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Old 11-02-2015, 10:11 AM   #201
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I think WWE should have created 2 WWE Network plans. $9.99 for regular streaming w/o PPVs and $12.99 for PPVs included.

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I no longer record Raw and I've cancelled my network subscription but catch highlights on wwe.com and YouTube because I don't enjoy the product as much anymore. There is no way to measure the people that consume content the same way as me, so it's a pointless conversation.
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Old 11-02-2015, 10:13 AM   #202
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I think WWE should have created 2 WWE Network plans. $9.99 for regular streaming w/o PPVs and $12.99 for PPVs included.
SOMEONE is probably going to tell me that 12.99 is a bad idea because its over the 10 dollar mark etc.
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Old 11-02-2015, 10:39 AM   #203
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10% of $10.4 million is $1.04 million. Del Rio is getting paid $1.45. That's actually more than 10%. My bad.
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Old 11-02-2015, 10:41 AM   #204
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SOMEONE is probably going to tell me that 12.99 is a bad idea because its over the 10 dollar mark etc.
Right now they don't want to have multiple price points. It's easier to be able to advertise "$9.99"

At some point I'm sure they will raise prices, but I think the business model works better at one price point for the whole thing.
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Old 11-02-2015, 10:57 AM   #205
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I think they should have started with multi price points.
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Old 11-02-2015, 01:59 PM   #206
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No way should they have multiple price points that regulate how much of the content you can view. Look at Netflix for example. The multiple price points govern how many devices can stream simultaneously and what not; they don't lock out content based on which type of account you have. And considering they are the gold standard of streaming services I'd imagine their approach is probably the one to go with, at least for the time being.

I just don't see that many people being interested in WWE Network without the PPV option. If they added a second tier at 12.99 or whatever it would be that included the PPVs while the standard 9.99 did not.....then I feel you'd lose subscribers and that everyone would feel like it is a scam just to raise rates while giving the appearance of a choice.
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Old 11-02-2015, 02:30 PM   #207
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I just don't see that many people being interested in WWE Network without the PPV option. If they added a second tier at 12.99 or whatever it would be that included the PPVs while the standard 9.99 did not.....then I feel you'd lose subscribers and that everyone would feel like it is a scam just to raise rates while giving the appearance of a choice.
There would be some sort of drop of if initially it was $12.99 for PPVs instead of $9.99. But I think the extra $3 would make up for the low percentage of people who wouldn't subscribe.
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There would be some sort of drop of if initially it was $12.99 for PPVs instead of $9.99. But I think the extra $3 would make up for the low percentage of people who wouldn't subscribe.
I have no evidence for my claims, BTW
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Lol you completely missed my point. Don't worry about it.
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Old 11-12-2015, 08:59 AM   #210
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Third hour this week fell below 3 millions viewers.

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Old 11-12-2015, 07:02 PM   #211
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Never good to see a big decline, but I'm sure the fact that it was taped had an impact. I usually dont like reading RAW spoilers when they are overseas, but in this case I was eager to get them because I wanted to see how the tournament was laid out. Of course I'm just one person.

the first hour was higher than last week, and when you take the average its not really a huge decline. And at the end of the day, even the third hour being so low, that hour was still only behind two shows in terms of viewership on Cable on Monday.

MNF was down week over week by 1 million viewers. Which means RAW's overall viewership declined by about 2% WoW and MNF viewership was down 8% WoW.

Like I said, not great to go down, and maybe 3 million is some kind of panic number, but looks like people were just tuning TV out this week.
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Old 11-12-2015, 08:50 PM   #212
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The Monday Night Football numbers were down because the matchup was the drizzling shits...

Raw had the WWE champion for the past 7 months being stripped of the title and the "intrigue" of a tournament for a new champion beginning.

But it was just because people decided to not watch TV. Yes. It was TV's fault. Because faith in McMahon.
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Old 11-12-2015, 09:55 PM   #213
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For some comparisons, last year's UK Raw show had around a million more people watching for the 3rd hour. Almost a million more also watching for the average viewership.

Drop this week was pretty large even by taped RAW show comparisons.
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Old 11-12-2015, 09:56 PM   #214
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Well that's only because of something to do with what the internet fans wanted causing a rating's drop. I'm sure of it.
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:07 AM   #215
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As usual you guys can't debate an actual point.

MNF matchup two weeks ago was nothing to write home about. This week was bad as well, and the number dropped more significantly than WWE.

We're any of you guys more interested than normal in getting the spoilers? I was. As a result I watched less of the show because I knew the outcome. Rather than saying whether or not you were more or less interested in spoilers than a run of the mill UK show, you ignore the point. Cool way to debate.

And even if you don't agree with any of that, the number was only down a couple percent week over week.
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It's quite obvious that peoples attention spans can't be kept glued to one tv channel for 190 minutes straight anymore unless it's football.
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I'm just tired of the NFL and WWE going PG/PC, that's why I don't consume every second of their events. There are other modes of entertainment that don't have a restrain and people are figuring it out.
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That and the whole layout to a Monday night. Survivor Series being dedicated to Undertaker is pretty choice though
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Raw dropped under 3 million viewers last night.

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Probably had something to do with DirecTV DVRs not recording Raw, didn't notice it wasn't recording til 9:30
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Or people saying "fuck this noise" after watching/reading about Survivor Series.
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Probably had something to do with DirecTV DVRs not recording Raw, didn't notice it wasn't recording til 9:30
The 3rd hour fell to 2.7 million people. I wouldn't be surprised if it keeps falling until they bring Lesnar back.
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Old 11-24-2015, 05:14 PM   #231
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I for one am shocked, shocked I tell you that Sheamus/Roman Reigns are not ratings super magnets
Neither can draw. I'm sure they are trying to get Cena back ASAP because at least he would bring them above 3 million although not by much.
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Old 11-24-2015, 05:16 PM   #232
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Or people saying "fuck this noise" after watching/reading about Survivor Series.
Could be but really Sheamus was their best option. Did not want to see Reigns holding the title trying to be John Cena on the mic. A lot more people would have tuned in had Ambrose won the title.
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They don't want to give Ambrose the ball and not being able to elevate newer stars is going to cause ratings to keep falling until Royal Rumble when they typicality rebound. The question is how much lower can they go before Vince thinks about trying something different than what he's been doing in not elevating certain talent. Ambrose may not be able to draw at first, but he's not been given the proper time to be a household name.
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Old 11-24-2015, 05:26 PM   #234
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I for one am shocked, shocked I tell you that Sheamus/Roman Reigns are not ratings super magnets
Sheamus has a really bad history of being a ratings drainer especially as champion or the focus of a show. Was one of the big reasons why people complained at him winning the MitB case since it was more likely nothing good would happen in the end.

When quarterly or segment breakdowns used to be revealed, him and Orton were almost always the big droppers in terms of stars. Think Sheamus still owns the record for worst segment drop at almost a million a few years ago.
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WWE's Survivor Series, particularly the event's finish, was widely met with negative reviews and utter disappointment from observers. Not only did the company put forth mundane matches that failed to captivate the audience -- those in attendance in Atlanta and others watching around the world -- it replicated a clunky finish from a pay-per-view just one year earlier. The end result -- a new World Heavyweight Champion in Sheamus that no one desires to see as part of the main event picture -- left many shaking their heads.

Count former WWE champion and one of the company's most popular performers this century, Mick Foley, among those displeased with WWE's creative direction. In a 400+ word Facebook post, Foley said matter-of-factly that he is "on the verge of becoming a former WWE fan."

I'm tired of being told through Raw, Smackdown and PPV's that WWE superstars I have rooted for - from Ziggler to Cesaro to Kevin Owens aren't top stars - no matter how strongly crowd reaction seems to disagree. I'm tired of NXT stars getting their big "break" in WWE, just to be treated like jokes.
Foley specifically notes how WWE has completely failed to capitalize not only on the male wrestlers drawing positive reactions from the crowd but also female performers who are promoted well on the company's NXT developmental show but hardly given any time to "get over" with the crowd on major WWE shows like Monday Night Raw and Smackdown.

"I think I can get used to watching football games on Monday night again," wrote Foley, referring to his changing the channel from Raw this past week. "If I leave, it's not just one disgruntled former fan; finding something else to do on Monday nights. Instead, losing a long-time, die-hard fan like me might well be an indication of a larger exodus from WWE."

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Yeah, but what successful wrestling territory has CBS Sports ever booked? Or Mick Foley? Or that 10% drop? This is the most successful revenue year in the WWE's history, and we all know the WWE Network will definitely be en vogue for years to come.
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This is somehow Cesaro's fault for being boring.
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