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Old 06-04-2015, 01:36 PM   #41
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Sandow is done. I don't see him ever getting past comedy relief status ever again.

They had a chance to make him something important after the breakup with Miz, but that ship has long since sailed.
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Old 06-04-2015, 02:01 PM   #42
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It definitely didn't help that he lost his feud with The Miz, and then The Miz promptly disappeared to film a movie.
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Old 06-04-2015, 02:10 PM   #43
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He should have worked with Miz to eliminate Big Show in the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal and then do the proper face turn/elimination of Miz afterwards.

Big Show didn't need the win in the least.
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Of course he did. It's currently doing wonders for him.
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Big shows post andre the Giant battle royal win W/L Record is a lot better than Barrets post KOTR win W/L Record.
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Sandow is done. I don't see him ever getting past comedy relief status ever again.

They had a chance to make him something important after the breakup with Miz, but that ship has long since sailed.
yeah he better join swagger and rusev and go to dest amarica wed nights
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Old 06-04-2015, 09:13 PM   #47
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It's not even funny.
Look. I don't think he's hilarious or anything, but I do occasionally get a chuckle from watching The 'Meta-Powers' or whatever they're called.

Now, I know some will probably disagree wity me here, but IMHO, it's kind of like when Jay Lethal had the "Black Machismo" gimmick, only Mandow has Axel to play Hogan to his Savage. It's not nearly as awesome as tge Black Machismo gimmick, but let's not shun these guys just yet.
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Old 06-04-2015, 09:15 PM   #48
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Also, it will almost certainly never happen, but I'd love to see the Axe msn team up with Foley and call themselves "Axel Foley" or "Axel 'F'".
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Old 06-04-2015, 10:45 PM   #49
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I thought the bullshit with Mizdow was overrated. Sandow shouldn't have been in that situation. I've never been the biggest mark for him, but his heel stuff on SmackDown was quite entertaining. His character evolved and I remember actually laughing out loud when he told the chess-playing computer to "Silence!" during his feud with Sheamus. In a good way -- not in a "this is ridiculously bad way." I don't think he should have won Money in the Bank, but when he did, he should have cashed it in successfully. He should have beaten Cena, had a trial run, then could have dropped the title back to Cena, to Del Rio in a Triple Threat with Cena at Survivor Series '13 or even to Cody Rhodes.

But even after he lost, there was progress to be had. The embarrassment of the smartest man in the room being trumped by John Cena. Sandow's mind was goaded into losing, and that should have sent him around the bend. Not in the way they had him do when he wrestled with different gimmicks each week; but he should have gotten a nasty streak and sold the fine line between genius and insanity. It should have made him more of a heel, as he turned up the intensity.

But the Miz stuff entertained people. But then Sandow did something very stupid. He tossed Miz before he went after Big Show. Why did this guy suddenly become an idiot? Was it pride? He had been a goofy sidekick for so long -- where was his pride then?

After the Miz break-up, they had a real good shot at making Sandow a worthy babyface. Not their top star, but someone they could put on a poster with a few other guys occasionally, and use to fill Elimination Chambers and Money in the Bank Ladder Matches. An upper mid-card/main event flirt. I think they rushed The Miz stuff. Miz should have ducked Sandow more. "I'd love to fight you tonight, Sandow, but I'm filming a movie, and I can't risk breaking my knuckles on your face. But here's your opponenet..."

At Extreme Rules, instead of putting Big Show against Roman Reings (and that match was good), they should have had Sandow want to prove himself again to Big Show. "I know I can beat you." Have Sandow try and get into Show's head and talk about how he's his own man now, whilst Show is still a stunt double for The Authority. Sandow wouldn't even need to win that match. Just show some heart, some guts, and as he is making a comeback, The Miz pops up and costs Sandow any momentum he had. Not a "cost him the win" sort of thing (Show isn't in any immediate danger), but Sandow is hindered.

They gave him a kick-ass theme, he proved he could cut a humble promo that explained it all away, and now he is doing everything he got away from again. He actually comes off like a liar, and it seems more intended to sabotage his momentum and give Vince chuckles more than anything.

Curtis Axel is a trickier case. I'm happy he has a job and is showing some personality, but not at the sacrifice of his own. The Axelmania stuff actually got Axel out of NXT early because it gave him something to do. Let him do it. Let him actually beat some guys and let him actually build momentum. Maybe Axelmania could have become a legitimately fine mid-card thing? The delusion of his personality could have even led to some big moments for him. It certainly gave him more time to work on the mic, which he desperately needs.
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Old 06-04-2015, 11:30 PM   #50
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Yeah, I definitely agree that Sandow should've had a trial main event championship run. Inexplicable that they didn't. If he didn't get over as a heel main event champ, would it really have been so hard to hotshot the title off him like they did with Dolph? That was precedent for such situations, IMO.

Also agree that entertaining as it is, Axel playing at being a Hogan parody has been done to death, although in WWE's execs' minds, fans aren't supposed to remember Eugene or when Charlie Haas did a few weeks on RAW doing tributes to legendary superstars. There's too many other examples to cite them all, but, yeah, let's drop the "#AxelMania" thing, make him into a solid mid-card guy. Maybe he could even challenge Cena in a US Championship open match. Not saying he's anywhere near ready to win it, but if you're going to waste this guy's talent without giving him a fucking chance to be a solid mid-carder again, release him.
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Old 06-05-2015, 02:13 AM   #51
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Look. I don't think he's hilarious or anything, but I do occasionally get a chuckle from watching The 'Meta-Powers' or whatever they're called.

Now, I know some will probably disagree wity me here, but IMHO, it's kind of like when Jay Lethal had the "Black Machismo" gimmick, only Mandow has Axel to play Hogan to his Savage. It's not nearly as awesome as tge Black Machismo gimmick, but let's not shun these guys just yet.
Well let us not forget that you are also somewhat certifiably retarded. No offense.

Black Machismo at least sounds like Savage. This is a mockery, and Sandow should be embarrassed. Axel's Hogan is very far off the mark as well. It's straight up garbage through and through.
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Well let us not forget that you are also somewhat certifiably retarded. No offense.

Black Machismo at least sounds like Savage. This is a mockery, and Sandow should be embarrassed. Axel's Hogan is very far off the mark as well. It's straight up garbage through and through.
Agreed. If they wanted a gimmick as a tribute to Savage they should have tried to get Jay Lethal or not done it at all. I can't believe Hogan agrees with this but the fact that he has managed to keep his mouth shut about this tells me he does agree, until the fans really get rabid.
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Thing that baffles me about this is that its not like any of this is getting over with the audience at all. Its flat and played out, and nothing screams that these guys are geeks with no personality more than the impersonation act, and thats a shame in Sandows case because he was a solid midcard heel. I think hes always had a ceiling on him, but dooming him to opening match comedy for life is weak. Even his babyface promo on Raw where he was himself exposed how the crowd didnt truly give a shit, they just laughed at the comedy.

It felt like the Mizdow turn momentum was lost weeks before Mania anyway, to be honest.
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It was all down to the way they turned him. It was meek and had no build and was very flat. On a preshow, at the wrong moment, with no heat or followup.

It could have been an intense feud with heat that built up Sandow as someone who could do it alone, but there was literally no effort put into it and it was lost on a throwaway moment.

Hate to he so negative, but it is that laziness that tipifies their booking
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Agreed. If they wanted a gimmick as a tribute to Savage they should have tried to get Jay Lethal or not done it at all. I can't believe Hogan agrees with this but the fact that he has managed to keep his mouth shut about this tells me he does agree, until the fans really get rabid.
Hogan probably pitched it so people would grow tired of Axelmania and Hulkamania returns to kill it in a warm up match to Hogans last at WM.
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Sandow is done. I don't see him ever getting past comedy relief status ever again.

They had a chance to make him something important after the breakup with Miz, but that ship has long since sailed.
Yeah, it seems that way but I think Sandow can recover with the right marketing
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