05-27-2007, 03:07 AM | #241 |
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05-27-2007, 03:22 AM | #242 |
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I liked it, saw it last night. I rofled @ emo spiderman though. Peter Parker looking emo when he was Symbiote Spiderman was hilarious.. Overall, very good movie in my opinion. as good as you can make a movie based off a comic book.
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05-27-2007, 03:59 AM | #243 |
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I'm not familiar with the comics whatsoever so I can't really compare or whatever, so it was awesome for me. If I did actually know how the real Spiderman comic storyline goes then I might be a little annoyed. But I din't so that's great
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05-27-2007, 07:22 AM | #244 |
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Yeah, it was kinda comic like, i only thought Topher Grace wasn't the right person for Brock/Venom, in the comics Brock/Venom were kinda buffed, like almost twice the size of Parker/Spiderman.
SPOILER: And the ending with Venom dieng, come on! I hope we'll still see Venom in upcoming spidey movies,though, i love the personage of Venom. Pitty that Ramsey doesn't like the Venom character. Anyway, overall it was a good movie imo. Last edited by Sephiroth; 05-27-2007 at 07:27 AM. |
05-27-2007, 11:03 AM | #245 | |
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05-27-2007, 12:22 PM | #246 |
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Eddie clearly jumped out of the way, maybe injured. He'll return when he's fully healed in time to star in his own movie with Carnage as a villain.
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05-27-2007, 02:38 PM | #247 |
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1) He didn't clearly jump out of the way. As a matter of fact, he clearly got disintegrated into a skeleton.
2) When he's healed he'll star in his own movie? So the movie will go into production once the real life Eddie Brock/Venom is healed up and ready to swing around and star in his own movie? |
05-27-2007, 02:57 PM | #248 |
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I don't think it's particularly clear that he got disintegrated.
By the way, if you're turned into a skeleton, you're not disintegrated. Sorry to nitpick. Anyway, I think it's pretty clear he survived through the power of Dramatic Editing. By the same merit that we don't have to wait for the real-life Eddie Brock to heal, we don't assume the villain in a comic movie is dead, just because we saw an explosion and a cartoon skeleton. |
05-27-2007, 03:03 PM | #249 |
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Perhaps he's alive. I don't doubt it for a second. It's just that he said he was clearly out of the way of the explosion and maybe injured.
I just figured him getting turned into a skeleton was similar to the people in Spidey1 who get pumpkin bombed and turn into skeletons momentarily before fully disintegrating. After all, it was a pumpkin bomb and a quick glance of a skeleton in both cases. And it's not like a skeleton was left behind. Sorry to nitpick the nitpick haha |
05-27-2007, 05:00 PM | #250 |
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Didn't Harry turn all Skeleton-y too, though? And walk off with only an unhappy face? My memory's a bit wonky on the scene, so maybe I'm wrong.
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05-27-2007, 05:19 PM | #251 |
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I think the bomb just blew up next to him and threw him from the explosion/burnt him.
I think they take liberties with the pumpkin bomb effects. Sometimes they are disintegraters and turn the person to a skeleton before completely vaporising them or whatever (the execs in 1, Eddie in 3), sometimes they're just fire bombs (like with Harry in 3 and when one hit Spidey in 1 and just burnt his mask and tossed him), other times they're heavy explosives and take out balconies. And other times they're not even bombs at all. I guess it's one of those things where what it really does is what the plot calls for. From what I saw, Eddie turned into a skeleton and everything vaporized like the pumpkin bomb from part 1. That doesn't mean much though, since they can go back on that and do whatever is called for to bring Venom back if they see fit. In movies like this, these things only really follow one rule: they can do or can't do whatever the story sees fit. If they decide Venom lived, then Venom lived. But for the purposes of this film and for the time being Venom died. |
05-27-2007, 10:16 PM | #252 | |
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05-27-2007, 10:36 PM | #253 |
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The only problem is you can see Eddie Brock's skeleton when the pumpkin bomb goes off, and he's not anywhere to be seen afterwards either. Again, I don't doubt for a second them bringing Venom and/or Eddie back in the sequels. At this point we've seen just about everything in the world of movies, especially studio owned comic book ones. But I think it's safe to say Venom and Eddie are dead until proven otherwise (ie some bullshit plot twist in a subsequent installment)
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05-28-2007, 09:08 AM | #254 |
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I'm still not seeing that as a problem. And I fail to see how it needs a "bullshit plot twist" to make him not dead.
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05-28-2007, 10:32 AM | #255 | |
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05-28-2007, 11:08 AM | #256 |
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Topher works fine for the emo Spider-Man saga.
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05-28-2007, 12:46 PM | #257 | |
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05-28-2007, 08:38 PM | #258 |
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I don't watch "That 70s Show."
I see him as a little wuss who probably wouldn't play Venom if Spider-Man wasn't turned into an emo saga. |
05-28-2007, 10:00 PM | #259 |
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I loved the Eddie Brock character, and I loved Topher playing it. I'm seriously hoping (and believing) that he's not dead, and Venom will return in the next installment.
But essentially, he played a far darker version of Eric Foreman from That 70's Show. For some weird reason though, it worked, and seemed like vintage Brock. The "What the hell, man?!" line when Black Suited Spider Man destroyed his camera was a page straight out of Eric Foreman's book. |
05-28-2007, 11:02 PM | #260 |
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Besides, why were all villains death on screen but Venom's?
Cause he got out of the way. |
05-28-2007, 11:13 PM | #261 |
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see once again you don't seem to get it, his death WAS on screen.
He is blown up and you SEE HIM TURN INTO A SKELETON BEFORE DISSAPEARING COMPLETELY FROM THE SHOT. He didn't jump anywhere because you can see everything in a 20 ft radius and I think Spidey would too. I just checked it in a bootleg version just to be sure. So tell me another one... Like I said, they can figure out some outlandish way to bring him back, but he's just as dead as anyone else ever in any other movie. I don't doubt him being brought back if they want to, but right now it's all just fanboy denial that precious Venom was in their mind underused and sure to come back. Last edited by Jeritron; 05-28-2007 at 11:15 PM. |
05-28-2007, 11:14 PM | #262 |
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It doesn't have to be outlandish.
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05-28-2007, 11:18 PM | #263 |
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I also saw a skeleton. I will even admit that, as big of a Venom fanboy as I am.
However, that doesn't necessarily equate shit. No body = no death, in regards to comics, and adaptations of comics. |
05-28-2007, 11:18 PM | #264 |
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I'd like to hear how one brings back a character that we see die and dissapear from the face of the earth....
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05-28-2007, 11:19 PM | #265 |
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Doc Ock is more alive than Venom, and Doc Ock is dead
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05-28-2007, 11:36 PM | #266 |
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Venom's alive and reading your hate post.
Right now. Cause he jumped out of the way. That skeleton was Harry Osborne. |
05-28-2007, 11:52 PM | #267 |
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oh, true
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05-28-2007, 11:53 PM | #268 |
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05-29-2007, 02:10 AM | #269 |
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I coulda swore that the Venom symbiote couldn't be killed by bombs in the comics...
Needed more Venom and it woulda been a perfect movie imo. |
05-29-2007, 09:55 AM | #270 | |
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05-29-2007, 10:05 AM | #272 |
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You know what, why didn't the symbiote jump from Brock and attach itself to Sandman. That would have made a marriage of mayhem.
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05-29-2007, 10:32 AM | #273 |
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Maybe it can't latch on to guys made of sand.
Though maybe it should have jumped ship to Harry. |
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05-29-2007, 03:52 PM | #275 | |
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Fire's always been bad for venom, so I'd chalk that up to a change in character (If recently) or a cntinuity issue. |
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05-29-2007, 03:59 PM | #276 |
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If they bring Venom back after that bullshit of a film they will only dig themselves into a bigger grave that has a headstone with the words WE KILLED SPIDERMAN
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05-29-2007, 04:20 PM | #277 |
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Yes, they're really digging themselves a grave with their unparralleled success. And the popularity of the franchise.
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05-29-2007, 04:41 PM | #278 |
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Venom isn't dead, he is regenerating and he will be back stronger then ever.
Dammit, if Rami doesn't bring back Venom, i'm going to throw a bomb at him. |
05-29-2007, 05:21 PM | #279 |
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Well according to your logic throwing a bomb at him would allow him to be unharmed and come back stronger. So who's winning?
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05-29-2007, 05:23 PM | #280 |
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^
Jeritron raises a good point. Maybe Raimi is vulnerable to sonic frequencies. |