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Old 06-18-2010, 12:23 AM   #2881
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SHould they retired Fishers jerseys after winning 5 with LA?
No. Im not saying Fisher doesnt deserve it, but the Laker franchise seems to be very selective and strict with retired jerseys.
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Old 06-18-2010, 12:23 AM   #2882
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Old 06-18-2010, 12:24 AM   #2883
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ah yes...forgot about the dumb asses in SoCal...this is always the buzzkill after the win.
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Old 06-18-2010, 12:25 AM   #2884
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Old 06-18-2010, 12:26 AM   #2885
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Old 06-18-2010, 12:26 AM   #2886
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Old 06-18-2010, 12:27 AM   #2887
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though i do hope we tip Boston's bus while they are leaving.
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Old 06-18-2010, 02:00 AM   #2888
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Old 06-18-2010, 02:30 AM   #2889
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i just wanna thank my doctor

and my psychiatrist for helping me relax

i was so relaxed in the 4th quarter

and when i hit that 3 pointer in the 4th quarter i was relaxed

so i wanna thank my psychiatrist for that

and i wrote a song called champion last june

the single is about to come out
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Old 06-18-2010, 02:30 AM   #2890
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I'm sorry - but was that the ONLY game you have ever watched? That was easily one of the worst games I have sat through in a long time. The whole series was absolute shit. I guess both teams were saving some energy for Game 8....
Aside from the ugly game 7 and the blowout in game 6, all these games have been great. Best Finals in a long time imo
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Old 06-18-2010, 02:46 AM   #2891
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Losing Perkins was a big blow for the Celtics like I said it would be before the series started. Unfortunately it was due to injury and not suspension from receiving a technical. Even though i'm not a Celtics fan I have always admired Perkins for his toughness and excellent post defense.
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Old 06-18-2010, 02:55 AM   #2892
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If was I was a reporter at the press conference... I would ask Kobe what does it feel like to be the 2nd best player on 5 championship teams?
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Old 06-18-2010, 03:16 AM   #2893
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He was the best player on the last 2 for sure, and probably 3.
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Old 06-18-2010, 03:25 AM   #2894
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I think some people think Finals MVP = Game 7 MVP
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Old 06-18-2010, 10:59 AM   #2895
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Old 06-18-2010, 03:28 PM   #2896
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Old 06-18-2010, 03:33 PM   #2897
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Old 06-18-2010, 06:31 PM   #2898
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so, in 2008 a lot of lakers fans say they lost because Bynum was injured, so by that logic in 2010 the Celtics lost because Perkins was injured?

lets get both teams 100% healthy and play the rubber match next year.

Sadly, i don't think the C's have another run in them... I also don't know how they start to rebuild...

I don't think Garnett at his age and price has much trade value.

Allen has some.

I say they trade Pierce while they can still get something good for him and/or free u some space to make a run for one of the big free agents...
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Old 06-18-2010, 06:36 PM   #2899
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Bynum was STILL injured this year, and its not like Perkins was out the entire series, just a game and a half. Perkins made the inside tougher sure, but Wallace gave the Celts another offensive threat, so you take the good with the bad.

Regardless, there may or may not be another matchup of these teams (i hope there is), but i dont think i'd compare the loss of Andrew Bynum for the entire series of 08 to the loss of Perkins D and gain of Wallace's O for a couple games in 2010.
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Old 06-18-2010, 07:56 PM   #2900
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I think what he's saying is that it's lame for either side to try to discredit the other's win, or act as though theirs was any more legitimate
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^^ Agreed. It's not like the Celtics BARELY beat the Lakers in '08. They slapped em around pretty much. Bynum woulda made maybe a little difference, but I doubt he woulda turned the series around.
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I think what he's saying is that it's lame for either side to try to discredit the other's win, or act as though theirs was any more legitimate
This is true

However Kobe's MVP is pretty illegitimate.
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Old 06-18-2010, 08:37 PM   #2903
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This is true

However Kobe's MVP is pretty illegitimate.
He was the best player in the series.
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Pau Gasol was the best player. However Pau Gasol goes the Lakers go.

Gasol>Kobe
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As a Celtics fan, I would say that Gasol was the MVP. Whether they won or lost depended on his play far more, throughout the entire series.
The Celtics have shown that they can manage Kobe, and even if he goes off they can still win. Gasol was the real problem, and how they managed him determined the outcome of games.
That's why I'd say he was easily the MVP of the Lakers. It's not even a matter of any bias or hate either, because I despise Gasol far more than I hate Kobe.
Kobe just got it because he's Kobe, I think, and the NBA would also like him to move closer to Jordan in MVP awards.
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Where would the Lakers have been without Kobe's 30 ppg? While the Lakers wouldnt have won without Gasol, Kobe was the driving force behind everything.
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I think they should take a team for what it is, and award the x-factor though. If what you're saying is the case, the best player on the team should almost always win by default, even if they're managed well by the opposing team or even deliver below expectations.

I get what you're saying, I just feel Gasol would be my choice. I suppose it also can come down to the pointless "define MVP" debate
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Pau was consistent and efficient, but even in the losses in this series, it was Kobe that kept the Lakers in those games.
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Pau was consistent and efficient, but even in the losses in this series, it was Kobe that kept the Lakers in those games.
Indeed he is those things, but lets not downplay his contributions to the lakers. Before gasol got to the lakers post shaq the lakers didnt make the playoffs one year, and were bounced in round 1 the very next. Since gasol has become a laker they have made the finals three times in a row, and won 2 championships. I don't think thats a coincidence, and there is a reason teams around the league were screaming when that lopsided trade went through. Hes one of the best big men in the league.
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I'm a Lakers fan, I know how important he is to the Lakers. You're preaching to the choir.
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Old 06-18-2010, 11:52 PM   #2911
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Well of course he's a better player and more valuable to the Lakers on the whole. I'm just judging it by the series and how important each player was to the overall strategy of the matchup.
You can say that Kobe was more valuable, because of what he always means to that team, but Kobe is and has been the best player on the team so that's inherent. If it's approached that way he's MVP before the series even tips off.
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Old 06-19-2010, 12:06 PM   #2912
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I think what he's saying is that it's lame for either side to try to discredit the other's win, or act as though theirs was any more legitimate
yes that was my point.
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Old 06-19-2010, 03:44 PM   #2913
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Kobe wasnt even the 2nd best player on his team this series
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