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Old 07-09-2015, 12:54 AM   #41
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yeah, my mistake, 2004!

04 to 07 was a bad time,imo
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Old 07-09-2015, 09:24 AM   #42
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I'd say 04 to 2010
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Old 07-09-2015, 08:35 PM   #43
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Hell In A Cell 2012 doesn't get nearly enough hate.

Rhodes Scholars vs Team Hell No ended in a horrible dq after The Rhodes Scholars won a tournament to get to this point. What the hell was the point of the tournament then?

Kofi Kingston vs The Miz in a "who is the blander face" match for the IC Title

Cesaro vs Justin Gabriel for the U.S belt in a random match with no build

Sheamus vs Big Show for the World Title went over 20 minutes with Big Show winning.

And worst of all: CM Punk.vs Ryback.

So Cena gets hurt and the company panics and decides to shoe horn Rybavk who hadn't had a feud outside of Jinder Mahal, into a feud for the WWE Title. Now we know Punk isn't going to lose, so let's just totally destroy Ryback's momentum for one buyrate. Fuck sakes.
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Old 07-09-2015, 10:34 PM   #44
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I don't think that was what destroyed Ryback's momentum. They got the undefeated streak stigma out of the way by keeping him looking just as strong. Even if Punk just cheated to pin him with interference or a foreign object or a pull of the tights, it would have made Ryback beatable and fucked things up. The fast count and Ryback getting up immediately looking to murder Punk and Maddox was perfect though. Still made it seem like he couldn't legitimately be stopped.

The booking of Ryback AFTER that match is some of the most retarded shit WWE has ever done.
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Old 07-09-2015, 11:04 PM   #45
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Only ever really watched WWE PPVs. Theres been a few that were really awful to me. WM9 was pretty terrible though. Was when I started realizing that Hogan was a total douche.

The In Your House where Nash and Shawn were supposed to fight Owen and Yokazuna with all the titles on the line, only to have Owen pulled at the last minute and replaced with Bulldog if I remember. Owen then interfered for some dumb reason and ended up getting pwned by Nash. Then the decision is overturned because Owen never was officially in the match or some garbage.

Speaking of In Your House shows, Great White North. Vince literally spazzed at Nash on commentary at the finish of the main event. Nash is my favorite ever, but this is honestly prob the worst match I ever saw him in and one of the worst matches ever, period.

Forget what it was called, but like 5 years ago there was a PPV where Ricardo Rodriguez ran over Big Show with Del Rios ride. That was a pretty bad card, but there were at least a couple decent matches there to save some face.

WM13, where the unlucky number 13 clearly cursed Sid causing him to lose to Taker while simultaneously shitting his pants.

Everyone already said December to Dismember, but it was def the worst ever.
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Old 07-09-2015, 11:33 PM   #46
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WrestleMania XV was useless in the sense that the only thing that really mattered in the long haul was Triple H's heel turn.
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Old 07-10-2015, 05:56 AM   #47
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Forget what it was called, but like 5 years ago there was a PPV where Ricardo Rodriguez ran over Big Show with Del Rios ride. That was a pretty bad card, but there were at least a couple decent matches there to save some face.
Over the Limit 2011?
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I don't think that was what destroyed Ryback's momentum. They got the undefeated streak stigma out of the way by keeping him looking just as strong. Even if Punk just cheated to pin him with interference or a foreign object or a pull of the tights, it would have made Ryback beatable and fucked things up. The fast count and Ryback getting up immediately looking to murder Punk and Maddox was perfect though. Still made it seem like he couldn't legitimately be stopped.

The booking of Ryback AFTER that match is some of the most retarded shit WWE has ever done.
It ruined Ryback because it booked themselves into a corner. You rarely get a one and done main event run with the champ and they weren't about to take the title off Punk, so even interference it means you're going to have a rematch and since it was pretty much set up for the Rock to win at the Rumble, they shot themselves in the foot.
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Old 07-10-2015, 01:47 PM   #49
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What ruined Ryback was the countless losses to punk after.
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Old 07-10-2015, 02:16 PM   #50
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Losing to Henry was the final nail in the coffin. He was salvageable going into that match.
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Old 07-10-2015, 02:27 PM   #51
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Losing to Henry was the final nail in the coffin. He was salvageable going into that match.
And you think he's totally ruined atm? I still think he can be revived as a big character and having him as IC champion is a step in the right direction though at this point in time I'd already have had him as WWE/WH Champion and/or RR winner.
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Old 07-10-2015, 03:16 PM   #52
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The In Your House where Nash and Shawn were supposed to fight Owen and Yokazuna with all the titles on the line, only to have Owen pulled at the last minute and replaced with Bulldog if I remember. Owen then interfered for some dumb reason and ended up getting pwned by Nash. Then the decision is overturned because Owen never was officially in the match or some garbage.
The Tripleheader Match. I was at that show.

Going off the original premise of the question, I would definitely go for this one. Nothing of note happened, since the main event result was immediately overturned the next night. Other than that, the only things even remotely worth mentioning were Ted DiBiase getting slopped and Bret getting his jacket back from Jean-Pierre Lafitte. Nothing of any importance was accomplished that night in Saginaw.

And my 13-year-old self loved every minute of it.
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A lot of the In Your House shows were entertaining but utterly inconsequential.
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Losing to Henry was the final nail in the coffin. He was salvageable going into that match.
I agree with this. I've got no clue why they put Henry over him. I guess it was because Henry had never won at WrestleMania before, but putting people over is kind of what he's at WrestleMania to do.
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I agree with this. I've got no clue why they put Henry over him. I guess it was because Henry had never won at WrestleMania before, but putting people over is kind of what he's at WrestleMania to do.
They were going to do the "Henry fakes retires only to attack Cena" the next night on raw but decided to hold off on that so Ryback could turn on Cena and start their feud on the raw after WM.
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Well that worked out well for them.
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And you think he's totally ruined atm? I still think he can be revived as a big character and having him as IC champion is a step in the right direction though at this point in time I'd already have had him as WWE/WH Champion and/or RR winner.
I was talking more in the context of the timeframe. They're doing well with him now, but they completely torpedoed his momentum for the best part of 2 years. They're doing with him now what they should have done then (strong push/Midcard title reign)
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It ruined Ryback because it booked themselves into a corner. You rarely get a one and done main event run with the champ and they weren't about to take the title off Punk, so even interference it means you're going to have a rematch and since it was pretty much set up for the Rock to win at the Rumble, they shot themselves in the foot.
I think they could have eased him away from the title picture after that match. Have him hunting Brad Maddox for a couple weeks before finally getting his hands on him and destroying him. Then he turns his attention to Heyman who was the mastermind behind it and in comes Lesnar to protect him. If you've got a Lesnar-Ryback showdown on the horizon, people are gonna quickly forget about the issue of Ryback not getting another shot at the title.
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They were going to do the "Henry fakes retires only to attack Cena" the next night on raw but decided to hold off on that so Ryback could turn on Cena and start their feud on the raw after WM.
OK. But wouldn't the "I'm retiring" thing have worked better if Henry had lost to Ryback? "I don't have it anymore, I'm stepping out of the spotlight..." Bam. As it were, Ryback lost to Henry then consequently became the #1 Contender.

The Last Man Standing ending didn't make sense either. That match should have been ruled a draw. And in retrospect, it really wouldn't have hurt to have Ryback win the WWE Title for a few weeks. Whatever.
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I still think (even though people think I am insane for it) that Ryback should have turned heel instead of feud with Punk. By getting him on their side, it would highlight that Heyman sees something to fear in Ryback, which may have made people want to see Ryback turn on Punk more and more over the coming months.
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OK. But wouldn't the "I'm retiring" thing have worked better if Henry had lost to Ryback? "I don't have it anymore, I'm stepping out of the spotlight..." Bam. As it were, Ryback lost to Henry then consequently became the #1 Contender.

The Last Man Standing ending didn't make sense either. That match should have been ruled a draw. And in retrospect, it really wouldn't have hurt to have Ryback win the WWE Title for a few weeks. Whatever.
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Didn't the whole card get changed for Unforgiven 2007 because the steroid scandal suspensions, so they had to mock up a new PPV card on a weeks build.

I think Trips was in a feud with Umaga (b&) but faced Carlito instead, John Morrison (b&) was meant to face CM Punk but Punk/Burke got thrown on, Kennedy (b&) was due to be revealed as Vince's son at the event, Rey was feuding with Chavo (b&) so got put in with Khali & Batista.
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As Savio was nice enough to mention, the show is now up, and I want to thank everybody for the suggestions in this thread, we got to a lot of them on the show, which is now available to listen to at the following direct link:

http://squaredcirclegazette.podbean....essPPVEver.mp3

Join us as we debate the Most Useless PPV in wrestling history! Taking your suggestions, we discuss shows such as King Of The Ring 95, WrestleManias 9 and 11, BattleBowl 93, ECW December To Dismember, many In Your House events, many Great American Bashes, nWo Souled Out, Battleground 2013, Heroes of Wrestling and many more, as we get to the bottom of what makes a big event truly worthless. A very fun show this week, check it out~!
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Old 07-12-2015, 08:55 AM   #66
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Great show!. Lol you could have just made the show about every WCW PPV between 1999-2001.
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I know Vince went against what Heyman wanted for the Extreme Elimination Chamber and had Sabu get taken out because he thought Sabu has a bad attitude, always showed up late and couldn't win matches unless they involved hardcore gimmicks and extremely high-risk spots. Couldn't be further from the truth.
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