08-10-2011, 10:39 AM | #41 |
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The latest episode is the "quickest" I remember a 41-42 minute show passing by because I was "engrossed". When Mike and Jessie are driving down the road and the show ends, I was amazed/disappointed that there wasn't another 10-15 minutes left.
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08-10-2011, 10:08 PM | #42 |
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Let's not forget that the Mexican Cartel is still lurking. I could actually see Skyler making some kind of deal with them down the line to take out Gus in exchange for them sparing her family or something.
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08-10-2011, 10:12 PM | #43 |
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Like you said before, this is the perfect show to watch in one big block. Just spend a weekend laid back drinking, smoking out and ordering food. Problem is, it's too good to not watch week to week.
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08-11-2011, 09:41 PM | #44 |
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Finally got to watch the most recent episode... pretty unbelievable stuff. First of all, I knew Mike was a bad ass, but this last episode really pushed that to the limit. Mike is not to be fucked with.
I really like what they're doing with Skylar. It makes you wonder how well Walt really knew her after all. I mean, if she's this willing to go this far, why the hell didn't he tell her about this whole operation a long time ago? She's the perfect partner for him. I guess it just plays into his whole thing about not wanting help from anyone. The end is probably the best cliffhanger BB has had since Walt and Jesse found themselves in a car with Tuco at the end of Season 1. I can't wait to find out where this goes. I can't believe Jesse is going to die, as, like someone else said, he JUST won an Emmy and they're not going to get rid of his character in the 5th episode of the new season. There's also no way he's killing Mike - another extremely important and engaging character to the story. The ending reminds me of Mike's story about when he was a cop from "Half Measures." He takes this guy out into the middle of nowhere and threatens him with his life to stop beating up on his girlfriend, but then the guy killed her the following week anyways. At that point Mike decided no more half measures. Is it possible that Mike is going to threaten Jesse in a similar fashion? The fact that Jesse clearly doesn't care anymore - about his money, about his job or about his life - is obvious to everyone, including Mike, so he can't really think that threatening to kill Jesse will do anything. I think they could take it another direction and maybe Mike threatens to hurt Jesse's family, his little brother or his parents, if he keeps fucking up. If you can't get to the kid's mind, maybe Mike can get to his heart. I love this fucking show. |
08-11-2011, 10:16 PM | #45 |
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I wonder if Mike won't just sit down and have a serious talk about what Jessie did. Maybe he realizes he's never killed anyone like that. Who knows what Mike was like earlier in his life.. he couldn't have always been this cold blooded. Maybe he's just taking him out to show him something important.
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08-12-2011, 08:46 AM | #46 |
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Yeah, Mike is not a monster. Seems like an ex-cop or ex-military who is just used to violence. I don't know if I see Skyler saving Walt from Gus. She knows he cooks meth but doesn't know about a lot of things. She seems pretty clean compared to Walt, like she doesn't yet "get" it. In that regard I wouldn't think she's in a position to save him, but who knows.
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08-13-2011, 10:49 AM | #48 |
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Love the show, hate the wife.
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08-13-2011, 12:59 PM | #49 |
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08-15-2011, 04:33 AM | #50 |
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would watch a whole show about Mike
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08-15-2011, 01:06 PM | #51 |
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just been renewed for a 16 episode final season
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08-15-2011, 02:09 PM | #52 |
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Was Skyler still sleeping with Ted before she asked Walt to move back in? I remember the scene in the bed room where Walt asked about the smell of the sheets and she said it was a new fabric softener and then he seemed to lose it after seeing the Beneke coffee cup. |
08-15-2011, 10:05 PM | #53 |
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While I'm sad that there's only going to be one more, I do like the fact that, like "The Wire", they have a plan for where the show is going and how it's going to end. It's not going to be some bullshit situation where they invent new storylines just to keep the show going for ratings (I'm looking at you, "LOST").
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08-15-2011, 10:09 PM | #54 |
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LOST had an ending planned from the start, what are you talking about? I'm sure there were stories in there that they didn't intend from the start, and they had to change details as they went because of casting issues, or stories simply not able to be panned out as they planned, but the show had a direction from the start. If anything, they only suffered because of a badly timed writer's strike.
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08-15-2011, 10:12 PM | #55 |
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Also, I'll be sad to see this show end, but I hope that knowing its ending point allows them to fill the final season with epicness.
My only question - will Walt die of cancer, be killed by his decisions, or go to prison? Those finishes will either justify his actions, or vilify him. |
08-15-2011, 10:48 PM | #56 |
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He'll be executed
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08-15-2011, 11:29 PM | #57 |
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It is my opinion that the end of the series pretty much has to have Walt dying in some way.
Jesse lives on. |
08-16-2011, 05:54 AM | #58 | |
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I'm just saying that I'm glad Breaking Bad isn't going to suffer the same fate. |
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08-16-2011, 05:57 AM | #59 | |
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I think it'd be the best way to end the series. It would really push the point that no matter what, "breaking bad" is not the way to get ahead in life, and that Walter's real problems have always been his massive ego. |
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I can't help but feel like between now and the end of the series a major character close to Walt like Skyler or his son is going to end up killed and that is going to be the beginning of the end for one side or the other. |
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08-16-2011, 02:48 PM | #62 | |
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Also, what RoXer said. Have you ever actually read, in detail, the LOST wiki? There is such an absurd amount of detail (and yes, SOME unanswered questions, which are completely unimportant in the grand scheme of things). But the amount of questions that were answered, or things that were purposely left to speculate on, are in the hundreds, if not thousands. This show could not have finished in 3 seasons. Guarantee it, so I do not believe wherever you supposedly 'heard' that from, as this is literally the first time I ever heard that it was supposed to be 3 seasons, and I spent countless hours upon hours reading into this show. Some 'person' telling you this or whatever, does not evidence make. Sounds to me like you are simply disappointed with its ending, and thus think a large portion of the content was filler. But from the perspective of someone who very much loved the ending, (it grew on me, as I was left a bit underwhelmed at first), I see that the content of this show had every bit of a purpose. Probably the only characters that were developed with no payoff, were Walt, whom simply aged and the writers were unable to tie up properly. (He still had a major role in the story) And then those 2 diamond schmucks, whom the audience hated so much that the writers simply wrote them out. There was also an issue with Anna Lucia's character because she got in trouble off-set, so they had to write her out as well IIRC. You say filler episodes, and I'm sure there were a couple.. but there was never a single episode that didn't tie in in some way to what was going on. Something that happened, was meant to make you think/ponder and tie it to the events. Seriously, browse the LOST wiki, or simply watch this show again from a new perspective. I have seen all the episodes about 3 times now, and while it wasn't the perfect show, it was incredible, and there will never be anything like it again, and that saddens me. |
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08-16-2011, 02:52 PM | #63 |
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Also, every single one of the MAIN characters, were tied up beautifully. Some of the 'side' characters didn't serve a role in the ending, but they served their purpose during the life of the show. But ALL of the main characters' stories were tied up at the end.
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08-16-2011, 06:53 PM | #64 |
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RoXer and Requiem are to LOST like Kalyx is to fighting games. Don't get them started
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08-17-2011, 03:44 AM | #65 |
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I would like to see Mr. White run down Matthew Fox in his Aztek.
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08-17-2011, 12:03 PM | #66 |
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Only just started watching this. Just finished season 2.
I'm happy to see Roxer and Req defending Lost also. |
08-22-2011, 03:00 AM | #67 |
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GOD Skyler is a cunt.
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08-22-2011, 03:02 AM | #68 |
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Spoiler alert, Jimmy.
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08-22-2011, 03:40 AM | #69 |
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08-22-2011, 11:21 AM | #70 |
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She really is a dumb bitch.
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08-22-2011, 06:49 PM | #72 |
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She finds out her unemployed, cancer stricken husband is cooking meth so his family has enough money to survive when he dies and reacts by fucking her boss and kicking him out of his own house.
Granted, Walt's recent actions were a bit off but I think that goes to further the storyline of him losing it. |
08-22-2011, 07:02 PM | #74 |
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Feel like you are watching a different show or something. Like, in no way have they made Walt out to be a hero, IMO. He started as a cancer stricken man doing this to provide for his family, but he has gone way beyond that. He is addicted to who he has become.
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08-22-2011, 07:51 PM | #75 |
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He has certainly taken a darker turn the past season and a half, but initially Walt was compelled to start cooking because of his dire circumstances and desire to support his family. He wasn't splurging on himself and tried to keep his cooking a secret early on. He didn't want notoriety or glory. The incident with Tuco ruined that. His actions are not heroic, but it is understandable from his perspective.
I'm just saying that you would think as his wife, Skyler would be more understanding considering the circumstances that led him to doing what he has and not react to the extent she has at times. SPOILER: show |
08-22-2011, 08:14 PM | #77 |
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Like, he feels his choices are justified. He told their son that he stands by his decisions and that it wasn't an addiction. But I think that's because he doesn't want to admit it to himself.
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08-22-2011, 08:16 PM | #78 |
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Really love this show. Don't think there's many shows on the air still that make you really think about the deeper impact and reasoning behind decisions that a character has made. The writers are fantastic. And he is a great actor to be able to create this kind of debate. Walt is just a really complicated character.
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08-22-2011, 09:45 PM | #79 | |
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08-22-2011, 11:48 PM | #80 |
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I must agree with Req though. From very early on in the series I think it has been shown that Walt enjoys "breaking bad" and is addicted to it.
I think the real interesting thing over the course of the show is Walt's descent into darkness, and his relationship with Jesse. Jesse is nowhere near Walt's level. It almost seemed like at several points in the series that Jesse could have potentially have gone out of the business... but he is always pulled back in to it by Walt, and finds himself being dragged down by Walt ever further. I mean, pretty much everything bad that has happened to Jesse, or his friends, has been because of Walt's greed for more money/power/respect. Culminating of course with Walt digging himself in such a hole that Jesse has to kill Gale for him. Which seems to have set Jesse off the the hinge. |