matches but would put on a great show nevertheless. Be awesome to have that kind of unpredictability at say wrestlemania.

As for the belts well TNA got the right idea allowing the x division title holder a shot at the world title at destination x but for wwe to do that with the IC title would just be a blatant copycat.
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I think Money in the Bank has gone a long way in turning the title into a prop. It's put shocking moments (that get less shocking the more you see it) over making the title a big deal and something that can put butts in the seats simply by being fought for.
The build up to Edge's first cash-in was great. They need to be more innovative and creative.
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I have been thinking about this a lot lately. I'm of two minds about the World Championship of a company. On one hand, I feel that the best wrestler in the promotion should be holding it. This would add to its prestige and ensure that the top prize is being contested in the best way possible. A lot of people say that "Shawn Michaels didn't need to be a World Champion once he returned to the WWE," but imagine how that would have helped the World Title. John Cena and Randy Orton wouldn't have had a billion reigns each by now and this era might truly feel like "theirs."

On the other hand, I don't want to see the same guys hogging the title scene all the time. I liked it when Sheamus beat John Cena at the first TLC PPV to become WWE Champion. No one really saw it coming. Then Jack Swagger actually became the World Heavyweight Champion. Kurt Angle was never the biggest star when he initially won the WWE Title, but the company made it work.

The titles are tools to getting guys over, but they are only going to be effective if the guys vying for the title are up to scratch and make it seem worth holding. The WWE Title will be fine heading into WrestleMania and now that there is only one World Title to contend for. The IC Title and US Title are only going to be as interesting as the programs their holders are working.
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I don't really have a problem with Money in the Bank, but I think the company should have a long hard think about which talent they give the nod to each year. Only have the briefcase pulled down by a guy you think is ready to take the strap and run with it. If you're not ready to go with Damien Sandow as World Champion, don't have Damien Sandow win Money in the Bank. That simple.
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Yes they should be . The world title is the big prize and should of course occupy the lions share of the focus. Frankly I'm disappointed they have for now at least ditched the world heavyweight title given the prestige it represented. I think there should be two world titles but perhaps every now and again a title v title for the undisputed championship rather than this silly wwe world heavyweight championship.

Orton v Cena in a title v title match for the undisputed title could and should have been the main event for wm30.

The US title is pointless and should be axed, the IC title seems to be having some credibility restored to it again. Perhaps bringing back a cruiser weight title or a variant of the tv title for the likes of r truth and fandango to compete for.
WWE can't book a cruiserweight division. Which is sad, because it's so easy. Just let them go out and wrestle. Done.
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Actually, that's not fair. The WWE cruiserweight division was booked really well for a little while there. Until they started trying too hard with dumb angles to the point where it became more about that than the wrestling.

Also they fucked up Ultimo Dragon. How the fuck do you fuck up booking Ultimo Dragon? Werstlemania 20 should have been Ultimo vs Rey. Not some rushed, vapid gauntlet match.
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The main title should be the focal point of every show really.

During the Austin/McMahon feud, while Austin didn't hold the title too much, what did he want? The WWF title. But McMahon was standing in his way

Obviously, you can't have everyone feuding for the top belt, but what other feuds are around the top end of the scale should be guys jockeying for position. Like for example Undertaker vs Triple H at WM17, the next night on Raw, Undertaker could have come out stating a legit claim to be a number one contender having beaten Triple H

TNA had a good idea for a while, championed by Bischoff with a table of contenders to the top belt. But in true TNA sense, they couldn't follow through.

Midcard titles should be used to get people over, and there should always be something to aim for to stop people getting lost in the shuffle.
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I think Money in the Bank has gone a long way in turning the title into a prop. It's put shocking moments (that get less shocking the more you see it) over making the title a big deal and something that can put butts in the seats simply by being fought for.
If they booked the winners as legitimate threats ahead of cashing I don't think it would be an issue.
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Actually, that's not fair. The WWE cruiserweight division was booked really well for a little while there. Until they started trying too hard with dumb angles to the point where it became more about that than the wrestling.

Also they fucked up Ultimo Dragon. How the fuck do you fuck up booking Ultimo Dragon? Werstlemania 20 should have been Ultimo vs Rey. Not some rushed, vapid gauntlet match.
I've got no clue how they fucked up Ultimo Dragon. He never seemed to get anywhere near the fanfare behind him that Rey did. It's not like the guy wasn't talented enough -- he was the bomb in WCW. Really should have been Rey vs. Dragon for the Cruiserweight Title at WrestleMania XX. And I actually would have gone with Dragon winning to fire the first shot in a rivalry between the two.

Man, I hope the WWE gives Dragon another shot at some point. It seems really unlikely, given that he's getting older and there doesn't seem to be any "business" in it any more, but with a lot of WCW DVDs coming out, maybe they can bring him in for a few matches as a staple of WCW's Cruiserweight Division or something?
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On topic a bit more, I kind of liked it when TNA would have their championship matches at the top of the card, no matter which championship it was. It may not work for the flow of a WWE show, but as a concept for your average PPV or television show, I think it's a kind of neat way of saying "having a title is more important than not having a title."
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Depends on the title itself but they should be treated as a big deal for wrestlers and less as a waste or prop like the majority of the time.

Yes on the idea that the World title should be treated as something serious considering it is the company's top prize for every wrestler and the sign of being "the man" of the company. Doesn't always need to be the main focus of shows but shouldn't be treated as just an afterthought for long stretches of time (ex. Cena having a bigger spotlight than Punk during Punk's reign).
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