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Old 04-08-2013, 02:50 AM   #43121
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My apologies...

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/john-ce...tling-wwe.html



SOON TO BE THE "SETH ROLLINS CONFERENCE ROOM" ONCE THIS CONSPIRACY GETS BUSTED OPEN, AMIRITE!?
Interesting fact. John Cena granted his first 6 make a wishes in late 2003, after his debut in 2002 while he was A HEEL. Just saying.
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Old 04-08-2013, 02:52 AM   #43122
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I'm not doubting that kids want to meet John Cena, but don't by fucking cynical enough to think that just because Cena has given the most that he's the only wrestler who does, or who ever gets asked for.
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Old 04-08-2013, 02:55 AM   #43123
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I'm going to leave this now, as getting you to admit that you could ever be wrong about something, is like owenbrown being rational when replying to a Shisen Kopf post. It's just not possible.
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Old 04-08-2013, 02:58 AM   #43124
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I'm not doubting that kids want to meet John Cena, but don't by fucking cynical enough to think that just because Cena has given the most that he's the only wrestler who does, or who ever gets asked for.
That's precisely what I said. Amazing. lol
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Old 04-08-2013, 02:59 AM   #43125
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I'm going to leave this now, as getting you to admit that you could ever be wrong about something, is like owenbrown being rational when replying to a Shisen Kopf post. It's just not possible.
Like crying "YOU'RE WRONG BUT YOU'LL NEVER ADMIT IT SO WHATEVER!" when you make a ridiculous argument? Seriously. lol
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Old 04-08-2013, 03:00 AM   #43126
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I don't recall seeing that at all.
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Going the "you're wrong but you'll never admit it" route doesn't make your case valid.
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Dying kids don't want to see The Shield. That's the point...
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Dying kids want to see Cena... because he's a their hero... he's portrayed as the good guy. It's not complicated.
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Dying Shield fans, no less. They got nothing to live for anyway.
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Hang on. Let me check and see how many kids have made their dying wish to meet Roman Reigns.
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It would be very facepalm-worthy if he did make a point to say in any public forum that he does something he doesn't want publicity for. Obscure podcast or not.

As someone who likes CM Punk I hope you dreamed or hallucinated this because I don't want to think of him as someone who would do something that lame.
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Alright, got some stats right here.

John Cena was recently honored by Make-a-wish for being the only celebrity to grant 300 wishes.

No information on the number of wishes any members of The Shield have granted. Tough to find. Surely it's a cover-up.
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Like crying "YOU'RE WRONG BUT YOU'LL NEVER ADMIT IT SO WHATEVER!" when you make a ridiculous argument? Seriously. lol
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Going the "you're wrong but you'll never admit it" route doesn't make your case valid.
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Old 04-08-2013, 03:08 AM   #43129
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... None of those quotes say Cena is the only guy kids want to see.

I feel like getting you to admit your wrong though would be next to impossible.
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My point was being, you are throwing this out like its absolute truth when really, you honestly have no idea, and nothing to back up what you're saying. And the fact that you make arguments like this a lot on here. You are obviously passionate with what you believe is cool, but sometimes it's like 'C'mon fan, you're better than this'.
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Old 04-08-2013, 03:09 AM   #43131
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... None of those quotes say Cena is the only guy kids want to see.

I feel like getting you to admit your wrong though would be next to impossible.
I'm not disputing the Cena thing, I said that dipshit. My point is about the shield and your claims that kids would not want to meet them. Stop trying to sidestep what I'm saying.
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It's all PR stuff, #1-wwf-fan. If dying kids wanted to see The Shield, they would do that too.
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Dying kids don't want to see The Shield. That's the point...
This is what started everything. If dying kids wanted to see The Shield, they would. If dying kids wanted to see Drew McIntyre, they would. If dying kids wanted to see Camacho, they would. Insert any random name you want. If, if, if.

They don't. That's the point. Unless you think The Shield or Drew McIntyre or Camacho are granting wishes and whatnot left and right then what are you arguing? If you do think that, then we've got an issue of giving some evidence. I can show you the evidence for Cena. And on top of that, logically, I think we can say The Shield, D-Mac or Camacho don't spend much time visiting little kids and such. I mean... seriously.
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Old 04-08-2013, 03:21 AM   #43133
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It's not their appeal. Clearly. There's reasons Cena is so valuable in that spot and the main one is that he's been the top babyface for years and kids are marks. At no point was I speaking in absolutes as in "No dying kid would ever want to see The Shield". Obviously there are exceptions. The gap between them and Cena though is ridiculous. And to go back to the discussion before that, yes Cena turning heel would put a huge dent in that.
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Last night's Mania felt rushed. No backstage segments and no "America the Beautiful" at the start of the show.
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Old 04-08-2013, 02:12 PM   #43139
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It's not their appeal. Clearly. There's reasons Cena is so valuable in that spot and the main one is that he's been the top babyface for years and kids are marks. At no point was I speaking in absolutes as in "No dying kid would ever want to see The Shield". Obviously there are exceptions. The gap between them and Cena though is ridiculous. And to go back to the discussion before that, yes Cena turning heel would put a huge dent in that.
The flaw in your logic, though, is in your third sentence. Kids are marks. Cena is their #1 babyface. Hence, they want to see Cena. Turn Cena heel, someone else becomes #1 babyface, kids are still marks, they'll still want to see the #1 babyface. Only difference is, it will be someone else in the role.
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The flaw in your logic, though, is in your first sentence. Kids are marks. Cena is their #1 babyface. Hence, they want to see Cena. Turn Cena heel, someone else becomes #1 babyface, kids are still marks, they'll still want to see the #1 babyface. Only difference is, it will be someone else in the role.
If kids lined up to see Lex Luger, they'll line up for anyone.
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Old 04-08-2013, 02:58 PM   #43147
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Some post-Mania dirstsheet news:

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Triple H had x-rays performed on his arm last night but there were no signs of injury beyond some muscle bruising. His arm and hand were swollen after the Brock Lesnar match.
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There were several WWE midcard talents who were upset that they didn't get to go out in front of the crowd or even have backstage segments, especially considering in past years when the company tried to get everyone on the card. There was also a lot of talk about how wrong it was that Antonio Cesero didn't have a spot considering how hard he has worked.

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The inter-gender tag match was cut before the PPV went on the air, as they decided to give the top three matches as much time as they wanted. Time was cut from the Jack Swagger vs Alberto Del Rio match and the company also cut Lilian Garcia singing "America the Beautiful".
This one surprised me the most when it happened. Didn't really feel like they were rushing for time until the Cena-Rock match started.

According to Wikipedia, there was only about 2 hours of actual wrestling last night and the big matches were only in the 20-25 minute range. The WWE managed to somehow mess up with an extra 2 hours of time even though there were no skits/promos and hype videos were mostly limited to Cena and Rock before the Taker-Punk match.
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Old 04-08-2013, 03:06 PM   #43148
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It's high time that the World's Heavyweight title was retired or unified with the WWE Championship. There is absolutely no need for the belt to be treated like a secondary level title.
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Old 04-08-2013, 03:12 PM   #43149
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I'm feeling a renewed love of WWE after last night. Hoping last nights torch passing was the end of The Rock's triumphant return to WWE and a new beginning is afoot. Looking forward to tonight's Raw. Cena and all.
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Old 04-08-2013, 03:13 PM   #43150
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Old 04-08-2013, 03:24 PM   #43151
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Old 04-08-2013, 03:34 PM   #43152
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Old 04-08-2013, 04:00 PM   #43153
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Look at Big E being likeable and all.
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Old 04-08-2013, 04:03 PM   #43154
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Read some of what he tweets. Dude is charismatic and funny.
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Old 04-08-2013, 04:05 PM   #43155
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Old 04-08-2013, 04:12 PM   #43156
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New side plates already on the WWE championship. This looks even worse with Cena's plates on it now:

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Old 04-08-2013, 05:00 PM   #43157
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That is the greatest thing EVER! WWE I demand you push this man to the fucking moon right this instant!!!!!
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Old 04-08-2013, 05:01 PM   #43158
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New side plates already on the WWE championship. This looks even worse with Cena's plates on it now:
So every champ gets custom plates afterall I guess. Neato.
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Old 04-08-2013, 05:20 PM   #43159
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no more name plate tho
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