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View Poll Results: Who is the better wrestler?
Kurt Angle 21 48.84%
"The Heart Break Kid" Shawn Michaels 22 51.16%
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Old 12-17-2016, 06:39 PM   #41
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Old 12-17-2016, 06:50 PM   #42
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I got what he was saying but it was a difficult process. Shawns been the same since he split from Sherri in 93 if you exclude the dx years.
But fixed.

Whatever that meant.
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Old 12-17-2016, 06:54 PM   #43
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Oh wait. He edited KIRA's post to say "music" instead of "repertoire". So he's saying his MUSIC, not his repertoire hasn't changed since 1991 except in 1993 when Sherri wasn't singing in it and when he was using the DX theme. Though I'm not sure why he felt the need to make that point as a rebuttal to KIRA's post.

STD is confusing as shit.
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Old 12-17-2016, 08:15 PM   #44
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I still havemt voted...if there isnt a tie situation i might not
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Old 12-17-2016, 08:58 PM   #45
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I almost didn't vote destor. To be completely honest I had to pull the trigger because I think Kurt deserves to be in the hall of fame even if he has to go through hbk. If this had not been for the hof I would have either abstained or Might have even gone with HBK.
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Old 12-17-2016, 10:37 PM   #46
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Really difficult choice. I'll think on it somemore...

Ring work is a wash
Mic work is a wash
HBM in 9y almost tanked the company as a top guy so his post 02 stuff at the gate i think is a wash

I think it comes down to legacy. Im not sure which will have the biggest impact. 10 years post retirements whos work will still be shaping the business...i dunno.
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Old 12-18-2016, 01:21 AM   #47
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Really difficult choice. I'll think on it somemore...

Ring work is a wash
Mic work is a wash
HBM in 9y almost tanked the company as a top guy so his post 02 stuff at the gate i think is a wash

I think it comes down to legacy. Im not sure which will have the biggest impact. 10 years post retirements whos work will still be shaping the business...i dunno.
Honestly they'll both be shaping the business that far down the line in my opinion. At least when it comes to influencing new wrestlers. Think about how many guys those two have inspired already. Their styles have both become general archetypes in the industry.

Now in terms of who the fans will remember, well, that one is a bit more one sided. Honestly I think 10 years from now Kurt will be forgotten by most of the fanbase barring some miraculous return to the WWE before he packs it up. HBK is cemented by WWE as one of the most legendary guys in professional wrestling. He's mentioned all the time, and unless he pulls a Hogan or Benoit I don't see that changing. Meanwhile the most we've seen of Kurt from WWE in recent years is his involvement in John Cena's premier. I'd argue that most kids watching today wouldn't know who Kurt is, but almost all of them would know of HBK. It's not really fair, but that's how it goes.
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Old 12-18-2016, 01:27 AM   #48
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It wasn't HBK that tanked the company. It was Vince trying to lower the WWF to a G level mirroring Disney.

If anything HBK and his attitude is what saved the company. He just didn't get to enjoy any of it because he literally broke his FREAKING back for the WWF.
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Old 12-18-2016, 07:32 AM   #49
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Kurt Angle has intensity, integrity and intelligence. Michaels has the clap and prob AIDS.
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Old 12-18-2016, 08:25 AM   #50
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I think it comes down to legacy. Im not sure which will have the biggest impact. 10 years post retirements whos work will still be shaping the business...i dunno.
I think HBK is definitely more iconic. Angle was only in WWE for 6 years. HBK's SECOND career post-back injury during that same time (which is widely considered his best years) lasted a couple years longer than Angle's entire WWE run. If that was all they had to offer, HBK left a bigger mark with his WrestleMania main events, his Jericho feud, etc.

Add to that him being a part of the beginning of the attitude era with DX and being considered the best wrestler in the world in the years before that and it all puts him far ahead of Angle in the legacy department. The best Angle could do to try to catch up is his Samoa Joe feud in TNA which was great... but TNA can only add so much to someone's legacy.
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Old 12-18-2016, 08:44 AM   #51
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Shawn is better.

My vote would likely be different if Kurt didn't decide to join a piece of Shit company 8yrs ago.
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Old 12-18-2016, 11:29 AM   #52
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Forgot to vote last round, so I should probably vote this round.

Two of the very best here. These two are very equal in a lot of ways.

I think the difference for me is that at no point in time did I hate Kurt Angle. Whereas before his back injury I kind of hated Shawn Michaels because he seemed like such a genuine "douchebag"........ Realized he was talented, but at the same time he just rubbed me the wrong way a lot of the time......

So for that reason, I am giving Kurt Angle the slight nod over him.
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Old 12-18-2016, 12:04 PM   #53
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Really difficult choice. I'll think on it somemore...

Ring work is a wash
Mic work is a wash
HBM in 9y almost tanked the company as a top guy so his post 02 stuff at the gate i think is a wash

I think it comes down to legacy. Im not sure which will have the biggest impact. 10 years post retirements whos work will still be shaping the business...i dunno.
I think legacy will all be HBK. Not just from his time being active, but he already helped train one of the most exciting guys in modern wrestling in Daniel Bryan and is now training down in NXT.
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Old 12-18-2016, 02:28 PM   #54
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Old 12-18-2016, 02:28 PM   #55
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Old 12-18-2016, 02:41 PM   #56
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is 2002 on called Heartbreak Man?
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Old 12-18-2016, 02:43 PM   #57
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is 2002 on called Heartbreak Man?
Jeritron and I had this gag about the flair match. To be the man you had to beat the man. So after he beat flair we decided he was HBM from then on.
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Old 12-18-2016, 07:34 PM   #58
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If Angle goes in we are closer to having Bryan/CM Punk and who wants to delay that!!!
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Punk is not the IWC darling he used to be. No way he loses to Bryan. I do not look forward to that matchup.
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Old 12-18-2016, 07:55 PM   #61
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If Angle goes in we are closer to having Bryan/CM Punk and who wants to delay that!!!
If a single person lists that their reason for voting was because they wanted to see that match i wont do it
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Old 12-19-2016, 08:27 AM   #63
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Old 12-19-2016, 11:04 AM   #64
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We've got a tight race here. 21-21 with just 4 hours to go
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Old 12-19-2016, 02:11 PM   #66
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Old 12-19-2016, 02:17 PM   #67
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Old 12-19-2016, 02:38 PM   #68
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Old 12-19-2016, 02:59 PM   #69
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I dunno who broke the tie but holy shit
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Was almost hoping for a draw for Angle to go in during the next round and then have the HBK run, but this is the right result.
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Old 12-19-2016, 04:00 PM   #73
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Old 12-19-2016, 08:54 PM   #74
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If the two ever had another match, I would have wanted it to be booked this way. Neck and neck, angles athleticism edging him in front late, late on, only for HBK to come back with a last ditch super kick, falling on a prone Kurt.

The two best of all time imo, but def feels right HBK winning. He has two truly legendary runs, a more varied and storied career and I always felt there was more emotion in his matches, particularly in his second run.
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Old 12-20-2016, 07:30 AM   #75
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Old 12-21-2016, 02:27 PM   #77
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