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Old 04-08-2013, 05:28 PM   #43161
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Old 04-08-2013, 05:46 PM   #43162
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Dying kids don't want to see The Shield. That's the point...
A lot of dying kids don't want to see John Cena either. Some of them are Rock fans. Your point is essentially "because John Cena is the top face, he must stay the top face, because if he turned heel he wouldn't be the top face."

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probably shouldn't be exclusively booking towards dying kids

not a real permanent market
This is how John Cena could be the most hated heel in WWE history. You bring in an Aaron Eckhart in "Thank You For Smoking" type heel who points out that John Cena wants little kids to die, because that means he'll always have charity work to do. It's in the interest of those who don't need PR appearances to want children to be happy and healthy all the time.

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Fan you may be surprised what these kids like. My 7 year old Godson loves Dean Ambrose, no bullshit. Before Ambrose, he loved Cody and Matt Hardy and he's 7, so I know he doesn't remember those classic tag table matches.

Kids' taste may surprise you sometimes. I know it shocks the fuck outta me.
This. When my nephew used to watch he had a really obscure favourite. It surprised the fuck out of me and I was a mark for Val Venis and Doug Basham. The other one is currently a massive fan of Damien Sandow. He likes how he isn't afraid to use big words and that he feels sorry for him that no one likes him even though he's trying to help. Seriously. He didn't like Cody Rhodes, but he now kind of likes him because he's the only person who likes Sandow.

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SOON TO BE THE "SETH ROLLINS CONFERENCE ROOM" ONCE THIS CONSPIRACY GETS BUSTED OPEN, AMIRITE!?
You know, you are starting to sound like a dick at this point. No one is saying that The Shield grant as many as John Cena. All I was referencing was the photos Rollins, Ambrose & Reigns took with some crippled kids at Fan Axxess over the weekend. It's the job of both faces and heels in this modern era to be ambassadors for the business. It's perfectly fine for Roman Reigns to flash his attractive smile in a photograph with some fans that have flown all around world to see their favourite Superstars -- heroes and villains -- at the biggest show of them. Of course John Cena grants more wishes than them. They've literally just shown up on the scene and are making their mark. Cena is the established top babyface. I'm not saying he's not a genuinely nice person, but that doesn't mean he can't be a genuinely nice person and be a heel. That happens these days.

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This is what started everything. If dying kids wanted to see The Shield, they would. If dying kids wanted to see Drew McIntyre, they would. If dying kids wanted to see Camacho, they would. Insert any random name you want. If, if, if.

They don't. That's the point. Unless you think The Shield or Drew McIntyre or Camacho are granting wishes and whatnot left and right then what are you arguing? If you do think that, then we've got an issue of giving some evidence. I can show you the evidence for Cena. And on top of that, logically, I think we can say The Shield, D-Mac or Camacho don't spend much time visiting little kids and such. I mean... seriously.
Dying kids don't want to see The Shield yet. When it comes time for them to move further up the card, start putting on the smiles and being nice guys, we'll see how they go with the kiddies, yeah? Again, I'm not saying John Cena doesn't lead the way. No one is saying that. It's just this false logic that he is the only one who could ever do it and can only ever do it as a babyface because heels don't do PR stuff. You've had points raised against you using CM Punk, Mark Henry, The Shield, Hulk Hogan, David Otunga, The Miz and Triple H. I'm sure Sheamus was doing stuff when he was technically a heel, too. Everytime the WWE goes to Afghanistan you hear the heels talking about what a moving experience it was and how they support the troops. Being a heel =/= someone who can't be a nice guy to dying kids. That is the point. No one is arguing that the top face is not in the best position to do it. It's fair enough that Cena wants to give little kids a hero, but...

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The flaw in your logic, though, is in your third sentence. Kids are marks. Cena is their #1 babyface. Hence, they want to see Cena. Turn Cena heel, someone else becomes #1 babyface, kids are still marks, they'll still want to see the #1 babyface. Only difference is, it will be someone else in the role.
This. Cena can selflessly do his dying kids stuff, but when he turns heel it will just be someone else. Granted, they might not put the exact same amount of time and energy in as Cena (who puts in more than anyone else in like any field). I think the original point was that John Cena sounds like a mark for himself when he says that, and while I never used those words, I can see that point. Cena doesn't want to turn heel because then it wouldn't be him being the top face. Either dying kids want to see John Cena because he's John Cena or they want to see John Cena because he's the top face. The kids that want to see John Cena because he's the top face will adapt to get new heroes; the ones that want to see John Cena can still see John Cena.

I'm not saying that Cena should even turn heel. He's great at what he does and it would suck to dampen his connection with the kiddies. That doesn't mean the whole "Who will be the face of the company?" arguement isn't stupid. The new face of the company will be the face of the company, stupid.

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Old 04-08-2013, 06:08 PM   #43163
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Assuming this is true, The Rock might be pissed at how Mania ended not from his loosing but from everything else afterwards.

Would explain why it seemed like he was just going through the motions to get the whole post-match respect/"passing of the torch" stuff over as quick as possible.

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The Wrestling Observer is reporting there is panic backstage at tonight's Raw right now and a rewrite of the show is underway this afternoon.

The Rock had been originally scheduled to appear in an angle with Brock Lesnar which would set up the main event for WrestleMania 30 next year however, the word backstage is that he left for Los Angeles this morning.

WWE sources indicate this caught the company completely off guard.

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Apparently a meeting taking place at this moment regarding Rock
— Bryan Alvarez (@bryanalvarez) April 8, 2013

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"There is absolute panic at Raw at this moment. The show was scheduled to build to a segment where Brock Lesnar beat up Rock to set up next year's WrestleMania main event. Rock is not there. The word at the building is he went home. Vince McMahon, the writers and producers are in the process of redoing the show, evidently believing the angle has been nixed. Nobody knows any details as to what happened past that. The belief right now is Rock is not appearing and hopefully if that changes we'll get an update."
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Old 04-08-2013, 06:22 PM   #43165
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It could conceivably make sense if The Rock was telling Vince "This won't work. People will hate it," and no one listened to him. The Rock's a pro and seemed willing to play ball though. I can imagine doing something inorganic and getting booed for it despite you knowing the best way to go is to end the show with a bang might make a performer a bit unhappy.

Not saying that is what happened, #1-wwf-fan. Just speculating as to a possibility.
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Old 04-08-2013, 06:33 PM   #43166
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The other one is currently a massive fan of Damien Sandow. He likes how he isn't afraid to use big words and that he feels sorry for him that no one likes him even though he's trying to help. Seriously. He didn't like Cody Rhodes, but he now kind of likes him because he's the only person who likes Sandow.
I just want to say that this is adorable.
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Old 04-08-2013, 06:37 PM   #43167
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Old 04-08-2013, 07:38 PM   #43168
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I don't think The Rock would pull an Austin stunt. He has enough pull to get done whatever he wants done really.
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Old 04-08-2013, 07:45 PM   #43169
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Sucks to be Brock...
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Old 04-08-2013, 11:02 PM   #43170
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:48 AM   #43171
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damn Neidhart has really let himself go
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:05 AM   #43172
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:55 AM   #43173
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Seriously who the fuck thought they'd ever see Bryan Danielson in that position.
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Old 04-09-2013, 02:08 AM   #43174
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Totally missed out on Big E hitting AJ Lee on her chest.
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Seriously who the fuck thought they'd ever see Bryan Danielson in that position.
I'm sorry, who?
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Old 04-09-2013, 02:16 AM   #43176
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Awesome that Ziggler wore the Zack Ryder Vs. Dolph Ziggler patch on his vest at WrestleMania. He is a class act and a worthy World Heavyweight Champion.
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Old 04-09-2013, 02:47 AM   #43177
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Seriously who the fuck thought they'd ever see Bryan Danielson in that position.
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Old 04-09-2013, 09:37 AM   #43179
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A year ago I never would've thought I'd be a fan of Daniel Bryan. He was utterly dull. Teaming with Kane has done wonders for him and now he's one of the best comedy guys they have. Don't know how I'll feel about him when they inevitably split up, but if they keep him as a Kurt Angle-esque goofy comedy guy who can also go in the ring he could be fun.
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Old 04-09-2013, 09:38 AM   #43180
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I don't want to see him with one of the big belts again though. Keep him as an upper mid guy who can fill in at main event level from time to time, but no higher.
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Old 04-09-2013, 09:45 AM   #43181
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Never thought I'd see the Brothers of Destruction split in the middle by 5'10" Daniel Bryan. Cool visual, and I actually would love if UT decided to do a match against the Shield at Extreme Rules with Hell No. Of course one of the Tag Champs would take the fall and the Shield adds another notch in their belt. Kind of excited for that if its the direction they're going in.
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Here's a video, someone can embed it.

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Imagine someone who wasn't at the show on this train.

"What is going on here? I.... I'm just trying to get home...."
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Reports are saying that the crowds in Boston are singing Fandango's theme song.
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Reports are saying that the crowds in Boston are singing Fandango's theme song.
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LOL what is going on with Fandango?

All of a sudden he's the hottest talent and fans are totally behind him.

I don't mind, I love this gimmick, but still. Out of nowhere.
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