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Old 12-05-2016, 11:12 PM   #361
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Not sure if its a wise idea for an unconscious Sasha to be given as a trophy to Ric.
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Old 12-05-2016, 11:13 PM   #363
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Someone on NeoGaf's wrestling thread showed a gif of the male version of Bayley's finisher and it looks a lot better when done from an Irish whip.
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Old 12-06-2016, 12:20 AM   #368
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Wouldn't be the first time something like that happened in the WWE.
Roman's half Brother, Luther. He's had Peas before!
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That will be the last Raw they can be de-throned. They got 10 days baybee!
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So new day loses the titles next Monday without ever being pinned for them...how original.
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Someone on NeoGaf's wrestling thread showed a gif of the male version of Bayley's finisher and it looks a lot better when done from an Irish whip.
She did it great on Survivor Series. It's mainly her move cause of the name. 20000 people went to their feet for it in Brooklyn when she won by the way. So, who gives a fuck if it's a generic move. Big Boot and Legdrop are generic as fuck.
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Old 12-06-2016, 02:02 AM   #373
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Seph vs. STD BLOODFEUD?!

Also, I'd kinda love to see New Day © v. Cesaro/Sheamus v. Gallows/Anderson next Monday. New Day act all kinds of cocky, believing their destiny is in the bag, but dropping the belts to one of the challengers in the main event.

I mean, I get they're kinda gradually turning heel, but I've kinda been secretly hoping someone takes them down a peg for a long, long time, and how sweet it would be if they were robbed of tying Demolition by less than an hour.
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So new day loses the titles next Monday without ever being pinned for them...how original.
They get pinned in half of their non title matches so there's that.
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Old 12-06-2016, 10:46 AM   #378
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I really can't stand this "cruiserweight division" bollocks any more. The ring colours, the hand shaking, the fact that the CW's only seem to wrestle other CW's exclusively.

Feels a lot like the Women's division as well. Other than whichever flavour of the month has the title and is chasing the title, nobody else matters and is just booked in random matches that mean nothing.

I wanna see them stop this "legit sport" feel of shaking hands etc, and integrate the division into the rest of the roster. Perhaps have a big, bully type character (I have Baron Corbin in mind, but he's on Smackdown) come out one night and destroy the guys in the ring, citing that he's fed up with these little guys getting the spotlight or some nonsense. Then having that leading to a legit storyline that'll get the division more intertwined with the roster.
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Old 12-06-2016, 10:56 AM   #379
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I don't want to see that at all. I don't want to watch all of Raw for their segments and I'm happy they have their own show, mostly because I can't stand this Raw bollocks anymore.

Having it on Raw now they do have their own show is dumb though. It's just an abrupt thing to change the ring and then shift the tone.
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Old 12-06-2016, 11:23 AM   #380
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I think the cruiserweights aren't treated as part of the regular roster because they're not supposed to be part of the regular roster. At Survivor Series they did a match in which the entire division would've changed shows - so the division is meant to be a package deal I think.
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Old 12-06-2016, 11:41 AM   #381
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Charlotte has a lot of heat on her, the best way to get her over now is to next week have Stephanie emasculate her.
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• "Previously on Raw"

What?

• Did anyone else notice the Curtis Axel "AxelMania" and Sgt. Slaughter graphics during Rollins' entrance? They only appeared for less than half a second but I managed to capture them.



What's all that about?

Anyway, so Rollins just randomly decides that he wants revenge on Triple H, around three and a half months after Triple H screwed him over?

I was actually happy to see the Big Show back. The guy looks in great shape and he actually showed how fat Kevin Owens really is, when he struggled to lift him over the ropes for a Chokeslam.

When The Big Show, of all people, struggles to lift you up, you know you're fat.

• This is my introduction to Jack Gallagher and I'm not a fan. I find him really annoying and just a really really really poor man's William Regal from back in the day. He makes me think that he would be the result if you crossed William Regal with The Vaudevillains.

He's quite annoying and strange. Annoying in that after pretty much every move he adjusts his hair and strange for the fact that X-Pac was one of his favourite wrestlers. I think he's the only person I've ever heard of who lists X-Pac as their favourite wrestler.

Oh, and he also looks and sounds like some kind of child sex predator, but I know that's not his fault.

Daivari on the other hand. I like him but it's quite obvious that the guys in the back don't, seeing as he's never won a match in the WWE.

I think the Cruiserweights should just stick to 205 Live. Make them exclusive to it and free up some time on Raw for more matches for lower-card guys. For example, where have Curtis Axel, Bo Dallas, Primo & Epico, Jinder Mahal, Neville and Sin Cara disappeared to? Axel & Dallas were starting something and it suddenly stopped with a Bo Dallas victory. Mahal had a new gimmick and then he went AWOL and Primo & Epico defeated a hot tag team and were on PPV and now they've vanished.

If the Cruiserweights were exclusive to 205 Live, the free time on Raw could be used to showcase matches and build up angles with lower-card guys, with one of them possibly striking a cord with the fans and gaining some popularity and then go somewhere with it.

Instead, we get long-ass backstage segments and vignettes while the ring crew set up the Cruiserweight ring, which is then host to toned-down Cruiserweights who have matches in front of crowds who clearly don't give a fuck. If you want to watch Cruiserweights, then watch the Cruiserweight show.

Makes sense to me anyway.

• Lady backstage with Titus was intriguing.

• Sasha Banks is horrible on the mic. It didn't really help her much that she sounded like she has a cold.

So we have yet another Charlotte/Banks match. Oh goody.



But seriously, this is never going to end, isn't it?

I can't really say I'm surprised though as I was actually expecting another match and I'm also expecting Charlotte to win the title back.

• Is Rich Swann's "thing" that his parents are dead? It seems to always get mentioned when he's on screen.

Are we suppose to get behind him and like him because he smiles and dances even though his parents are dead?

It feels like that's the message they're sending out.

• Alicia loses again.

Hopefully though this starts a little feud with Bayley. Fox won't come out victorious, but at least we'd get to see more matches from her.

• Jericho really should have won the title. Jericho as US Champion sounds so good and could be really interesting and entertaining.

It was a good match though. I'd say it was the best match of the night. Jericho being great as always.

• I'm pretty sure we all saw the ambush coming, back when Lana told Enzo to show up at her hotel room.

Still, the segment was actually really good and I'd say it's probably the best I've see from Enzo so far. He played the part of getting mauled so well that it had me glued and it actually looked like a 100% legit savage attack which left me feeling sorry for Enzo.

Also, Lana.



Rusev is a very lucky man.

• So next week we'll see a triple threat tag team match for the titles. I'm guessing this will go one of two ways.

1. New Day lose the titles without being involved in the ending.

2. New Day retain the titles and that's their big "huzzah!" for breaking the record.

If New Day do lose the titles but weren't involved in the ending, I can see them winning the titles right back at Roadblock and then possibly continuing on where they left off.

• Judging by the crowd, nobody gave a fuck about the Charlotte/Ric/Sasha segment. There were a lot of empty seats and hardly any noise.

• Overall, Raw was Raw.

It had its moments this week, but still, meh.
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"Lana! Why are you and Enzo half naked in our hotel room with a camera and audio crew?"
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The WWE keeps putting Rusev in this weird fucking storylines where nobody looks good, and Rusev actually looks a little sympathetic. What's the end game here? Rusev vs. Enzo in some sort of stipulation match at Roadblock? If Cass stands up for Enzo, it's not going to make anyone look good.

I agree that 205 Live needs to be the exclusive home of the cruiserweights. The short match between Gallagher and Daivari did nobody any favors, especially considering how effective the one on 205 Live was.

Chris Jericho as US Champion would be great. Roman Reigns as US Champion is fine, by the way, but if they're going to put Reigns back in the main event program, you might as well take the US Title off him.
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Rusev will put Cass over and basically killing any credibility of Enzo.
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Enzo isn't really supposed to have much credibility.

The whole dynamic of the team is that Enzo talks a lot of smack, but then gets viscously beat down in the ring until Big Cass makes the save.
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Yeah, think the bigger concern is Rusev's credibility over Enzo's.
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Enzo Amore, given how well he can talk if given free reign, should be a higher priority of the company. The dude could have very easily been built as the top contender for the Cruiserweight Championship if it were still held by Brian Kendrick.
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Was gonna say, Noid, that Enzo and Cass staying together with each dominating or chasing different lower card titles would keep them fresh and give them something important to do.

If Rusev was still US champ you could have Cass chasing with Enzo in his corner, while Enzo chased after cruiserweight title.

Enzo cutting promos on Kendrick would also give someone different for Kendrick to play off of. But alas
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Enzo and Cass should stay together. Cass is not ready to go solo but he has the ability to become a main event star. Enzo has the ability to be a mid card talent, but a very entertaining talent none the less. Enzo could easily survive without Cass but Cass would get lost without Enzo at the moment.

Enzo needs to stop being a complete bitch though so Cass can make the save like a big brother.
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Enzo & Cass remind of the Dudley Boyz. They're fun for a few weeks but then they get insanely stale. I think they're hurt a bit by existing at a time where you have teams like American Alpha, #DIY and The Revival in the canon. They just cannot keep up in the ring. Wouldn't mind seeing both move to SmackDown and allowing them to go over The Ascension, Vaudevillains, Fashion Police and Usos though. It just doesn't feel...exciting.
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