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Old 02-09-2016, 05:47 AM   #1
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The Worst Gimmick Match Concept Ever
So, for this week's podcast, we're going to evaluate different gimmick match concepts throughout history in search of the one that, whether it be through its convoluted nature, a propensity for generating absolutely awful matches, or being a concept that is utterly horrid on paper and in practice, is the absolute worst ever devised, and as always, we're looking for your opinions on the subject.

Which match concept did you dread the most or feel was utterly useless, and why do you feel it's the worst one ever put on a wrestling show? You can be as broad or obscure as you like in your nomination, and as always, the best contributions will be read on the show and you'll be credited accordingly.

So what's your pick?

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Old 02-09-2016, 06:38 AM   #2
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Punjabi prison match

Not only was the guy it was actually made for not in the thing but you've created a bamboo stick kennel from hell....I mean why?
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Old 02-09-2016, 06:44 AM   #3
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Buried alive matches were awful.

Although it was Takers Gimmick match he only won one of the five matches which just makes them stupid.
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Hell in a Kenell was great so no one say that. Puppy power! What did suck though was the Tuxedo match between The Fink and Harvey Whippleman. Even the Fink's sex appeal couldn't save this!
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That's not PG JimmyMess.
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Reverse Battle Royal !?!?!

King of the Mountain !?!?!

Electric Cage Match !?!?
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Feast or Fired. The idea of a winner being fired is ass backwards.
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Feast or Fired. The idea of a winner being fired is ass backwards.

Especially when it had ACTUAL consequences...... definitely fucked up.


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Chairs Match is pretty dumb. Are chairs the only foreign objects that are legal? The idea of someone getting DQ'd in a Chairs Match is upsetting. You're better off doing No DQ and just using chairs creatively.
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Never liked the Stretcher Match. Seems really dumb to have to push your opponent across a line to win after you've "incapacitated" him.
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Old 02-09-2016, 08:12 AM   #12
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Kennel From Hell match. I mean, it was such an embarrassing abomination of a match that WWE thankfully has never attempted another. Definitely one for the "What were they THINKING?!" files.
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This beats everything, ESWs AIDs infected needle match. There used to be a video of the match but I think it got pulled or lost its hosting

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But it wasn’t just the combatants that set the unique tone, the matches themselves were… well… “insanely extreme” as well. WWF had coffin matches… ESW had “Box of AIDS-Infected Needles” Matches. And the one that got them the most industry “heat” wasn’t just because of the gore involved, but because this was back in a time before wrestlers gave interviews that let reporters in on the joke. At the notorious “Exposing The Business: Breaking Kayfabe” show they had a “Blade Rope” match, where the wrestlers (both of whom had already been rendered “HIV-Positive” from previous death matches) did their thing in a ring wrapped with razor blades that dangled from the ropes. The object wasn’t to use them to destroy the opponent but to get them and openly gig, or “blade” themselves. This was made all the more entertaining by Miss Von Erich, who kept trying to steal the weapons to cut her own wrists with them
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Punjabi Prison for sure.

I wonder how anyone could even see what the hell was going on inside of it.
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I was there, and it was very easy to see what was happening. More so than what was happening, the rules were more confusing to most as far as when doors opened/didn't open, etc.

That was at the Great Merican Bash where nearly every fecking match was changed because of elevated enzymes in the livers of nearly all the top names - BOBBY LASHLEY!
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Was it TNA or WCW that did an Electric Chair match?
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Was it TNA or WCW that did an Electric Chair match?
....Chamber of horrors?
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Pretty much agree with everything that has already been posted.

How about the King of the Road match?
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Reverse Battle Royal !?!?!

King of the Mountain!??!

Electric Cage Match !?!?
I like King of the Mountian matches, Its the Dixie Land match that's retarded. Must exit a cage and then carry a ladder to the top of the ramp and retrieve the belt.
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Why is that named after Dixie carter? Is that her specialty match?
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TNA do seem to try and outdo themselves in terms of shitarsery when it comes to gimmick matches, King of the Mountain is up there in terms of regular ones, complete clusterfuckery, posted in another thread about the one I saw a week ago.

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-a KOTM match where Eric Young pins Jimmy Havoc outside the ring, which is missed by about 95% of the live crowd, as well as Jeremy Borash who is announcing the pinfalls to the crowd/audience as they happen. 5 minutes later, Eric Young climbs the ladder, hooks the title and wins the match. If you know how the clusterfuck that is KOTM works, you need to pin somebody in the match to be eligible to hang the title to win the match. So obviously most of the crowd had no fucking idea what was going on. Not to mention it looked like the referee forgot to let Big Damo out of the penalty box gimmick in time for the finishing sequence so Eric Young spends half an hour climbing the ladder alone and then with no suspense whatsoever just hangs the title as Big Damo shows up about a week later and just kind of falls over at the bottom of the ladder.
I think Feast or Fired is fine in theory, the whole point of the match is the risk/reward involved in terms of potentially getting fired, that's what they try to build the drama from, the basis for the promos etc, it's hardly a singles match where the winner gets fired (see: Winner Leaves Town in $5 Wrestling, which was wonderful) I just don't recall them ever executing it very well. Kennel from Hell & Punjabi Prison were obviously rotten. Those late WCW ones like the San Francisco 49ers match, the Judy Bagwell/Viagra on a Pole matches were ridiculous but hilarious, like everything else in WCW at the time. Plenty of exploding/crocodile/floating-in-a-pool/piranha/light-tube/bomb/glass/wrap the world in barbed wire and cover it in nail board matches in places like FMW, W*ING etc but I don't think they were ever supposed to be good and people were there specifically to see that stuff.
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Why is that named after Dixie carter? Is that her specialty match?
I guess, Magnus won on e when he became TNA World Heavyweight Champion.
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Any strap or chain match where you touch all four corners.
Ambulance matches are pretty stupid
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I enjoy Boiler room brawls but the concept is pretty dumb, why not run out of the room ASAP.
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The Brawl for All concept was dumb.
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Old 02-09-2016, 12:49 PM   #29
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Lol I friggen loved Brawl for All.
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I liked it too, they should have done something with Bart Gunn after he won though even if it was just building him up just a bit so someone else could get over on him.
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Old 02-09-2016, 01:03 PM   #31
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Old 02-09-2016, 02:49 PM   #32
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Old 02-09-2016, 02:59 PM   #33
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Old 02-09-2016, 03:48 PM   #34
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Kennel From Hell for me, followed by Reverse battle royals.... I may one of the few that actually likes the concept of "King Of The Mountain" (it shouldn't have its own championship, but that's for another thread)
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Chamber of Horrors match.

Match was really bad overall and so was the gimmick of needing to electrocute someone in order to win. Looked way too cheesy when the ending happened.
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The best gimmick match concept is an ERAG match.
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One time in the e-fed I used to play, I won the right to book a card, and filled it with match stips like "First to pick up my laundry wins", "Best sculpture of my likeness wins", "the one to sell the most of my merch wins", "Best sonnet written about me wins"..... etc....

That has nothing to do with anything real, though.

Kennel from Hell is probably the right answer to this question.
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Old 02-09-2016, 05:30 PM   #39
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Anything that isn't a cage match (you can include hell in a cell as a cage match), Death Match/Last Man Standing, I Quit match, Ladder Match or No Holds Barred match.

When you add any gimmick beyond that, it is just ridiculous. I know the dudleyz and hardys had a great tables match at the rumble in 2000 for instance, but the stipulation is fucking idiotic. A guy goes through the table and he loses? What does that do for anyone? It's almost completely up to chance.

A Casket match? Okay well let's just murder fuck kayfabe and make our product look as dumb as possible.

An inferno match? What the absolute hell is that? Why are pro wrestlers on the biggest stage lighting themselves on fire?

A buried alive match?... oh wait three of these four stips have to do with the Undertaker and they're fucking stupid.

When you book a gimmick match that hinders the bell-to-bell of a match in benefits nobody and makes no sense. How can these issues not just be solved at the start by a standard wrestling match and if the feud gets heated up, a classic gimmick match like I listed in the first paragraph? Nothing needs to be on a pole, nobody needs to be stuffed in a casket and people should only lose when they actually lose... not from falling through or off of something, or bleeding.

God wrestling is dumb sometimes.
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