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Old 11-19-2016, 10:22 PM   #201
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Old 11-19-2016, 10:22 PM   #202
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Old 11-19-2016, 10:23 PM   #203
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LOL at playing the wrong music for a second there and playing the old Joe music.
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Old 11-19-2016, 10:23 PM   #204
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Wow Joe won. Great match overall.

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Old 11-19-2016, 10:23 PM   #205
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Old 11-19-2016, 10:23 PM   #206
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Old 11-19-2016, 10:34 PM   #207
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I'm actually not convinced Joe will ever get called up or was ever meant to. It's very possible he doesn't want to tour with WWE full time.
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Old 11-19-2016, 11:02 PM   #209
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Old 11-19-2016, 11:13 PM   #210
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Old 11-20-2016, 01:49 AM   #211
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Old 11-20-2016, 01:56 AM   #212
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Old 11-20-2016, 01:57 AM   #213
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Old 11-20-2016, 01:58 AM   #214
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probably an inspiration to lot of kids on trampolines everywhere tho...kids probably doing 'pop-up powerbombs' on trampolines everywhere
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Old 11-20-2016, 12:37 PM   #215
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Already want to go watch DIY/Revival again.

I'm not normally one to say "your opinion is wrong" if you like/don't like something but holy shit - if you don't like that match you may as well just stop watching wrestling as you can't extract any joy out of it. That match had everything.
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Old 11-20-2016, 12:46 PM   #216
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Tag title match was epic

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DIY vs The Revival was MOTN for me. Unfucking real, had me with them the whole way.
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For those of you who feel that I am too cynical these days, I'd just like to submit my enjoyment of this show as evidence to the contrary. This was pro-wrestling done right.

* Bobby Roode's glorious entrance makes him such a star. He should be the current RAW World Champion; not Kevin Owens. Makes no sense for a corporation to back Kevin Owens as champion when they couldn't get behind indy dirt boy, Daniel Bryan a few years ago. Roode has got all the tools.

* Tye Dillinger is wonderful. Everyone who comes out of NXT talks about what a gem he is and now he has finally spread his wings and is the eagle he was meant to be. Soar, Dillinger, soar.

* I actually nodded off a bit during the actual Roode vs. Dillinger match, but I think that's on me. Roode actually works fucking heel! What a brilliant man! Dillinger knows how to work like a babyface too. Good stuff.

* TM61 surprised me. I've heard they've been a lot of nothing since arriving in NXT, but they showed up here. Some impressive spots and power moves from them. The Authors are pretty good for giant D'Lo Brown wannabes too. I was bummed out when The Authors won, but it makes sense. They did their job.

* DIY vs. The Revival was tremendous. Dash & Dawson are actually brilliant. Gargano & Ciampa are crisp and exciting. I'm happy for them to have this moment before dropping the belts to the AOP.

* The Women's Title match was good. It didn't try to do too much and told a story. Mickie James bumped like a fucker. The "Asuka is a cocky bitch" story is going to lead to her getting humbled by Ember Moon, which will be glorious.

* I liked the main event. Felt like a real worked match. I kind of hate Joe kicking out of the Kinshasa, but I do like him winning back the belt. Nakamura's glory was in the win, but I don't particularly want to see a prolonged reign, and this adds a little bit of tragedy to his story anyway. Plus, I've been calling Triple H vs. Nakamura at Mania for some time now. If they're going to get Nakamura on the main roster in time for Mania, they need to wrap up this storyline with Joe. It's probably to just keep spinning wheels in NXT, but I'd like to think there is some grand design behind this. I predict Joe to successfully defend at Takeover San Antonio and to then move onto Bobby Roode at Takeover Mania, who they aren't going to be able to keep the crowd away from.
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I guess we didn't have to sit through Goldberg. Had to work so I taped Takeover. Am going to watch it now.
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For those of you who feel that I am too cynical these days, I'd just like to submit my enjoyment of this show as evidence to the contrary. This was pro-wrestling done right.

* Bobby Roode's glorious entrance makes him such a star. He should be the current RAW World Champion; not Kevin Owens. Makes no sense for a corporation to back Kevin Owens as champion when they couldn't get behind indy dirt boy, Daniel Bryan a few years ago. Roode has got all the tools.

* Tye Dillinger is wonderful. Everyone who comes out of NXT talks about what a gem he is and now he has finally spread his wings and is the eagle he was meant to be. Soar, Dillinger, soar.

* I actually nodded off a bit during the actual Roode vs. Dillinger match, but I think that's on me. Roode actually works fucking heel! What a brilliant man! Dillinger knows how to work like a babyface too. Good stuff.

* TM61 surprised me. I've heard they've been a lot of nothing since arriving in NXT, but they showed up here. Some impressive spots and power moves from them. The Authors are pretty good for giant D'Lo Brown wannabes too. I was bummed out when The Authors won, but it makes sense. They did their job.

* DIY vs. The Revival was tremendous. Dash & Dawson are actually brilliant. Gargano & Ciampa are crisp and exciting. I'm happy for them to have this moment before dropping the belts to the AOP.

* The Women's Title match was good. It didn't try to do too much and told a story. Mickie James bumped like a fucker. The "Asuka is a cocky bitch" story is going to lead to her getting humbled by Ember Moon, which will be glorious.

* I liked the main event. Felt like a real worked match. I kind of hate Joe kicking out of the Kinshasa, but I do like him winning back the belt. Nakamura's glory was in the win, but I don't particularly want to see a prolonged reign, and this adds a little bit of tragedy to his story anyway. Plus, I've been calling Triple H vs. Nakamura at Mania for some time now. If they're going to get Nakamura on the main roster in time for Mania, they need to wrap up this storyline with Joe. It's probably to just keep spinning wheels in NXT, but I'd like to think there is some grand design behind this. I predict Joe to successfully defend at Takeover San Antonio and to then move onto Bobby Roode at Takeover Mania, who they aren't going to be able to keep the crowd away from.
Obviously Nak will be called up at some point, but I never got how you figure Nak vs HHH makes any sense. HHH is the babyface on screen "owner" of NXT. Nak is the most over babyface in the company. Why would the two fight? Just for fun? If anything I could see at some point HHH start to assemble a stable of NXT guys to battle RAW (Steph) and SDL (Shane).
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You could run an angle where Shinsuke wants to move up, but Triple H wants to keep Nakamura for "his brand", and build the animosity between them from there.
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I'll respond to you, Fignuts:

You don't need to make it complicated. The WWE loves their "fantasy warefare" buzz word right now. It's The King of the Kings vs. The King of Strong Style. But if you absolutely must have a feud going, you can have Nakamura outshine Triple H at an NXT conference, or you can have Nakamura finally get given his main roster contract signing only for the segment to end with a kick, wham, Pedigree. "You're opponenet is going to be...me."

Nakamura could refuse to join The Authority or says something that is perceived as out-of-line by Stephanie McMahon or Kevin Owens. Nakamura could toss Triple H from the Royal Rumble. Aurora-Rose's favorite wrestler could be Shinsuke Nakamura. It doesn't need to be super-complicated. It's pro-wrestling -- you book that shit.
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You don't need to make it complicated. The WWE loves their "fantasy warefare" buzz word right now. It's The King of the Kings vs. The King of Strong Style. But if you absolutely must have a feud going, you can have Nakamura outshine Triple H at an NXT conference, or you can have Nakamura finally get given his main roster contract signing only for the segment to end with a kick, wham, Pedigree. "You're opponenet is going to be...me."

Nakamura could refuse to join The Authority or says something that is perceived as out-of-line by Stephanie McMahon or Kevin Owens. Nakamura could toss Triple H from the Royal Rumble. Aurora-Rose's favorite wrestler could be Shinsuke Nakamura. It doesn't need to be super-complicated. It's pro-wrestling -- you book that shit.
Just seems like a compete 180 on what is presented on TV and on social.

I mean sure they could do anything to get to HHH vs Nak, but it seems about 2-3 years premature.
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Old 11-21-2016, 03:26 PM   #225
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Triple H is 47 years old. I don't doubt that he can stay in excellent shape as he only needs to wrestle a few times a year, but everybody has a point where they realize they just can't go like they used to and eventually even Trips will get to that point I'm sure.

For that matter, Nakamura will be 37 by next WrestleMania, has a ton of mileage on him working a hard hitting style in Japan and will eventually be on the main roster with a WWE schedule that's even more strenuous.

I just think if that's a program they want to run it would be a good idea to try to figure out a way to get to it in the next year or so.
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Triple H is 47 years old. I don't doubt that he can stay in excellent shape as he only needs to wrestle a few times a year, but everybody has a point where they realize they just can't go like they used to and eventually even Trips will get to that point I'm sure.

For that matter, Nakamura will be 37 by next WrestleMania, has a ton of mileage on him working a hard hitting style in Japan and will eventually be on the main roster with a WWE schedule that's even more strenuous.

I just think if that's a program they want to run it would be a good idea to try to figure out a way to get to it in the next year or so.
Even in 2018 it would make more sense than this year. I'm guessing at the earliest Nak is on the main roster is January. You have to introduce him, ensure people pop for him like they do in NXT, ensure the top guys are willing to work his style, and then have HHH somehow stab him in the back. I guess they could do a respect thing, like Nak comes in and says he wants to test himself against the best, and calls out HHH.

I think better use would be debut Nak at Mania and have him beat one of the secondary champions (IC or US). Then you do a build to the world title for the next year's Mania. Assuming he gets over.
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Old 11-22-2016, 09:22 PM   #228
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Well, No Revival on Raw or Smackdown. Why did they drop the titles to team ICW then?
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Old 11-22-2016, 09:26 PM   #229
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Because it was a good moment, a good match, DIY is a good team, and it was a good title change?
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Old 11-22-2016, 09:55 PM   #230
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Yeah STD. Shut up. DIY are tight, and they had been chasing for months.
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The Revival will be main roster soon enough. Just give it time. Man, what I wouldn't give for the WWE to make up with Jim Cornette to bring him back as their manager. You know, he probably would do it for a Midnight Express Hall of Fame induction and to help out those guys in the tag division.
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Realistically speaking though, I'd settle for Arn Anderson as a mouthpiece for the two.
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Old 11-23-2016, 07:45 AM   #233
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American Alpha needs to win the Smackdown titles before Revival get called to the main roster....Easy feud to book.
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The Revival will be main roster soon enough. Just give it time. Man, what I wouldn't give for the WWE to make up with Jim Cornette to bring him back as their manager. You know, he probably would do it for a Midnight Express Hall of Fame induction and to help out those guys in the tag division.
Why would you want to ruin them with an anchor like Cornette?
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Realistically speaking though, I'd settle for Arn Anderson as a mouthpiece for the two.
I'm on this wavelength. Tbf, they're decent talkers themselves, it'd be great for their credibility though.
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Dawson's one of the most improved guys in the entirety of NXT. He's come miles from having Generic Redneck Hick Gimmick #3752.
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Yup. It's kind of amazing how quickly him and Dash just clicked too. They just seem to know each others waveength so well.
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Why would you want to ruin them with an anchor like Cornette?
Lol, Cornette is like in the top five managers in history, and up there with greatest talkers. You're insane.
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American Alpha needs to win the Smackdown titles before Revival get called to the main roster....Easy feud to book.
Even better would be if they unified the rosters, smashed the belts together and had Alpha win the belts from Chris Jericho & Kevin Owens.
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