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Old 03-11-2014, 02:24 AM   #121
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Lol 66% of that post is still correct
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Old 03-11-2014, 02:41 AM   #122
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Daniel Bryan is slightly closer to being a franchise player than Chris Benoit was.
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Old 03-11-2014, 07:45 AM   #123
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Nobody tunes into the show after Raw though.
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Old 03-11-2014, 09:49 AM   #124
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The stupid "YES!" shit that is pretty over with the crowd?
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The ones that chant it must have an IQ of -47...it's annoying, plain and simple.
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Old 03-11-2014, 10:02 AM   #125
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about the Cena booing stuff (gonna go all science right now, well for #1 anyway):

1. booing is a much deeper sound than a cheer coming from anybody. 2,000 people booing (especially when it's mostly made up of 18-30 year old males) in a 10,000 people strong crowd is always going come across really quite loud. This doesn't mean it's a majority, half or any hugely significant number of people except for in certain situations (see: against Rock, in Chicago against Punk, in a "smart" city, the Mania crowd made up from across the world etc)

2. most of those booing Cena these days don't even know why they're doing it (check out everytime he does something unexpected/"cool" and check out the pops (worked) before some of them realize they're supposed to be booing, you know, because it's cool and stuff)

3. if John Cena was around in the Hogan era that you mention, he'd have been a monster. Vice versa if Hogan was just coming through today (he'd get "The Cena Pop")

4. the amount of merch he shifts pretty much speaks for itself in terms of just how popular he is. The vast majority of the people as far as I can see that boo Cena are internet/smart/wannabe smart/follow the crowd fans. WWE's paying audience in terms of live gates, merch, PPV buys etc is mostly made from the casual/non smart fan. The amount of casual male fans I come across who are Cena fans always "pleasantly" surprises me.

5. I'll admit, I'd love to see him turn heel, I've said for years that with the amount of ammunition/natural build he has for a heel turn, it could be incredible. But it has nothing to really do with listening to the crowds. What good does it do turning a guy heel just because small parts of the crowd want to regularly boo him, only for the next top guy to start getting booed by the same people because now he's the popular blue eye going up against what would probably be a "very cool" heel in John Cena? When it comes down to it, the boos don't really mean anything.



and I don't think you'll find anything from Gertner in this thread that says you can't or shouldn't do that
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Old 03-11-2014, 12:31 PM   #126
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Cena just did his 400th make a wish visit, kids idolize him and request him more than anyone. as long as the company has that going on theres no way on earth they are gonna turn him heel
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Old 03-11-2014, 12:42 PM   #127
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Cena just did his 400th make a wish visit, kids idolize him and request him more than anyone. as long as the company has that going on theres no way on earth they are gonna turn him heel
He doesn't want to turn heel, Vince doesn't want him to turn heel, merchandise sales don't want him to turn heel.

I have no problem with that, he's doing a lot of good in his position.
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Old 03-11-2014, 05:12 PM   #128
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Cena is the perfect wrestler. Kids buy his stuff and root for him to win and smarks/adults root for him to lose.
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Old 03-11-2014, 06:19 PM   #129
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I don't love how he's booked, but I do think most of the hate is undeserved. The one thing I wish they would let him do is sell after the match and even for a week or two. I thought he should have been kayfabe injured after his match with Lesnar, but WWE decided he needed to have Wolverine-like healing ability.

If he was given a beating that took, it would give him a bit more sympathy...not that it would solve the smark problem, but it'd make ME like him more.
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