Spider-Man 3

[Jeritron]

Imagine if Marvel had contracted them all to star in one crossover movie initially in addition to their 2 or 3 movie deals in the individual franchises, and they saved it. Unrealistic, I know, but that's the only way they'd have been able to afford and land all those stars under one roof.

[Kane Knight]

Unrealistic for more reasons than you seem to think.

It'd be entertaining though.

[Better Than You]

So the mask thing doesn't bother anyone else?

[Kane Knight]

Which mask thing?

[Better Than You]

Them not wearing their masks thing.

[Jeritron]

God dude get over that. So spidey takes his mask off a lot. He does in the comics too. Plus any big spidey fight always results in his mask getting ripped or mangled to the point of it being all but gone.

He takes it off a lot in private. The only times in all 3 movies he's taken it off in front of people has been the train, in front of Doc Ock before his death to persuade him, and it was ripped off by Venom.
Sandman was let in on his identity as a result, but storywise it was for a reason.
Goblin found out through other tricky methods.
It got taken off in front of Harry in private, and MJ saw him during that second example.

So MJ and Harry are the only people who really know for more than 10 minutes. Aside from the people on the train who dont even know him anyways.

So what?
Batman takes his mask off too just to let you know. Movie wise, he's let just as many people in on his identity, whether they live to tell about it or not.

[Downunder]

Originally Posted by Better Than You So the mask thing doesn't bother anyone else?

Yeah it pissed me off, because I think toby maguire is shit, and I wanted to see spiderman - all I got was that dipshit.

[YOUR Hero]

It seems to me that SPidey and his mask will soon depart in any and all movies they make. Like it's part of the script.

[Jeritron]

I think you guys are insane. So what if he takes his mask off when hes hanging around on a roof or whatever. I'd take that thing off too. You act like Bruce Wayne wears his mask around the batcave.
As for him having his identity revealed, once again, just as many people find out Batmans identity.

And if you're saying that he always has his mask off you're exaggerating things and you know it. Any time he's slingin webs and fighting crime, it's on. I'd take it off too if I was sitting in my apartment waiting for a crime to occur, or if I was on a rooftop taking a breather after a big fight. Nobodys around. He has a spider sense you know.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Jeritron I think you guys are insane. So what if he takes his mask off when hes hanging around on a roof or whatever. I'd take that thing off too. You act like Bruce Wayne wears his mask around the batcave.

Dude, the buildings of New York are NOT the Batcave. Besides, Brock recognised Parker from an unruly distance where his face wasn't even showing.

It doesn't really bother me, but it's not like they're wrong.

However, one of my favorite moment's from SM2 is when They lay out Spider-Man and you hear people say "He's just a kid" or "he's my son's age..."

It's a cool moment. And the same with Doc Ock.

By the way, every chick he nails finding out Bruce Wayne is Batman is even worse. I mean, come on. To think a woman could hold that in, especially after a rough breakup?

[Jeritron]

Well judging strictly by the films, lets judge Batman and Spiderman and the secret of their identitys. I'm going by memory, so correct me or add anything I forget.
I'll only count the first 3 batman films to make it even.

In Batman, Vicky Vale gets nailed by him and then suddenly shes in on it. She has VIP access to the Batcave and his whole life, and what do you know, she's gone from the story. She wasn't even an intrical part. At least Mary Jane was the love of Peter's life, and was his best friend for years. And it took her 2 movies to find out, and she was hanging around for the long haul.

Then you have the villians. Every villian in the first 3 spiderman movies found out spidermans's identity. Almost the same with Batman. Batman brought it up to Joker, not worrying about revealing it, because he had revenge on his mind and was planning on offing with him. Hmmm, sounds like Spidey and Sandman.
Then of course you have Catwoman, who Batman rips his mask off to persuade. Like Sandman, she lives, and she's out there but it's not really an issue since theres no hard feelings.

As for Goblin. Spiderman never reveals it to him, he finds it out. This is similar to Riddler and Two Face. That's two characters, not one. Either way Riddler goes insane and Two Face takes the plunge.
Then you have another chick, Chase Meridian, he nails her and shes in on the secret until she takes off just like Vale. Yea, thats two vindictive ex-girlfriends with a way to ruin your life. What are the chances one of them isn't selling the story to the press?

Walken's character finds out by accident too. I'll give Robin a pass since he became a sidekick, but theres a kid whos hanging out in the house and falls down the stairs into the batcave.

In spidey's case, his best friend with a vendetta against him finds out. That's highly story driven. His love interest finds out (finally). Norman Osborn and Octavius were personal villians with Peter, therefore his identity being revealed to them adds a lot more weight. Unlike Batman, where in most cases it's just bad guys with dirt on him.

Either way, a superheros identity being revealed to villians is not entirely rare. Espeically in a genre of movies where the villian is not a recurring character like in a monthly book, but a one off antagonist. If they're dying 5 minutes later, and especially if it drives the plot, whats the big deal?

Harry and MJ finding out, key. Much better than flavor of the month hookups with keys to the batcave.

Osborn and Octavius, key to the depth of the fued with Goblin, and in Otto's case, his salvation. Cool moments as well.
Venom's knowledge was built in, bell tower regardless.
Sandman never really knew until the end, but once again key to bringing closure to what makes both characters tick.

So the only gripe I'm seeing people have is the train. Which I thought was a touching and poingant scene. I think it means a lot to the series, and Spidey finally getting credit. Plus the idea of people showing gratitude for their lives, and keeping that secret out of respect is meaningful, even if in this crappy world its unrealistic.


I do see what you mean about him taking his masks off on roofs being worse than the batcave, but I still don't see the problem in it.

[Jeritron]

Here's another pointless observation about the subject, but...




I think it's a tad easier to take off the spidey mask and put it back on at will. If the Batman movie mask (which of course had to be permanently ripped to reveal his face) was as easy to take on and off, and could fit in a pocket, I'm sure Batman would leave it on the dashboard during the drives. He's got tinted windows.
It's all about convenience.

[Jeritron]

And of course, before anyone bitches about Batman or Spiderman and how often they leave themselves open to being exposed, lets just take a look at this.




Nobody should be knocking Wayne and Parker when Kent is clearly the biggest joke of them all. I don't know who's dumber, him for attempting it, or everyone he knows for buying it hook line and sinker.

[Kane Knight]

It's fairly retarded, but it's a very mild retardation.

More an "I bent my wookie" retarded, rather than a "I was whittling a guitar naked and accidentally cut my dick off" retarded.

The one thing I'd point out about the train scene is that Parker lives in a city of millions. There are probably a dozen people minimum who look like him anyway. So when he's unmasked, they're probably not seeing Peter Parker, the Amazing Spider-Man, they're seeing some poor boy who they've never met before.

Now, I live in a town of thousands. If I were Spider-Man, and Unmasked, they'd probably know who I was within that town. And on the other side, if he was someone rich/important, like Astronaut John Jameson, Playboy Anthony Stark, or even industrialist Norman Osbourne, they'd recognise him. But Peter's best defense has always been that he's nobody. In the comics, Doc Ock unmasked him, and was all "WTF? He's a kid, not Spider-Man!" Peter even confessed a couple of times. Nobody wants to believe Spider-Man's some Nerd from Queens.

I know it kinda flies in the face of what I was saying about rooftops, but I was more saying it's different to take your mask off in public (even obscure public) over in the sanctity of your fortress (albeit one that several people have discovered).

I can't believe we're getting this deep into this sorta thing.

Meh. I like to talk.

EDIT:

Superman's ridiculous. I don't think anyone's even going to bother to defend that. but Bats and Spider-Man are characters comparable to one another, and Supes is notcomparable to either.

[Jeritron]

I agree. Spidermans not as open to as much recognition. That was exactly what I said to a friend regarding the train. Like those people would be able to say anything if they tried. Well, it was a kid between 18-30, he had brown hair and he wasn't that tall.

Of course, almost everything in Spiderman is in some way inspired by the comics. As opposed to cheap tactics to strengthen the bond between Batman's girl of the week who are written for the movie.

[Jeritron]

Of course, this is my favorite...


Movie:



Original comic:

[Kane Knight]

I was really hoping that Spider-Man being unmasked in two would be similar to the comics and cartoon.

When Harry pulled the mask off, I wanted to see Harry totally refuse to believe it. And I wanted Octavius there, too. Cementing that it was a setup.

Now, I know that as written, that wouldn't lead to Harry v Peter.

on the other hand, you could still have him haunted by his father anyway, and he still snaps. You know? His father convinces him that Parker IS Spider-Man.

But even better, Parker won't see the ribvalry coming at all. Because Osborne will play it close to the chest.

[Better Than You]

Originally Posted by Jeritron God dude get over that. So spidey takes his mask off a lot. He does in the comics too. Plus any big spidey fight always results in his mask getting ripped or mangled to the point of it being all but gone. He takes it off a lot in private. The only times in all 3 movies he's taken it off in front of people has been the train, in front of Doc Ock before his death to persuade him, and it was ripped off by Venom. Sandman was let in on his identity as a result, but storywise it was for a reason. Goblin found out through other tricky methods. It got taken off in front of Harry in private, and MJ saw him during that second example. So MJ and Harry are the only people who really know for more than 10 minutes. Aside from the people on the train who dont even know him anyways. So what? Batman takes his mask off too just to let you know. Movie wise, he's let just as many people in on his identity, whether they live to tell about it or not.

dude, they are CLEARLY just making excuses to take his mask off.

And no, he does not take his mask off in a public in the comics that often at all. You are dead wrong.

Every villians has found out his idenity so far. Everyone. Every single one.

Plus dozens of randoms.

Some secrete.

[Better Than You]

But again, I've came to see spiderman. I want to see spiderman. Not tobey mguire.



That guy.


Not this piece of shit:

[Jeritron]

Yea, well you're right about wanting to see Spiderman. But since it's a movie and a story about Peter Parker/Spiderman, you're gonna see plenty of Parker. When Spidey is Spidey, he wears the mask and he does plenty of it. He has the mask on in all the fights. Your complaints about Spidey not showing up in the suit enough seem unfounded. Hes in action as Spidey more in this one than any of the others, and if you wanted 2 hours of Spiderman fights with no time to explore his character or Parker, then you're not expecting a movie, just one prolounged action sequence.

You say you were irked because it took time to see him dawn the mask as Spidey. From what I remember, he was Spiderman in the first shot of the movie, and then was in the suit and fighting within 15 minutes.

The Gwen Stacy Rescue
The Ceremony/Bank Robbery Sequence
The Black suit acquisition
The second Marko fight
The final battle

Of course his first fight was in street clothes, but he was Spiderman. This happens. It was a suprise attack.

Did you have a problem with the first or second movie? Because he wasn't in the suit nearly as much in those. I guess deal with it, I don't know what to tell you but expecting him to be in action and in the suit all the time is expecting too much, and would result in the movie being complete garbage.


P.S., He spends more time as Spiderman in the movie than Bruce spends as Batman in any of his.

[Jeritron]

Originally Posted by Better Than You dude, they are CLEARLY just making excuses to take his mask off. And no, he does not take his mask off in a public in the comics that often at all. You are dead wrong. Every villians has found out his idenity so far. Everyone. Every single one. Plus dozens of randoms. Some secrete.

Okay, but you used Batman as your example. Everyone of Batmans villians found out. And dozens of randoms? You're referring to one scene. Don't use that to pull wool over peoples eyes as if there's dozens of cases when it's only one. And he doesn't take it off in public. Taking it off for a second while on the top off a church at night isn't neccesarily public. He doesn't just take the fuckin thing off in the streets. He was unmasked on the train, get over it. It happened in the comics which you seem to maintain it never did.
Goblin, Doc Ock, Venom, Harry and MJ have found out. Check out your comic storylines which I seem to not know.
Aunt Mae doesn't even know.

No randoms have found out besides that scene, which you clearly missed the importance of.
I doubt they're making excuses to take his mask off, as if it were some hidden agenda.

I'm dead wrong that he takes it off in the comics...okay, Well, he does man. I showed you the instance where Doc Ock unmasks him in front of random people. He takes it off when he's alone, he has had it taken off during fights OFTEN.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I saw it today, and I liked it. I wasn't expecting anything deep or meaningful, just a no-brainer, action film that would keep me entertained whilst outside it was pouring it down. The whole saturday night fever scenes were a bit painful, but the action scenes delivered.

[Jeritron]

Originally Posted by Better Than You And no, he does not take his mask off in a public in the comics that often at all. You are dead wrong..

He doesn't in the movies EITHER! You're imagining things because you don't like seeing him with his mask off in down scenes or in private or whatever. If you can name two or three cases of him taking his mask off in public in all 3 movies be my guest.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Jeritron I'm dead wrong that he takes it off in the comics...okay, Well, he does man. I showed you the instance where Doc Ock unmasks him in front of random people. He takes it off when he's alone, he has had it taken off during fights OFTEN.

I wouldn't say often, but enough. He's also taken it off several times after fights. He's been tear gassed, slimed, and webbed into situations where his mask had to come off.

He's unmasked himself intentionally before, though he was sick.

He's been unmasked a couple of times in public, and even had to create a webmask a couple of times. And let's not forget the FF Costume...

[Jeritron]

I just see it as a complaint of something that isn't a flaw. Not liking it is fine, but it shouldn't be considered a fault when it isn't one.

[Jeritron]

Originally Posted by Kane Knight I wouldn't say often, but enough. He's also taken it off several times after fights. He's been tear gassed, slimed, and webbed into situations where his mask had to come off.

Yea, similar to how his mask was burnt and he was blinded while on the train. The severity of the situation outweighed personal concern. Very similar to those instances. Then of course you have Venom who ripped it off in an effort to humiliate and expose him, but he got it back soon after.
Other than that he's never been unmasked, intentionally or by accident in public.
In spiderman 1 he had in impromptu rescue with street thugs, which he scurried away from to put his mask on before facing MJ.

Other than that, I can't think of any instances where he's been in public with the mask off, unless of course you count him chillin on a rooftop momentarily.

[Kane Knight]

The train scene was one of my favorite parts of Spider-Man 2. Mostly because it's something Superman would do without a second thought, but Spider-Man knew he was in over his head, and it literally stretched him to the limits.

There are a lot of little thnigs you can nitpick, though, so I mean, this is a pretty small one. I mean:

Raimi thought it stretched imagination to have Spider-Man come up with web shooters due to cost and practicality, but he can afford expensive fabrics and Special lenses that don't impair visibility and fold like cloth?


Spider-Man no longer uses magical crazy glue, but those little tiny fibers can make his shoes stick to walls?

Why even bother bringing in Gwen this late in the game?

Why doesn't Sandman's locket disintegrate, and why can he hold onto it?

What the fuck were they thinking with Green Goblin's "Do the Dew" look? Okay, I know Harry technically wasn't the Goblin, but...

[Jeritron]

I agree with all those things, they're ridiculous but I kinda just let them go.
Although I agree with bringing Gwen in as a tool to put stress on the Parker/MJ relationship, and add some gravity to Brock's hate for Parker in addition to just the job.
Plus she looked amazing.

[Jon Kano]

Its not too late to bring her in if they are going to continue the franchise, which is most likely.

[Jeritron]

Originally Posted by Kane Knight The train scene was one of my favorite parts of Spider-Man 2. Mostly because it's something Superman would do without a second thought, but Spider-Man knew he was in over his head, and it literally stretched him to the limits.

Loved that

[Jon Kano]

Just seen it. Not going to go into too much detail as to why, because frankly I'm fucking heartbroken. It was shit.....werent it, lets just admit it, it was fucking shit.

I had dreamed a dream....and now that dream has left me.

[Kane Knight]

I'm lost as to why you thought it sucked.

[DaBrasko]

Also keep in mind that fanboys will never be happy with any comicbook movie. There is always too much to explain for the basic person who doesnt know anything about the comics so ofcourse the director will have to "alter" things about the basic story of the character.

[G]

this movie was fucking great. i just watched it on a bootleg, okay quality, dark picture, and still throught it was awesome.

[Kalyx triaD]

I was about 6-7 years old when I stood behind a kid in line at WJ Bryan Ele. as we all headed in for class after 'play-time' (get us too fatigued to run-amok in class). I saw on the back of the boy's shirt a character fully covered in a red and blue costume decorated with a spider-web design. It was there I emulated that odd hand gesture of his that shot out webbing at the viewer. Years later I'd catch a cartoon of Spider-Man and saw him in action for the first time; he sticks to walls and swings on web around sky-scrapers... He was the greatest thing I've ever seen at the time. I would be 11yo when I first read a single Spidey comic (a redux of his origin story, rightfully) and along with the rest of us a teenager when Fox Kids dropped the Spider-Man animated series for their (perfect) Saturday morning block. Even back then the powers-that-be were trying their damndest to get Spidey a big screen adaptation. I waited forever to see Peter Parker realized on screen, wondering if it'll ever happen in my lifetime. A few weeks ago the third of the film series dropped; to date I've seen it twice. At 24yo, I'm reminded of everything Spidey was to me as a child. And for the third time in a theater, atleast spiritually, I was standing behind that boy with the Spidey t-shirt all over again.

Tale of the Tape:
You know what's makes something as ambitious as a trilogy work? Consistency: consistent actors, consistent style, consistent continuity, and most importantly a consistent director. These factors MAKES or BREAKS a film series; and a lot of the time some trilogies can't hang. Some trilogies are motivated by post-release success; The Matrix and Pirates were obvious one-shots that got 'trilogized'. Other trilogies are planned from the start, to varying degrees of success; X-Men and Spy-Kids come to mind. What makes the Spider-Man film series the 'point of study' for anyone wanting to do a film trilogy (it's impact on the comic-film genre will be discussed later) is it's consistency despite acceptable reasons for something less. Tobey M. suffered a back injury between SP1 and 2, two full years were between each feature, other film series suffered from far less factors. Somehow, well I'll tell you how, Spider-Man 3 manages to continue the track of consistency while being far and away better than it's previous efforts. This is how you do a trilogy, kids. Georgy Lu and his 2nd Star Wars trilogy got nothing on what Sam Raimi managed to execute in nearly half the time.

The Stories So far:
Spidey 3 opens with clips of the last two movie's important events. You may remember Spidey 2 opened with a similar sequence except we were recapped with still shots painted by Alex Ross (look him up). Note that this is a Marvel stable whether intended by Raimi or not to recap readers on what went down up until the current point of the story.
What we're reminded of is boy-nerd Peter Parker getting bit by a scientifically altered spider (a red-n-blue one at that) thus being able to "Do whatever a spider can". He uses his new-found powers for personal gain and enters a strongman contest to win enough money to impress high school cutie Mary-Jane Watson. He gets hustled into winning very little money and he's pissed enough to let a thief have his way with the promoter (a thief who wasn't so alone after all). In a life changing lesson Peter's uncle, Ben Parker, dies due to Pete's apathy. Peter becomes a super-hero and battles his best friend's crazy daddy Norman Osborne/Green Goblin. Gobby kills himself and his son blames Spider-Man. Eventually Peter wins the heart of MJ, as he battles Doctor Octopus who thinks it's smart to create a miniature star in New York. Getting a reformed Doc Oct to save New York at the expense of his own life, MJ finds out who Spider-Man really is. The two begin a relationship as angst ridden Harry Osborne finds his father's Goblin gear. That's two movies in a nutshell, you want details go to your local Blockbuster Video.
Now Peter is a hero to all of New York. He's adored while MJ is suffering a career downfall putting her in the shadow of Pete's stardom. Despite this, Peter feels it's time to take the relationship to a higher level. Unfortunately, Harry takes his feelings to a new level as well when he goes after Peter/Spidey as the New Goblin (not Hob-Goblin). After an airborne battle, Harry suffers a knock to the head that causes short term amnesia, which pretty much reverts him back into Spider-Man 1 Harry. Oh yeah, Gwen Stacy and Eddie Brock are introduced in a wild crane scene. While Peter and Harry pick up their friendship again, new development comes of Uncle Ben's murder; Flint Marko becomes the new prime suspect. Peter's thirst for revenge makes him obsessed with any news his police-radio can pick up on Marko.
Going to sleep in-costume, Peter is emotionally and physically vulnerable to the Symbiote, a living alien substance that attaches itself to Peter. In a scene straight from the Fox Kids 'toon, Peter awakens hanging on the side of a building in new black duds, seemingly stronger. This is essentially when the movie really begins.

Spider-Plots:
There are as many as four different plots going on in the film varying in screen-time and importance. They all tie in together in a third act that manages to have every major player of the trilogy in one place (even Daily Bugle boss JJ). Seeing the movie bob in and out of comic-nonsense and down-to-earth emotions is an art all future comic-films should note. On one hand we have the parallel MJ-Peter/Gwen, Peter-Eddie/Work plots; and on the other we got hover boards and alien costumes. Being able to follow each plot with their different levels of believability is a credit to Raimi. And unlike X3's sub-plots, they don't get lost in fan-service.

Peter/Mary-Jane:
That last shot in Spidey 2 gives a sense of what their relationship becomes in this movie. It's about as close to a real relationship involving a superhero as I can imagine in the real world. Harry factoring in the plot adds the right touch that should have been used in the second movie as well (instead of that plot device, Man-Wolf). Their break-up was a reasonable conclusion considering Peter was being a prick to her even before the suit's influence. It also adds so much more weight to Peter's line in the first movie about why Spider-Man shouldn't have close ties in the first place. Gwen Stacy only ever meets MJ once, but her presence was enough to drive the couple apart even more. Then there's the Spidey-kiss which I feel was abit forced. It cheapens the moment from the first movie, which I suppose was the point that we feel MJ's disappointment. Though I don't think Raimi is that good a director.

Aunt May:
May's ability to say exactly what Peter needs to hear is uncanny, isn't it? When Spidey goes up against the Lizard she'll give him a speech about how reptiles can be overcome with love. I do appreciate her appearance even still.

Sandman:
I must say that his origin scene is one of the best I've ever seen in a super-hero film. One second you're reaching out with him as he tries to grip that pendant, then his theme plays and it's like, "Remember people; bad-guy." I could almost root for him with his plot in mind, but the odd reversal of priorities is daunting. He goes from a point of Peter's wrath to backseat villain when Venom arrives for his 15 minutes of fame. It's funny because Eddie goes from background character to public enemy number 1 by film's end, most likely orchestrating the entire third act. Seeing Sandman work, like Doc Oct, is like watching absurd wonder before your eyes. Here's this guy made of sand, complete with sand-fists and sand-giant forms, played with such depth. More depth than he really needed. Such attention to a character's background could've been given to Venom, who I will get to in a sec, but at the film's ending you see the pieced fall in place. We should all hate the killer of Ben Parker, but Raimi goes out of his way to protect Marko. If we've done something wrong, something terrible that inadvertently changed someone's life and then faced that person: what then? What do you say and how do you say it? Peter and Flint's exchanges at the end of the film make for a better lesson in the illogical super-human ability to forgive than some church services. And since living with hard decisions seem to be a running theme in the trilogy, it fits as Peter/Spidey's emotional climax as an individual. It's also a lesson in getting the whole story before you break a guy's wrist and kick him out of a window.

"I like being bad, it makes me happy.":
I love the concept of Venom. I'm not as big a fan of Venom as Agent M but I do adore a good doppelganger, an evil version of a hero. Wolverine/Sabretooth; love it. That's what Venom is to me, this horrible version of Spider-Man. Raimi paints him the way I always thought of him, which is why I love his design. But the problem is Raimi never wanted to add Venom to the franchise and you can tell. His screen time is criminal, made worse by the fact that whenever Eddie/Venom is on screen things are freaking awesome. That 70's Guy works as an alternate Peter Parker, when he's on screen. Venom looks and moves awesome, when he's on screen. And after some awesome spider vs. spider scenes, he gets blown away in an ambiguous send-off. I suppose giving Venom a flashy mysterious death is all the respect Raimi can conjure for Venom fans. Keep in mind Raimi has no love for Venom, and we can't expect much when his arm had to be twisted to include the character.

New Goblin, Spidey/Goblin Team-Up:
This is Harry's movie. This is, character and actor wise, the part of the series where he gets his due. From his super-hero introduction ("You knew this was coming, Pete!"), lost memory scenes ("Bonk."), heel-turn scenes ("I protected you in high school now I'll kick your little ass."), to his final redemption ("We're friends..."); Goblin Jr. is my favorite character in the movie. His journey was as rich as Peter's, flawed only with a much too convenient face-turn involving some of the expositoriest monologues in any comic-film. Still, there was something special about the Spidey/Goblin team-up that's almost tear inducing when you think back to the two pal's high school beginnings. Now Harry's launching Peter into Venom and fending off a giant Sandman with a flame-throwing hover board. If this wasn't a comic movie you'd find this associative conclusion pretty silly. Even if it was obvious, the tag team climax was satisfying on so many levels to me. The Harry/Peter plot concluded in such a way that improves on its source material, something future comic-film makers should think about.

Conclusionals:
This is a far better movie in general than it is a comic-movie. Raimi managed to conclude a three act tale of responsibility, revenge, and redemption. It was fun, it was thoughtful, and it was a great movie and example of superior adaptation. And seeing Spidey actually swing around on his web-rope and sticking to walls in live-action for a third time, may not amaze as it once did. But seeing a fun, well directed, dance number (?) sporting, super-hero team-up feature; that makes me a little boy looking at something great again. I wonder if the kid with the shirt feels the same way today.

[Team Sheep]

Saw it yesterday.

The Peter "heel turn" had me giggling so loudly. Felt so gay in the cinema lol, nobody else found it funny.

Loved it though :y)

[Savio]

I was disapointed. Venom was a waste and shouldn't have been broughten in until the next movie so he could be developed more. Besides the first fight scene none were really that great
. I think the movie should have been reconstructed for only 2 villians

[Mr Regal]

Originally Posted by Team Sheep Saw it yesterday. The Peter "heel turn" had me giggling so loudly. Felt so gay in the cinema lol, nobody else found it funny. Loved it though :y)

That was the worst part of the movie for me (and everyone of my friends too)

So embarrasing. I also hated the jazz bar scene. Fucking hideous.

[Jeritron]

Oh come on. How is that embarassing? If you thought it was stupid, then fine but embarassing?

I'm not afraid to admit that was one of my favorite parts of the 3 movies. Yea I said it. I don't give a fuck. I loved it just like I loved the "raindrops keep fallin on my head" sequence. I love good movies and I like things to be taken seriously, but I'm at a Spider-Man movie in the month of May, so I don't mind having a little lighthearted fun.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Jeritron Oh come on. How is that embarassing? If you thought it was stupid, then fine but embarassing? I'm not afraid to admit that was one of my favorite parts of the 3 movies. Yea I said it. I don't give a fuck. I loved it just like I loved the "raindrops keep fallin on my head" sequence. I love good movies and I like things to be taken seriously, but I'm at a Spider-Man movie in the month of May, so I don't mind having a little lighthearted fun.

I don't get the embarrassing bit, either. Who the fuck gets embarrassed by movies? I mean, the only people who should are the people who wrote, acted, directed, etc. IF ANYONE.

Anyway, the scene was kinda lame, but if a nerd goes evil, he's still a nerd. That shit made sense. I didn't like it, but people are WAY overreacting.