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Old 12-21-2007, 01:04 PM   #801
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I figured his record speaks for it self..
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Old 12-21-2007, 01:07 PM   #802
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I figured his record speaks for it self..
He's fighting that Hong Man Choi guy or whatever his name is. So does his record really mean much if he doesnt' fight anybody in the Top Ten?
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Old 12-21-2007, 01:09 PM   #803
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Yeah, Muhamed Ali isn't planning on fighting any ranked fighters in the future, so he can't be one of the greatest of all time..

That makes sense..
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Old 12-21-2007, 03:42 PM   #804
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we all knew his record, everyone can see it. Everyone says hes the best. i just figured you could add to the statement with something interesting like an interview or a video or really anything at all. I guess I was mistaken.
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He's fighting that Hong Man Choi guy or whatever his name is. So does his record really mean much if he doesnt' fight anybody in the Top Ten?
Just because your the best doesnt mean you have to fight number one contenders everytime. He slaughters everyone he faces. Even his decision victories were complete bowouts. The guy has fought the best guys that were available to him and killed them.

Sometimes you have to build up a ighter by giving him inferior opponents to sharpen their game. For example having Fedor fight an expert striker to see how he performs or to fight an expert grappler. The goal to sharpen their skills and make them a more complete fighter. If those opponents are too good at their area, chances are Fedor would be able to take the fight to the area that the oponent is at hi weakest like the ground for the striker or staying standing against a grappler.

Look at Wanderlei Silva's record. He faught a mixture of cans and tough competition his entire career which buit him up to the grea fighter he is now.
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and before someone says "why woud he need to do that hes already the best blah blah"... theres always someone out there thats better or at the very least have what it takes to beat the top dog and you need to constantly sharpen and refine your game so that you are ready for opponents like that.
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Old 12-21-2007, 11:05 PM   #807
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I didn't really want to get into a "Why Fedor is considered one of the best" discussions but OK.. I was just letting Ant know who he was.. Anyway, every fight I've ever seen of his has been super exciting.. I think the fact that he doesn't look dominant yet is intrigues me.. Like, he looks like a normal guy with a little beer gut and all but is a beast in the ring.. I don't think I've ever seen him gas.. He has amazing composure even when he is seemingly "losing" (he never seems to freak out when bloody or in a bad ground position).. He has crazy ground control and agility for a bigger guy.. And he is one of the best strikers and has quick hands for any weightclass but specially for heavyweight..

I think him vs Couture will be great but I think Fedor will take it, specially if they stayed on their feet..
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Old 12-22-2007, 05:08 PM   #812
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hes just doing it for leverage in getting more money in another fight. hes not going to fight in mma.
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Old 12-24-2007, 12:44 PM   #815
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Kripsy's comment on how Fedor is a normal looking dude who kicks as is pretty bang on.

I do think right now Couture takes it though. He just seems to be in the right frame of mind.
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Fedor came in at the top level at the time and got better as the sport began to develop. Randy came in as a great wrestler that was good but not the best and has rose exponentially to the point he is now.
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UFC® 79 NEMESIS


Name Height Weight Record Name Height Weight Record
Matt Hughes 5' 9" (175 cm) 170 43-5-0 Georges St-Pierre 5' 10" (178 cm) 170 14-2-0
Chuck Liddell 6' 2" (188 cm) 205 20-5-0 Wanderlei Silva 5' 11" (180 cm) 205 31-7-1
Lyoto Machida 6' 1" (185 cm) 205 11-0-0 Rameau Sokoudjou 6' 0" (183 cm) 205 4-1-0
Rich Clementi 5' 9" (175 cm) 155 37-12-1 Melvin Guillard 5' 9" (175 cm) 155 39-7-3
Soa Palelei 6' 4" (193 cm) 265 8-1-0 Eddie Sanchez 6' 2" (188 cm) 230 9-1-0
Luiz Cane 6' 2" (188 cm) 205 8-0-0 James Irvin 6' 2" (188 cm) 205 12-4-1
Nate Mohr 5' 9" (175 cm) 155 8-4-0 Manny Gamburyan 5' 5" (165 cm) 155 5-3-0
Jordan Radev 5' 7" (170 cm) 185 16-2-0 Dean Lister 6' 1" (185 cm) 185 9-5-0
Roan Carneiro 5' 9" (175 cm) 170 11-6-0 Tony DeSouza 6' 1" (185 cm) 170 10-3-0
Mark Bocek 5' 8" (173 cm) 155 4-1-0 Doug Evans 5' 9" (175 cm) 155 6-1-0


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I respect him as a fighter, but I hate how he has a gang of faggots who run out a massage his greasy body after every fight..
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Cmon GSP & Cmon THE ICEMAN !!!
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first UFC fight in 7 years
Does that really matter??

It's arguable but it could be said he was fighting better fighters in Pride than he would have been in UFC.. (which I believe)

I mean in those seven years he was fighting the likes of Dangerous Dan Henderson, Sakuraba, Rampage, Guy Mezger, Mark Hunt, Fajita, Cro Cop, etc etc etc..

Other than Couture, Tito, and Liddell what "big money" match has he missed out on??
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Does that really matter??

It's arguable but it could be said he was fighting better fighters in Pride than he would have been in UFC.. (which I believe)

I mean in those seven years he was fighting the likes of Dangerous Dan Henderson, Sakuraba, Rampage, Guy Mezger, Mark Hunt, Fajita, Cro Cop, etc etc etc..

Other than Couture, Tito, and Liddell what "big money" match has he missed out on??
It matters because every Pride star has failed in the UFC since the buy out. Also because he was allowed to take whatever drugs he wanted to in Japan and can't in the States. He had great competition in Pride but also had his share of cans.

Also - Fajita made me laugh.
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Yea but a lot of Liddel's matches were way of 2 win rematches. Most coming off of KOs the first time. He knocked out randy, tito, and babalu in that fasion and thats all in 25 fights. Other than Sakuraba and Rampage, Wanderlei faught different people every fight with barely any 2 win rematches for 39 fights. Its hard to keep a successful streak like he had fighting all different kinds of opponents and fighting styles without getting caught a couple of times.
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Also - Fajita made me laugh.
I like Fajita.. He made Shamrock submit by allowing Ken to punch him in the head until he was gassed..

I just found out I'm prolly not watching the PPV tonight..

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Old 12-29-2007, 07:41 PM   #836
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Yes..

In 2000 at Pride 10.. I just saw it on the FSN Pride show a few years back..

Shamrock gave him everything he had and I believe late in the second round (with the Pride 10 minute first), Shamrock was completely gassed and Fujita just kept coming and Shamrocks corner threw in the towel..
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Is there usually a UFC PPV thread during the event? I don't think I've ever been on here for one before.
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No..

This is the all purpose MMA thread so 95% of all MMA discussion happens in here.. Even TUF discussion..
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I wanted us to have an entire forum..

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Does anyone know a site that does good play by play for PPV's??
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