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Old 10-06-2016, 11:08 AM   #761
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Well, this is an interesting one.

Dixie Carter has long been criticized for a perceived lack of knowledge in regards to the wrestling business. On Friday's episode of the Fightful.com Podcast, former TNA writer Vince Russo may have helped lend more credence to those claims.

"This is my favorite wrestling story of all time. I’ve never told this because it’s a little embarrassing to Dixie but it’s so hard not to tell because it’s so funny," Russo said. "There's somebody that I gotta protect and I’m not gonna mention his name, because he'd get all upset. It’s after a TV taping and we’re out getting dinner, and it's the the usual suspects-- Irish Pat Kenney, Terry Taylor, Al Snow, Matt Conway. I’m sitting next to somebody at the table. This somebody gets a phone call and it’s Dixie Carter."

Russo said that the unnamed person walked away from the table to talk to the TNA President and Owner Carter. Russo was then asked to talk to Dixie, and said that while they got along, the last thing he wanted to do after work was talk to his boss. When he gave in, he heard a livid Dixie on the other end.

"I’m doing the gimmick, “I’m not here. Tell her I’m not here.” The last person I want to talk to is Dixie at the end of a day. So, finally he gives me the phone and I’m like “Hey Dixie what’s up?” She is red hot, on fire. I’ve only heard Dixie this mad when she found out about Karen Angle and Jeff Jarrett," said Russo.

As it turned out, the target of Carter's frustration were WWE Hall of Famer Hulk Hogan, and longtime Executive Producer of WCW, Eric Bischoff.

"So I get on the phone," says Russo "Dixie what’s up?” [Dixie says] 'You’re not gonna believe what happened. I just went into the restaurant andHulk and Eric were having dinner and the minute I walked up to the table I heard the both of them say under their breath kayfabe, kayfabe, kayfabe. Vince who the f are they to kayfabe me? This is my f'n company! Who the f do they think they are kayfabing this boss? I can’t believe it. Screw Hulk. Screw Eric. Nobody is going to kayfabe me.'"

According to the former WCW Champion Russo, he told carter that she should have confronted the two about it right away. However, Carter had a potentially embarrassing reason for making the 2010 phone call in the first place.

"Finally I hang up the phone with her. I give the phone back to the person who got the phone call. So I said to the person, 'Bro, why did Dixie call you and not me?' Like this was a phone call that should have went directly to Vince. Why did she call you and not me? Like, what was your conversation with Dixie? Wha—what did she want to talk to you for?” You ready? The guy, who I won’t sell down the river, said to me, “She wanted to know what kayfabe meant.” Eight years in and she was throwing the term around to me like she was a 30 year veteran of the business. Of all the stories bro that’s my favorite story of all time, and I never say it because it’s kind of embarrassing but its funny embarrassing, you know what I’m saying?," said Russo.
Russo is full of it all the time, but I hope this is true.
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Old 10-06-2016, 03:12 PM   #762
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Old 10-06-2016, 03:19 PM   #763
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Old 10-06-2016, 03:24 PM   #764
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For those of you wondering how watching TNA in retrospect is any different to watching it when it airs, I point you to exhibits like "The Rocky Horror Picture Show." Something terrible can flop at the time and live on as "I can't believe this happened" greatness. Broken Matt will be much funnier in retrospect as people go "Wow, I can't believe they tried this for as long as they did."

There are also some comparatively good moments in TNA's history that are uplifted by the shit they wade through today. They've never had it completely together, but 2005 featured that Three-Way match -- I don't even need to name the participants. The Knockouts created a legitimate stir among certain circles in whatever year they emerged. That doesn't mean TNA was "always good" after those points and didn't revolt viewers into not watching. People will be watching Hogan 2010 like it was Hogan 1999.
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Old 10-06-2016, 03:25 PM   #765
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If the library is bought by WWE, I wonder what narrative (if anything) they choose to tell about the downfall of the company. John Gaburick and Dixie Carter probably have something to do with the sale if it goes through, so I don't really see the WWE shaming them. Hogan has become "less dirty" on WWE TV and their working relationship with Eric Bischoff seems to be good. The biggest target left is probably Jeff Jarrett.
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Old 10-06-2016, 04:15 PM   #766
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When an asshole NFL player won a championship:



TENAY SELLING THIS LIKE IT IS THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST

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wow, tna gets the shittiest celebrities
To be fair to the context, there was that bullshit deal where Pacman couldn't really "do" anything physical according to the NFL, so his time-biding publicity stunt to ride out his on field suspension was kinda shot in the foot.

Not saying he was going to set the world on fire, but extinuating circumstances made Adam Jones' "wrestling career" more of a shitshow than it was already destined to be.
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Old 10-06-2016, 06:48 PM   #767
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For those of you wondering how watching TNA in retrospect is any different to watching it when it airs, I point you to exhibits like "The Rocky Horror Picture Show." Something terrible can flop at the time and live on as "I can't believe this happened" greatness. Broken Matt will be much funnier in retrospect as people go "Wow, I can't believe they tried this for as long as they did."

There are also some comparatively good moments in TNA's history that are uplifted by the shit they wade through today. They've never had it completely together, but 2005 featured that Three-Way match -- I don't even need to name the participants. The Knockouts created a legitimate stir among certain circles in whatever year they emerged. That doesn't mean TNA was "always good" after those points and didn't revolt viewers into not watching. People will be watching Hogan 2010 like it was Hogan 1999.
Did you just say rocky horror was terrible? Our friendship is on thin ice chief.
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I think that makes anything he posts in the future irrelevant.
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Marshe Rockette debuted tonight. Been signed for a long time and finally debuted. Now just need Kaleb Konley to debut.
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Old 10-06-2016, 08:26 PM   #770
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Big fuck up. Was in the middle of a "Wolf Creek"Cage match between Hardy's and Decay and it went to commercial. When it came back Cody Rhodes was entering the Impact Zone. Don't know who won the cage match.
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Recent update to WWE buying TNA's tape library and confirming it was Gaburick who was sabotaging things for Corgan.

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Wow I didn't expect that. Eddie Edwards is now the TNA World Heavyweight Champion. Not sure where they are going as Cody has a title shot and I'm sure Lashley will want his rematch. Good for Eddie I guess, he's the better of the Wolves but not sure if I buy him as TNA World Heavyweight Champion though.Still mad they cut away from the Wolf Creek cage match and didn't show the winner.
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What does that mean..... they were having some sort of match and just cut to commercial or backstage or something and then just never finished the match........
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Yeah. It was a Wolf Creek cage match that was promoting a new pop show called Wolf Creek. I guess there is a movie to but never seen it. Anyway the cage had trash cans, chainsaws, grappling hooks, and other things hanging from it. Rosemary got involved and Reby went to get and the screen froze for a couple seconds and went to commercial. When it came back from commercial Cody and Brandi Rhodes are making their entrance. Never even said anything about the cage match.
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So all of this was for nothing? TNA lives? Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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Did you just say rocky horror was terrible? Our friendship is on thin ice chief.
It was terrible at the time of its release. It lives on outside itself as true camp. Just like TNA will once the library is bought from someone. I'm just forcing analogies to try and explain why TNA sucks now, but will be hilarious later.
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Old 10-08-2016, 03:50 AM   #784
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Please don't let my lack of appreciation for Rocky Horror at the time of its release get in the way of us mocking things like the Wolf Creek Cage Match.
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Old 10-08-2016, 06:39 AM   #785
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I think it might be a pretty big hurdle
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Old 10-08-2016, 07:28 AM   #786
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You were around when Rocky Horror was first released?
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Old 10-08-2016, 07:36 AM   #787
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So ignoring Noid being the Mark Madden of TPWW, us MELTZER SHEEP heard Meltzer say what I really hope are actual plans about WWE Network.

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0 : Five hours on the network archives per month, and unlimited access to the stream, but the stream will go blank whenever live ppv, cruiserweight classic (new weekly show that's planned) or NXT comes on. Butt-ton of commercials.

5 : unlimited archive use, unlimited stream, which goes blank whenever the cruiserweight classic is on. You for some bizarre reason get the big 4 ppv's (bryan noted it would make more sense to get the b-tier ppv's). This would ONLY work on tablets and phones.

....Can't wait for two days later someone to spoof the wwf app on a computer. :/

10 : current network stuff + new cruiserweight classic show + NXT live. The Meltz isn't sure if NXT is going live ever week or if it's a stream of the current tapings.

15 : indy wrestling content. Trying to get TNA obviously, plus talking to sinclair about ROH, as well as Evolve and talking to UK promotions like Progress. Some sort of live chats with wwf wrestlers too, and you get to vote in the Hall of Fame.
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Old 10-08-2016, 07:54 AM   #788
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Just when I think TNA is doing some alright stuff and Billy Corgan might have a mind for wrestling, they put the world title on Eddie Edwards. And apparently do it in the most clusterfuck of fashions. Sigh.
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Old 10-08-2016, 10:03 AM   #789
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It was terrible at the time of its release. It lives on outside itself as true camp. Just like TNA will once the library is bought from someone. I'm just forcing analogies to try and explain why TNA sucks now, but will be hilarious later.
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Dont make me turn this into a Rocky Horror appreciation thread, you know i will
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Old 10-08-2016, 10:32 AM   #790
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Just when I think TNA is doing some alright stuff and Billy Corgan might have a mind for wrestling, they put the world title on Eddie Edwards. And apparently do it in the most clusterfuck of fashions. Sigh.
I am going with this is Dixie's last real move with the company and she wanted a laugh.
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Great now I wanna see an all wrestler version of Time Warp.
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Old 10-08-2016, 01:00 PM   #792
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Just when I think TNA is doing some alright stuff and Billy Corgan might have a mind for wrestling, they put the world title on Eddie Edwards. And apparently do it in the most clusterfuck of fashions. Sigh.
I like Eddie I just don't buy him as TNA World Heavyweight Champion. Wasn't a clusterfuck though. He beat Lashley in a one on on match with the Boston Knee Party( running knee to the head) which I thought was dumb. Good for Eddie but Lashley was a legit Heavyweight Champion.
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Old 10-08-2016, 01:38 PM   #793
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Was there any build to this? Never a fan of giving away title changes on free tv. But was there at least a rise fit Edwards or was this some random out of nowhere hot shot title swap?
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Old 10-08-2016, 01:39 PM   #794
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I will say, seeing Lashley with his headband and walking around like an arrogant shit bag suits him well. Wouldn't mind him getting another shot in wwe to beef up Smackdown.
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Old 10-08-2016, 04:25 PM   #795
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Was there any build to this? Never a fan of giving away title changes on free tv. But was there at least a rise fit Edwards or was this some random out of nowhere hot shot title swap?
Eddie lost the X Division title to Lashley before Lashley threw it and the King of the Mountain title down. Eddie lost twice in the Impact Grand Championship tournament after losing to Galloway and then replacing Galloway due to injury in the final and losing to Aron Rex. Lashley got to choose who would face him on Impact for the title between EC3, Moose, and Edwards. Chose Eddie because it was the easy win.
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Also TNA has to have title changes on free TV as they only do 2PPVs a year now. They do over do it though as every title was defended this week right after a PPV. Have already given Cody Rhodes a title shot, Eli Drake has a title shot from the Bound for Gold match, and I'm sure Lashley will want a rematch.
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