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05-07-2007, 10:22 PM | #162 | |
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But still, that final sigght scene was all sorts of awesome. The other problem is that Spider-Man shouldn't fight two guys you need strategy to beat in one movie. Both Venom and Sandman are guys he can't just pummel. Even Doc Ock requires mostly muscle, timing, and ass-kickery. Ideally, I'd like to see Spider-Man face a guy he can just beat the shit out of, and a guy who he'd have to outsmart. If he fights a duo at all. Ideally. It's a minor gripe,. like most of my gripes with this movie. I do really wonder if Venom's gone...Just a little, but for the same reason he was probably filler. Raimi really seems to hate him. Let me axe y'all a question: Would anyone really feel bad if Venom wasn't in the movies at all? I would have been happy with the Sinister Six, which is what's been hinted at. |
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05-07-2007, 10:28 PM | #163 | |
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05-07-2007, 11:38 PM | #164 |
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"Cultural Phenomenon" is taking it a bit far...
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05-07-2007, 11:45 PM | #165 |
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Well its official, E! said today on both the Daily Ten and E! News Live that theyre making FOUR new spiderman movies. The cast isnt for sure, but they were all interviewed saying how much they'd love to do it if they all stayed together.
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05-07-2007, 11:49 PM | #166 | |
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P.S, it just brought in 148 million dollars in a weekend. Spiderman was always legendary and destined to be a huge hit and a big success when crossing over into live action, but the way it has been executed has made it not just a comic book movie, but a theater event and something for everyone. Kids, adults, boys, girls, men, women, nerds, jocks and everyone is into it. It came out at a time post-911 when the feel good hero thing was wanted badly. That's why it suprisingly broke records and was being talked about everywhere. 2 movies and 5 years later it's doing the same thing. It's just as big, probably bigger, than Superman was in 1978. And Superman was and is a cultural phenomenon Last edited by Jeritron; 05-07-2007 at 11:53 PM. |
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05-07-2007, 11:55 PM | #167 |
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That's why Christopher Reeves was headline news through the 90s after having done nothing but play Superman. Because something bad happened to him that happens to others everyday, but he was part of a cultural phenomenon and people still cared 20 years later. Even with a smaller impact and pop culture sensation, and no good sequels.
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05-08-2007, 01:47 AM | #168 |
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Superman II is superior to 1.
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05-08-2007, 05:11 AM | #169 |
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Saw Spiderman 3 yesterday. I enjoyed it, girlfriend said it was a bit long and too much happening but, y'know, girls.
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05-08-2007, 07:32 AM | #170 |
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I liked it more than the other two (and I thought they sucked). But I was only just aware of Venom (Eric Foreman ) and I'd never heard of Sandman (They cast Ned from Ned and Stacey ), so I didn't notice all the characters/storyline inaccuracies. But all in all the fanboy shit aside (which I'm not) for a big dumb movie it was pretty good.
Except Kirstin Dunst who is truly terrible, I wonder how she ever even got work in commercials. |
05-08-2007, 08:45 AM | #171 |
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Just got back from seeing this. I enjoyed it just as much as the other two. Despite the obvious gripes (yes, there were a lot of storylines, we get it - but at the time the movie was being written/made, they weren't even sure there'd be a fourth movie, so I guess they wanted to try and deliver what they could while they could), I think it was actually a pretty good film, overall. Script wasn't as awful as everyone made out, and overall it wasn't as contrived as I had been led to believe. I think both villains were excellent but both got screwed a bit by the other's presence... that is, without one of them, more time could have been spent developing their storylines and making their characters more deeply tied to the story. Given what they had though, I thought Thomas Haden Church did a great job at making Marko a sympathetic character and Topher Grace really wasn't bad at all. Thought he played a good Brock.
J. Jonah Jameson was brilliant and underused as always. I like the fact they've slowly built up Connors' character, too. It will make his transformation into The Lizard more emotionally momentous. I hope the same for Harvey Dent in Batman 3 (or the end of 2, or whatever). Anyway. Long story short (kinda), I enjoyed it. |
05-08-2007, 09:47 AM | #172 |
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Watched it last night. It was good. I'd say better than the first two, although I've liked them all. Sandman was played well. Liked his character.
Um... my kids and wife were a bit confused by Brock and Harry. They kept getting those two mixed up. MAybe they should have found people that didn't have so many similar characteristics. At least that's what they say. Not sure if other casual fans had this same point of view. |
05-08-2007, 10:15 AM | #173 | |
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It's not even denying it. It's being level headed. Prudent, even. Like, you'll probably missing this too, because that's what TPWW does. I'm not saying that it won't be a classic in the future. But dubbing it one now is inane, because other blockbusters have gotten similar attention. Cultural phenomenon? Yeah. That one I'll argue, but there's nothing to deny. Just something you've made up yourself. |
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05-08-2007, 10:37 AM | #174 |
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It was ok. Just like all of them. Hoping for a Doc Oc return.
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05-08-2007, 10:45 AM | #175 |
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Doc Ock isn't dead.
Raimi told me himself. |
05-08-2007, 03:25 PM | #176 |
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There was a 'Doc Oc still at large poster' behind JJ Jameson in one of the scenes. *hope*
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05-08-2007, 03:39 PM | #177 |
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Weren't several of those pictures headlines from the previous movies though? Not to dash your hopes or anything....
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05-08-2007, 06:16 PM | #178 | |
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Being that mysterio's powers deal with illusion, I think he could be the most impressive of them all, as you literaly have no boundries as to what you can do. |
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05-08-2007, 09:26 PM | #179 |
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A few things that kept me and my father form enjoying this film:
With the excetpion of the very begining the Costume isn't worm for the first 35 minutes of the film. I've waited two years to see Spider-Man, I'm ready to see Spider-Man. Come on. When we finnally get the costume on: Why does the mask have to come off every five minutes? I mean seriously, once it gets time FINALLY see Spidy they make me see Tobey YET AGIAN. I'm so tired of his face. The only excuse I can find is that he's a terrible actor and needs "full range" to express something. Which doesn't say much about him. Venom was rushed and unentertaining. (ALSO WHY DID HIS MASK HAVE TO COME OFF ALL THE TIME?) Same with Harry. WHAT THE GAY. It's a Superhero movie, mask are apart of it...Batman keeps his mask on... Spider-man dances...grrrrr Not enough of Spidy having to get sidetracked to save randoms...it's one of my favorite parts of the charecter. Think of the train sequence in two or the bus in one. Great scenes. Ultimately these aren't huge, but they did keep me from enjoying myself. I need the masks, I want to see super heros in spandex no matter what that X-Men flick says. |
05-08-2007, 09:52 PM | #180 | |
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I was nonplussed by Sandman, but more because he always seemed to be a B-character. I would have rather seen many other characters. And while I like Venom, I wouldn't shed a tear if there was no Venom. |
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05-08-2007, 10:56 PM | #181 |
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Saw it tonight. Better than 1, not as good as 2, but still a fine film. Notes:
-It was bloated. Way too much stuff with MJ and Peter's relationship, not enough Sandy and Venom. -I really hate Kirsten Dunst. If there are more movies, I hope MJ is recast. Wouldn't mind seeing Maguire back as Spidey, but if he is recast, like KK mentioned, I'd love to see Milo Ventimiglia (Peter from Heroes) step in. -Bruce Campbell>>>you. Give him a bigger role in the next one. If he plays Mysterio like rumoured I will mark out. -I got a huge kick out of the way Sandman's locket was always alright. Even after he was broken down to a molecular level, that locket survived. -Sandman was good. Church's performance was good. I wanted more of it. I really hated the retconning of making him Uncle Ben's killer tho. It made no sense the way Venom recruits him to help kill Spidey, and then Sandman's just like "I didn't want this". Come on. -I was a big fan of Venom, both Grace's performance and the appearance. He better not be dead. I wouldn't be surprised if he was tho, given Raimi's disdain for him. -James Franco may have given the best performance in the film. But his face turn telegraphed his death wayyyyyyy too much. -Y'know, if that butler had just told Harry about his dad a little earlier, he would have saved a lot of people a lot of grief. -Peter being a "badass" was just cringe inducing. Especially the jazz bar scene. I thought the symbiote increased aggression, not turned you into a huge moron. -More Jameson -Peter kissing Gwen like that was just dumb. Why would he be stupid enough to do that, in that way, in front of MJ. Just bad. -Like I mentioned earlier, the villains just deserved more time. Probably my biggest gripe. |
05-08-2007, 11:40 PM | #182 |
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Guys, guys, guys. Nerd+Agression=Agressive nerd.
Be thankful that they didn't have him making 7 of 9 fakes and posting spoilers to recent films. |
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05-09-2007, 12:11 AM | #184 |
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I posted this on another forum a few days ago, seems everyone here is pretty much in agreement with me
What they should of done.... Movie starts out as normal, symbiote attaches itself to Peter as soon as he finds out Marko killed uncle Ben. Next fight scene between them proceeds as normal. Cut out all the filler after that point (The dancing and the jazz bar scene). Harry and the symbiote spidey throw down, but Harry runs off, scared of Peter's new power, he goes back into his gas chamber and pumps himself up even more. Sandman returns, and Harry finds him and they form a plan to team up and take on Spidey, it should of been Spidey vs Sandman and GG at that point. Symbiote Spidey beats Harry down again and blows his face off, then he KILLS the Sandman, or atleast seemingly kills off the Sandman . Afterwards, he realizes what he is becomming and seperates himself from the symbiote, it falls onto Brock, creates Venom. Peter and MJ reconcile and have their little dance in the club, as the view shifts to the side of the street and you see Brock peering into the cafe, then he smiles and you see his razor sharp teeth and he laughs. THE END. You finish off the Sandman story arc, GG is still alive, and you set yourself up for Spidey 4 with Venom. This would of cut the movie down to around the 1hour 45min mark, which would of been much better IMHO. There was FAR too much filler in this movie. __________________ |
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05-09-2007, 08:56 AM | #186 |
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I doubt both Osbournes are dead.
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He may be more confident / aggressive but he's still a real big nerd. A nerds idea of how to be "the man" is pretty well covered in Peter's stoopid strut and his finger pointing pulling technique. |
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Still I agree that the film is ver bloated. Especially if you go to an 11:15pm showing that gets delayed half an hour!! |
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05-09-2007, 12:17 PM | #189 |
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Oh and my opinion on the film is...
It was better than X3. Whether that means it was a better film or less dissapointing I ain't worked out yet. |
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05-10-2007, 04:45 AM | #191 |
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Saw it opening day but I thought I'd give my thoughts on it. It was good, though I don't know what all the complaints are about. It's like people until now saw that the Spidey films have, you know, FLAWS. Sure, the other two had flaws too but it seems like it's new to people that this one does.
Despite all that, I dug it. Only complaints: too much going on and Kirsten. And I said since the beginning that people would complain about Venom, no matter what. I thought they did good on him, but people don't get it's based off of comic books and that this was probably the last flick for all involved. Things have to be rushed and hinted in case of a future and in this case, Venom is not dead. Oh, and X3 still sucks. So yeah. Sorry, but all this reaction to it is just odd and upsetting. Just had to say it. |
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That crazy butler does alot of things and also keeps a lot of things to himself as well. Doc Oct was never seen actually dying either, he was seen in water, who's to say the arms didn't come back to life and get him out of the lake before he drown in there? Next film should be The Lizard though, and I keep hearing loads of people wanting Kraven the Hunter. One idea I head was heard was having loads of animal related villians (Vulture, Lizard, Ryhno, Scorpion) And Kraven was hunting them all to kill, but Spidy was trying to stop him and save the Villians so they can face justice. That could be good |
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05-10-2007, 05:37 AM | #193 |
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Kraven is immense
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05-10-2007, 07:10 AM | #194 |
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05-10-2007, 10:11 AM | #195 | |
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I don't think I'll care either way, but... |
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05-10-2007, 10:29 AM | #196 | |
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05-10-2007, 11:35 AM | #197 |
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That Kraven Idea is really good. I like the Bruce Cambell playing Mysterio idea a lot better though. Theres a confirmed FOUR more movies, so Im sure all these villains will be seen eventually. Id like to eventually see a Maximum Carniage movie before the whole thing comes to an end as well.
Oh and how sweet would it be if after they make all these marvel movies, they made a Marvel Ultimate alliance movie with all the big actors from all the marvel movies. Youd have: Blade, Ghostrider, Fantastic 4, Some of the x-men (probably only wolverine and storm... maybe iceman), Spiderman, Ironman, Hulk, Punisher, i think Captain America and Thor movies are in the works. Plus all the villains you could get from the movies. I know its completely unrealistic because of the amount of big time actors in one movie but that would be the coolest thing ever. |
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He doesn't even need to be the primary villain. I mean, Sandman was established, even though the primary antagonist in this movie was (Well, arguably, it was the suit) Harry. |
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My fanboyism aside, I think nay movie like that would blow. Between the price to cast them and the egos involved, this movie would be doomed from the start. However, even if they didn't put out a Captain America movie, casting someone as Cap and having him show up in the movie would be nearly a requirement. They need a real Captain America movie. |
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