01-30-2016, 09:22 PM | #41 |
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HHH vs Dean Ambrose Title for Title Roman Reigns vs Brock Lesnar Kevin Owens vs The Undertaker The Rock and Usos vs The New Day vs Wyatt Family (-Strowman) vs League of Nations (sans Barrett) Divas Championship Charlotte vs Sasha Banks vs Paige vs Brie Bella Elimination Style US Title Ladder Match Kalisto vs Neville vs AJ Styles vs Jericho Stardust vs Steven Amell part 2 Andre Battle Royal on a preshow |
01-30-2016, 09:22 PM | #42 |
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Not crazy, I really dont see the appeal in him either other than hes big. Dont think hes ready for a match with Taker or Lesner at this moment and Big Show would be a perfect fit for him I think. I might be crazy to though.
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01-30-2016, 10:21 PM | #43 |
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Despite it being a 4 hour show they never seem to do more than 6 or 7 matches on the main card anymore. This isn't the card I WANT to see, but it's my attempt at a realistic prediction of one:
--- WWE World Heavyweight Championship: Roman Reigns vs. Triple H (C) Brock Lesnar vs. Bray Wyatt The Undertaker vs. Braun Strowman WWE Intercontinental Championship: Chris Jericho vs. Dean Ambrose (C) WWE Divas Championship: Becky Lynch vs. Sasha Banks vs. Charlotte (C) 6-Man Tag Team Match: The Cosmic Wasteland vs. Goldust, R-Truth, and Stephen Amell WWE United States Championship Ladder Match: Kalisto (C) vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. Neville vs. Alberto Del Rio vs. Sheamus vs. Kevin Owens vs. AJ Styles Pre-Show Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal: Adam Rose, Big E, Big Show, Bo Dallas, Bubba Ray Dudley, Curtis Axel, D-Von Dudley, Damien Sandow, Darren Young, Erick Rowan, Fandango, Heath Slater, Jack Swagger, Jey Uso, Jimmy Uso, Kane, King Barrett, Kofi Kingston, Luke Harper, Mark Henry, The Miz, Rusev, Ryback, Titus O'Neil, Tyler Breeze, Xavier Woods, Zack Ryder, and any NXT guys they want to toss in to build up the numbers. Pre-Show 4-Way Tag Team Match for the WWE Tag Team Championships: The Dudley Boyz vs. Luke Harper & Erick Rowan vs. The Usos vs. The New Day (C) --- It's weird to put The Ascension on the WrestleMania card...is The Cosmic Wasteland even still a thing? Regardless, the Amell rumors are running high right now and I just can't see him working a one on one match for some reason. I guess you could shoehorn 2 other heels with Stardust but it would feel weird. |
01-30-2016, 11:08 PM | #44 |
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Sting would be perfect to pair with Amell if he could go. Stings a vigilante, the Arrows a vigialnte then add Neville. Really needed The Hurricane back when they were going with the comic book thing with Neville.
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01-31-2016, 11:32 AM | #45 | |
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01-31-2016, 02:57 PM | #46 |
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Oh they definitely shouldn't be. I'm just not sure what match to cut off from the main card (assuming the Amell rumors are true at least, no chance he wouldn't be on the main show). Recent history supports the Tag Title match being one of the matches assigned to the pre-show.
They could also just have 8 matches on the real show but WWE have been pretty poor in the area of time management the last several WrestleManias. Just last year they bumped the battle royal to the pre-show only a day or two before the event because they realized they hadn't budgeted enough time for The Rock/Rousey segment and the musical performance. And there will almost certainly be another lengthy non-wrestling segment at WM32, likely involving The Rock or Austin (or both). |
01-31-2016, 08:35 PM | #47 |
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Pretty realistic card, Vito. I think they put the Tag Titles on the main show, and maybe instead of Goldust & R-Truth, they put Neville with Amell and have Stardust team up with The Miz.
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01-31-2016, 08:48 PM | #48 |
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Very possible, although I'd find it to be a bit of a shame to use Neville in that kind of spot if there does end up being a ladder match on the show.
Maybe Stardust and Miz vs. Amell and Goldust? Who am I kidding...I just want the Rhodes Boys to get their WrestleMania match against each other before Goldust retires, even if it's shoehorned into a tag team bout. |
01-31-2016, 08:58 PM | #49 |
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I guess that would work. I feel like Stardust and Goldust's stock is below WrestleMania at the moment though. If they are going to feud, I think they need to make it really mean something.
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01-31-2016, 09:43 PM | #50 |
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My Spidey senses tell me New Day will have a bigger role on the show than a throwaway multi team match.
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02-01-2016, 08:37 AM | #51 |
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A shot at a realistic card:
WWE World Heavyweight Championship Triple H (c) (w/ Vince McMahon) vs. Roman Reigns (w/ The Rock) Brock vs. Bray: The Beast vs. The Eater of Worlds Brock Lesnar (w/ Paul Heyman) vs. Bray Wyatt The Dead Man vs. The Reaper The Undertaker vs. Luke Harper New Day segment The New Day try to "take over" WrestleMania somehow, only for Stone Cold Steve Austin to come out and spray them with beer and give them Stunners or something. Triple Threat Match for the Divas Championship Charlotte (c) (w/ Ric Flair) vs. Becky Lynch vs. Sasha Banks The Best in the World? Chris Jericho vs. AJ Styles Intercontinental Championship Dean Ambrose (c) (w/ Renee Young) vs. Rusev (w/ Lana) Ladder Match for the United States Championship Kalisto (c) vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. Goldust vs. Kevin Owens vs. Neville vs. R-Truth vs. Sami Zayn vs. Stardust WWE Tag Team Championship The New Day (c) vs. The Usos Kickoff: Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal Adam Rose vs. Alex Riley vs. Apollo Crews vs. Austin Aries vs. Big Show vs. Bo Dallas vs. Braun Strowman vs. Bubba Ray Dudley vs. Bull Dempsey vs. Curtis Axel vs. D-Von Dudley vs. David Otunga vs. Damien Sandow vs. Darren Young vs. Diego vs. El Torito vs. Erick Rowan vs. Fandango vs. Fernando vs. Heath Slater vs. Hornswoggle vs. Jack Swagger vs. Kane vs. Konnor vs. Mark Henry vs. The Miz vs. Rhyno vs. Ryback vs. Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Titus O'Neil vs. Tyler Breeze vs. Viktor vs. Zack Ryder Last edited by Mr. Nerfect; 02-01-2016 at 08:55 AM. |
02-01-2016, 08:49 AM | #52 |
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* Stephen Amell, if he's at WrestleMania, makes his presence felt during the Ladder Match, costing Stardust any shot at winning the thing. The Ladder Match itself is a bit thrown together, but they like putting on a match like this. You could just run bully Kevin Owens trying to win the US Title, but having Sami Zayn in there builds off their history (I can see them wrestling at Fastlane). You can put Goldust & R-Truth in there, and that adds some veteran presence, puts a black guy in the match, allows the Rhodes brothers to interact, plays of the current shtick between Goldie and Truth, etc. Ziggler is in there as the workhorse, and Neville is there to do cool stuff too. If Sheamus is healthy, maybe they bump Zayn for him and have Zayn in the Battle Royal? Or they could do a 9-man. I could also see either Kane or Mark Henry being added, just so there are fewer monsters in the Battle Royal and a larger guy in this.
* The Rock and Vince are used to try and bolster the main event. Shawn Michaels makes an appearance here too. The Rock and Ambrose are used to counteract Vince and HBK. * I know the rumor is Taker vs. Strowman, but that lacks a lot of imagination. And it's going to need a lot of imagination to be watchable. I can see Taker being smart and asking to work with Harper in order to make him look like a beast moving forward. There will be time for Strowman, who I think they give the Battle Royal to. * Bray Wyatt goes into his match against Brock Lesnar alone -- he's got something to prove. This also allows Brock to defeat Bray without cannibalizing the entire Wyatt Family. This marks the beginning of the Wyatt face turn. * Jericho vs. Styles seems like the more natural feud out of the possibilities for Jericho. Once Ambrose is out of the immediate title picture, I can see Vince trying to bring the brute back out of Rusev and dangling the IC Title in front of him. It'd be a simple story between Ambrose and Rusev, and Lana and Rusev can be bullies to Renee which puts her into Dean's corner -- which will capture the hearts of people, I'm sure. It seems to me a better story than Jericho vs. Ambrose, which so far lacks any sort of heat or trajectory. * I can't see The Usos missing out on WrestleMania this year. I think they'll get their eventual Tag Title win, even if the crowd revolts, and I think that sets off The New Day for that segment with Austin later in the show. |
02-01-2016, 09:37 AM | #53 |
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Can't foresee Rusev getting anywhere NEAR the IC title or really any kind of title shot by WM due to probably still being in the doghouse over letting news leak to TMZ or wherever about him and Lana becoming engaged.
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02-01-2016, 09:38 AM | #54 |
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What a funny business, wrestling is. In any normal working environment being punished for GETTING ENGAGED would be an HR nightmare
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02-01-2016, 03:05 PM | #55 |
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When he wasn't in the Dog house he jobbed 4 straight times to Cena, nothing is really different.
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02-01-2016, 03:15 PM | #56 |
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Can you imagine how much it must have sucked for a new guy like Rusev to work with John Cena at Mania? He must have the patience of a saint to put up with that booking.
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02-01-2016, 03:19 PM | #57 |
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I agree, I also think Brock Lesnar should have lost to Angle at Wrestlemania 19 and 3 straight times after. That's how you make new stars.
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02-01-2016, 03:35 PM | #58 |
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Rusev should have won @ Mania.
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02-01-2016, 03:41 PM | #59 |
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Rusev could have been something now he's just like 90% of the roster.
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02-01-2016, 06:03 PM | #61 |
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Is RVD still on the roster or did he retire? RVD vs Roman Reigns would be pretty cool.
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Noid I think your card is pretty spot on. I love the idea of Harper vs Taker and it works if Strowman take the the Battle Royal. They would have to push Harper really hard though and it doesn't seem like that is really happening.
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02-02-2016, 03:41 AM | #63 |
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John Cena beating Rusev at Mania was fine. But Rusev should have sold the lost and disappeared for a bit after that. Having him lose to Cena at the next two PPVs was dumb.
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If Sheamus and Del Rio need to be included in WrestleMania 32, then I would probably make the following changes:
* Luke Harper doesn't face The Undertaker. Instead he enters (and likely wins) the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal. Sheamus is selected as Taker's opponent. Say what you want about Sheamus -- he's a bigger guy that can work and the crowd will be all over him in Texas. His current place on the pecking order seems about right too. * Del Rio wins the US Title back at Fastlane. Kalisto wants a rematch, but Del Rio makes him put his mask on the line. There's no way John Cena is missing WrestleMania, and if he shows up, this seems like the logical place for him to appear. Cena backs Kalisto in his outing against Del Rio, where the US Title again changes hands, and Kalisto defends his mask for the first time in WWE. I don't like the idea of Kalisto ascending by only beating the guy that beat him and that he has already beaten in the past, but I could realistically see it happening. * Everyone in the Ladder Match enters the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal. I'm thinking that maybe it takes place on the main show this year, and that Jericho vs. Styles might be the match they bump to the pre-show, in order to have Styles "pay his Mania dues" and give something with presence a spot there to make it worth watching. |
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02-02-2016, 12:49 PM | #67 |
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If your character is a big, intimidating beast and you lose constantly, it turns your character into shit and thus, you aren't interesting anymore and you don't get over. If your character is a creepy cult leader who gets in people's heads and cuts scary, ominous promos and you end up losing constantly, your character isn't taken seriously anymore and you don't get over.
(Here comes the same argument about Rollins that you refused to understand after it was explained to you like 5 times...) Facing Cena (Or Taker. Or Lesnar. Or The Rock...) and losing a competitive match to him is great. It makes it seem like you're at least capable of possibly beating the top guy. You can still stay credible. You should be fine with that. When you have the same match with the same outcome repeatedly afterward, any thought that you could still be the better man is gone. That's bad. THAT'S the problem. Get it now? Last edited by #1-norm-fan; 02-02-2016 at 01:10 PM. |
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Exactly. Not only did he lose to Cena, he lost two more times, consecutively. It is a foundation of the business that "both guys get over" regardless of the W/L - Rusev did NOT get over with his feud with Cena, and at present is bordering on "comedy act" with the whole TV champion schtick. I still feel that he and Swagger could have had a really hot feud that could have went somewhere for BOTH guys. |
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02-02-2016, 01:16 PM | #69 |
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Yeah, really missed an opportunity with Swagger. We the People thing is way over and a big match at Mania would have done both wonders. Instead Rusevs monster push was only to put Cena over more.
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02-02-2016, 02:03 PM | #70 |
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It doesn't help that at the time Cena was having competitive matches with EVERYBODY, due to his US open challenge
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02-02-2016, 02:05 PM | #71 |
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02-02-2016, 02:39 PM | #72 |
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I would love to see The Undertaker take on Rusev, that has potential to be a really good matchup. I also really want to see Alberto Del Rio get a spot to shine, and would enjoy him vs Taker. Sheamus, god I can't stand him so I really hope he doesn't rassle Taker but it would be a decent match.
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02-03-2016, 05:17 PM | #73 |
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Does anyone feel like they could surprise us and have Dean Ambrose win at Fastlane? Obviously Bray is going to prevent Brock from winning somehow. The pop at The Rumble when Ambrose and Triple H were left as the final two entrants was legit attitude era Austin level. Really what is the difference in sales if Dean Ambrose, a man who will wildly be cheered vs Triple H, or Roman Reigns who bound to probable X-Pac heat from the Wrestlemania crowd.
I'd then have Roman heading towards a heel run. He'd be paired up with AJ Styles for Wrestlemania. World Heavyweight Title Triple H vs Dean Ambrose The Undertaker vs John Cena Brock Lesnar vs Bray Wyatt Roman Reigns vs AJ Styles I don't put faith in that direction actually happening but I would love it. |
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Cena and Rusev could have worked together on house shows. Cena vs. Rusev for the US Title could have headlined them. But you don't need to bust the guy's mystique and drawing power by having him try and fail, try and fail, try and fail. |
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02-06-2016, 06:03 AM | #76 |
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I've got a feeling that Del Rio will win the US Title at Fastlane and then defend it against Kalisto in a Title vs. Mask match with John Cena in Kalisto's corner. If Cena can't wrestle Taker.
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02-06-2016, 10:40 AM | #77 |
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Another hypothetical WrestleMania card (less likely this time):
WWE World Heavyweight Championship Triple H (c) vs. Dean Ambrose WrestleMania 31 Main Event Rematch Brock Lesnar vs. Roman Reigns Please, Please, Please Do Us a Favor Match The Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels Triple Threat Match for the Divas Championship Charlotte (c) vs. Becky Lynch vs. Sasha Banks Tournament Finals for the vacant Intercontinental Championship Chris Jericho vs. AJ Styles Grudge Match Kevin Owens vs. Sami Zayn Fatal 4-Way Tag Team Match for the WWE Tag Team Championship The New Day (c) vs. Goldust & Cody Rhodes vs. The Miz & R-Truth vs. The Usos 8-Man Tag Team Match The League of Nations vs. The Wyatt Family United States Championship Kalisto (c) vs. Dolph Ziggler Kickoff: Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal Won by Ryback Kickoff: Divas Tag Team Match Paige & Natalya vs. Team BAD * R-Truth chooses The Miz as a tag team partner over Goldust, and the two beat-down Goldie until Cody Rhodes makes the save out of the Stardust character. Paige joins up with The Miz & R-Truth, with Nattie advising her against it, playing mother hen. Nattie & Paige team up to face The Usos' wife and her partner on the Kickoff. * The Battle Royal is the Battle Royal. The big stories are Big Show trying to repeat his win, The Social Outcasts working together and Mark Henry wanting to win in his homestate. Kane, The Dudleys and a few surprises can be thrown in there. I'm sure Kevin Nash wouldn't mind a WrestleMania pay day. Ryback wins, because he's the most over hoss-like guy you'd have in there. * Kalisto vs. Dolph Ziggler would be a fun choice for a WrestleMania opener. Dolph has never had a one-on-one match at Mania, and I think he'd go out of his way to tear it up. This would be a great way to showcase Kalisto, and the two only really need to have between 10 and 15 minutes to heat the crowd up. The story here is that Dolph wants to prove he can out-show Kalisto. * The League of Nations vs. The Wyatt Family is a Battle of the Brutes. Which faction is the most dominant in WWE? That's how it's sold anyway. Both sides are trying to earn favor with The Authority, with The Wyatt Family being the cooler and more "renegade" group of the two. Bray Wyatt earns the pinfall for his team here. * As I mentioned earlier: The Miz & R-Truth reform The Awesome Truth on the lead-in to WrestleMania. This leads to Cody Rhodes & Goldust getting back together. The Usos are thrown in because I can't imagine them not getting a Tag Team Title shot. The New Day are currently the champs. I guess you could run this with Stardust & Miz as a heel team against Goldust & Truth too. Whatever. * Kevin Owens is in the IC Title tournament that takes place heading into WrestleMania, but is cost a semi-finals match to either AJ Styles or Chris Jericho when Sami Zayn returns to the main roster. Zayn and Owens have a personal feud away from the title, and are given ample time to tear it up and establish themselves to crowds that may not have seen them before. * Dean Ambrose is only allowed to keep his shot at the World Heavyweight Title if he forfeits the IC Title heading into WrestleMania. Chris Jericho and AJ Styles are the four guys who make it to the finals. I would ideally like Jericho to be in full heel mode by this point. * The Triple Threat Match is between the three girls who came in to kick-start the "Divas Revolution" last year. They do a really special hype video for this one and treat it like a main event. * The Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels is set-up at Fastlane when HBK helps Bray Wyatt pin The Undertaker. Bray has gotten into HBK's head about his forced retirement at the hands of Undertaker -- well, at least convincing HBK that it was forced. Taker and HBK go at it in a third Mania match (hopefully another classic), with Bray watching from his chair at ringside. * Brock Lesnar and Roman Reigns cancel each other out at Fastlane allowing Dean Ambrose to clean up the scraps. Lesnar and Reigns have something to prove against each other, and Brock beats the piss out of Reigns at WrestleMania to try and get him over with the fans. * Dean Ambrose wins the main event at Fastlane in his homestate and is positioned as the hero the WWE wants heading into WrestleMania against Triple H -- who works his ass off to get Ambrose over as the top face -- at least until Seth Rollins is ready to return around SummerSlam. |
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To make it slightly more realistic, slip Bray Wyatt into Shawn Michaels' spot, cancel the 8-Man, and have the US Title match turned into a Ladder Match featuring Sheamus, Luke Harper, Dolph Ziggler, Kalisto, Kane, Alberto Del Rio, Neville and Rusev or something.
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02-06-2016, 10:50 AM | #79 |
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Supposedly Michaels was asked to be in the Royal Rumble match but he declined, stating he was happy in retirement. I wonder if he would do the same for a potential WrestleMania match against Taker. It might take Vince personally backing up a dumptruck full of money up to his ranch in San Antonio.
Not trying to doubt Michaels' abilities either but with him having not wrestled at all in 6 years, I'd be relatively shocked if he's able to step right in to 15-20+ minute marquee WrestleMania match. I know he's come back from a long layoff before but this layoff is 2 years longer and Michaels wasn't 50 years old then. Very interesting idea, though. I'm hoping Cena can work his magic to get cleared because I desperately want to see Taker vs. Cena at WrestleMania before Taker retires. |
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In the realm of completely unrealistic ideas for Taker's final match...The Undertaker confirms that WrestleMania 32 will be his last ride, and not one but two legends make returns on Raw to stake their claim for why they should be The Undertaker's final opponent.
The Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin. The Undertaker wins, and the next night on Raw Michaels and Austin both come out to congratulate Taker and then the whole locker room empties in a similar fashion to the treatment Ric Flair received after he retired. The Undertaker is announced immediately as the first member of the HOF class of 2017. None of the three participants in the match are seen on WWE programming again except for the annual HOF show, special Austin podcasts on the Network, etc. |