08-24-2016, 07:53 AM | #41 |
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Miz and Bryan are friends so I bet they cleared it all with each other. But both guys tapped into something real about the other one which brings out the passion.
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08-24-2016, 08:55 AM | #42 |
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Goddamn, Miz. That was amazing.
Though it does just make me more sad that the promos on the main show are so scripted and paint-by-numbers. Wish guys were able to show this much personality and emotion all the time. |
08-24-2016, 09:05 AM | #43 |
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The reason why it was on talking smack is because it was ad-libbed, not scripted.
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08-24-2016, 09:07 AM | #44 |
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General rule of thumb: if a promo actually makes people question in the slightest whether it was a work or shoot, it was a fucking awesome promo.
Obviously nothing in WWE is a total shoot, but if you can get caught in the moment at the time you're watching it it's wonderful. |
08-24-2016, 09:21 AM | #45 |
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Funny thing is is that I was gonna create a thread asking if there has ever been a WWE champ that was never injured before. And apparently yes, Miz has never been injured I guess.
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08-24-2016, 09:28 AM | #46 |
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Does that concussion and not remembering the main event of Mania 27 count?
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08-24-2016, 09:54 AM | #47 |
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To be fair I don't really remember the main event of Mania.
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08-24-2016, 10:11 AM | #48 |
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Goddamn that wsa some hot fire.
Renee seemed like she didnt know this was going down. And they did a good job of making it look legit. Bryan kept edging to shoot comments and Miz tried to keep it kayfabe, t hen finally went wit hthe "You wanna shoot, lets shoot" and fucking laid it down. Fucking loved it. You could see the real feelings in the Miz. Guy has been up and down and has been shit on by people all along. |
08-24-2016, 10:15 AM | #49 | |
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08-24-2016, 10:18 AM | #50 |
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He has a point about the wrestlers getting injured too. Balor and Rollins are both recent examples of why his 'coward' moveset is smart.
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08-24-2016, 10:20 AM | #51 |
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Regardless of whether she was kept completely in the dark or not, I thought there was also some subtle perfection in Renee's role. She tried to mediate for just a moment but then didn't fuck with it. Also, she's hot.
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08-24-2016, 10:21 AM | #52 |
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What makes this so effective is that hes a Heel, tearing down a face, with nothing but TRUTH people dont want to hear.
This isnt meaningless shit like "Im going to end your legacy" or "Im the best yay" Legit truth in this makes it not only real, but gives it real stakes. Miz has legit been there day in and day out working his ass off to get over without needing to fall on risky moves that put him on the shelf. People love Finn but now wont see him for 6 months. Rollins, Bryan, Neville. Part of being a great performer is....being there to perform. |
08-24-2016, 10:22 AM | #53 |
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Yes, lets talk about how Smackdown "makes it about the talent and not the authority" and immediately have a scheming authority figure screw over a talent.... that's logical...
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08-24-2016, 10:24 AM | #54 |
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He just got under his skin so much and snapped, it's perfectly fine from a storyline perspective. DB's GM character is still a human being with emotions.
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08-24-2016, 10:27 AM | #55 |
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It's the thing Foley talked about in his first book. A great heel finds a way to believe the gist of what he's saying even if he's exaggerating for the purpose of being a dick.
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08-24-2016, 10:34 AM | #56 |
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08-24-2016, 10:36 AM | #57 |
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08-24-2016, 10:41 AM | #58 |
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08-24-2016, 10:58 AM | #59 |
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Bottom line is that I hope they realize what it means to have a "viral hit" and how much that means in the media these days. It means more to late night than traditional ratings to a certain degree.
Then they have to run with it and build off it so that what got people clicking on this get interested in the product they're selling. |
08-24-2016, 11:08 AM | #60 | |
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I honestly think that there were shoot aspects in this. This is a guy who has heard all this a million times, who wrestles more matches a year than guys who keep getting injured, who out-promos the majority of the guys in his brand, and here he is getting put down because of his "style". He knows that this is the safe way of saying "you are not a good enough wrestler". I think it struck a nerve and there is a lot more frustration and passion in that promo than there normally would be. He seems to regain himself at the end, possibly because Bryan walked off? And starts to direct it back into normal promo mode. Whatever it is it is interesting, and to be honest, a great answer to AT's thread about story or match. Story all day long...when it gets it right like this has so far. |
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08-24-2016, 11:15 AM | #61 |
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270k views as of this post....fucking hell this is truly gold!!
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08-24-2016, 11:20 AM | #62 |
It's a blood match!
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Miz could easily be the top heel.
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08-24-2016, 11:21 AM | #63 |
It's a blood match!
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Funny enough, Bryan is right about Miz's work and Miz is right about Bryan's work.
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08-24-2016, 11:26 AM | #64 |
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I wish the performers were able to do things like this more...I feel they basically allowed him a "pipe-bomb" type promo to a certain degree. They basically told him "Say what you want, how you want it, but here's what we want you to accomplish."
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08-24-2016, 12:50 PM | #65 |
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The more i've thought about it, i feel like it's a work. I think if this was a total shoot, Renee would have kept her mouth shut and not try to interject.
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08-24-2016, 12:56 PM | #66 | |
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She is the host, it's her job to keep things on track, bit yeah, you have made me second guess it with that thought. |
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08-24-2016, 12:57 PM | #67 |
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It is a work, total work. It's just not scripted and touches on real issues and Miz's delivery is on point, that's it.
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08-24-2016, 01:21 PM | #68 |
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Yeah. There is no such thing as a total shoot in WWE. You think they would have let CM Punk carry on with his pipebomb for as long as he did before cutting off the mic?
They might tell guys to ad-lib and talk about whatever they want but the company knows roughly what will transpire. |
08-24-2016, 01:22 PM | #69 |
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If that was a work it was Brilliant. If it was a shoot I feel it is kinda of a dick move as its common knowledge Bryan didn't retire on his own accord.
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08-24-2016, 01:24 PM | #70 |
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Miz will probably lose the IC belt to Konnor* now
*most embarrassing guy on SD roster I could think of to lose to. Suppose he could face a local jobber.. |
08-24-2016, 01:37 PM | #71 |
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There's a reason for that, though. It's not like he just dropped off the face of the earth for no reason. Dude had to have outside help from The Rock in the main event of WM 27 to defeat Cena and keep the WWE Championship. That's not the way to end a WM main event EVER.
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08-24-2016, 01:39 PM | #72 | |
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08-24-2016, 02:06 PM | #73 |
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Gotta be worked, cause WWE just posted this as well....
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08-24-2016, 02:17 PM | #74 |
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08-24-2016, 02:40 PM | #75 |
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08-24-2016, 02:43 PM | #76 |
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08-24-2016, 02:54 PM | #77 |
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You know I wonder if he does really try to find a way back.
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08-24-2016, 06:55 PM | #78 |
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08-24-2016, 08:22 PM | #80 |
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