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Old 10-09-2008, 02:07 AM   #1
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Let's talk about comics, maaaan

Yeah, let's talk about comics.

What are you fools currently reading?

Me? I'm still plodding through that chronological x-men ish. Here I'm getting to the end of the original noblecrayfish packages (I'm in like 2004/2005 now), I go to check for new ish and I find everything's been revised and organized into different packages.It's all good tho cuz the new dude was nice enough to point out where the old system ends and the new one picks up. Maaaan, X-Men got so much better in 2002/2003. Like the late 90s and 2000/2001 made me wanna kill myself. Right now I'm reading ish like Madrox and District X and it's pure awesome.

Also, finally got around to getting a torrent of the entire events leading up to, during and immediately after Civil War. Should be sex. They are like the official marvel scans converted to CBZ apparently. Huzzah.

Did you fuggas know that there is a bigass Marvel Chronology project going on rn? Like everything Marvel starting from Fantastic Four #1 or some ish? Insane.

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Old 10-09-2008, 02:10 AM   #2
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Also, I am severly lacking in terms of the DC universe.

Recommend me some titles to follow. Like obviously I know Flash, GL, Batman and all the really well known JLA names and ish but what about other stuff?

Also, I'd really like to get into Batman, but I'd rather skip past the really campy shit that resembled the 1960s tv show. Help me out here.
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Old 10-09-2008, 02:39 AM   #3
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Ed Brubaker's run on Captain America,has been one of the best runs on any comic ever.

Secret Ivasion is obviously a must read. Real good stuff. I like the marvel crossovers better than the DC ones, just because there is just way too much shit happening all at once in all the Crisis events. It's not that I lack the intelligence to follow it, I just feel it's better when they keep everything simpler, as it allows for a better focus on the characters themselves. Identity Crisis was actually like that, and I like it better than the other DC crossovers.

Th relaunches of Thor and Hulk are both good.

As for X-books. Cable is really good too, but you'll have to read Messiah Complex first. The new x-force is pretty kick-ass. Basically, wolverine leads a team of stealth operatives(x-23, warpath, wolfsbane) that perform missions without the "x-men don't kill" moral code.

Also, you def need to read The Boys.
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Old 10-09-2008, 02:43 AM   #4
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Oh, and I know you said you already know to get Green Lantern. But just to make sure, get Green Lantern: Rebith, The ongoing series that started after it, and Green Lantern Corps. GL is seriously the best thing DC has going right now. Proof of that is that I actually like it. Usually the only thing I care about in DC is Batman or Elseworlds.
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Old 10-09-2008, 02:47 AM   #5
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Also, I am severly lacking in terms of the DC universe.

Recommend me some titles to follow. Like obviously I know Flash, GL, Batman and all the really well known JLA names and ish but what about other stuff?

Also, I'd really like to get into Batman, but I'd rather skip past the really campy shit that resembled the 1960s tv show. Help me out here.
Batman shit really only got campy in the 50s and mid 60s, and then got right back into the dark stuff. But I'm gonna try to only recommend you some decently recent stuff, with a few 80s things thrown in there.

Batman I'd recommend (graphic novels):

Batman: Year One
Justice League: Tower of Babel (the story revolves around Batman)
The Killing Joke
The Man Who Laughs
Trinity (A graphic novel about Wonder Woman, Superman, and Batman's first meeting)
The Long Halloween
Dark Victory (sequel to Long Halloween, introduction of Robin)
The Dark Knight Returns
Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth

That's what I can name that I've got off the top of my head from Batman.

Some other awesome DC stuff:

Kingdom Come (one of the best graphic novels I've ever read, period)
Red Son (Elseworlds tale where Superman landed in Russia instead of the United States during the Cold War)
Identity Crisis (the only graphic novel that has brought me on the verge of tears)
Justice

If you want me to elaborate on what any of them are about, let me know.
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Old 10-09-2008, 02:49 AM   #6
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I mostly only stick with DC stuff, because it's what I grew up on. With the exception being that I own Iron Man: Demon in a Bottle so I have some classic street cred.

I am currently reading Batman & Son and keeping up on Batman R.I.P.

Grant Morrison's run on Batman has been nothing short of awesome.
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Old 10-09-2008, 02:54 AM   #7
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Grant Morrison is awesome in general. Too bad Marvel fucked up his x-men run, by retconning everything.
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Old 10-09-2008, 02:55 AM   #8
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Old 10-09-2008, 03:55 AM   #9
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Ed Brubaker's run on Captain America,has been one of the best runs on any comic ever.

Secret Ivasion is obviously a must read. Real good stuff. I like the marvel crossovers better than the DC ones, just because there is just way too much shit happening all at once in all the Crisis events. It's not that I lack the intelligence to follow it, I just feel it's better when they keep everything simpler, as it allows for a better focus on the characters themselves. Identity Crisis was actually like that, and I like it better than the other DC crossovers.

Th relaunches of Thor and Hulk are both good.

As for X-books. Cable is really good too, but you'll have to read Messiah Complex first. The new x-force is pretty kick-ass. Basically, wolverine leads a team of stealth operatives(x-23, warpath, wolfsbane) that perform missions without the "x-men don't kill" moral code.

Also, you def need to read The Boys.
I'm in the first arc of Cable & Deadpool just now. Plus that "X-men don't kill" thing is bullshit. Like the only one who'se never killed anyone is like Dazzler. And that's just cause Klaw survived getting absorbed (made of sound).
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Batman shit really only got campy in the 50s and mid 60s, and then got right back into the dark stuff. But I'm gonna try to only recommend you some decently recent stuff, with a few 80s things thrown in there.

Batman I'd recommend (graphic novels):

Batman: Year One
Justice League: Tower of Babel (the story revolves around Batman)
The Killing Joke
The Man Who Laughs
Trinity (A graphic novel about Wonder Woman, Superman, and Batman's first meeting)
The Long Halloween
Dark Victory (sequel to Long Halloween, introduction of Robin)
The Dark Knight Returns
Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth

That's what I can name that I've got off the top of my head from Batman.

Some other awesome DC stuff:

Kingdom Come (one of the best graphic novels I've ever read, period)
Red Son (Elseworlds tale where Superman landed in Russia instead of the United States during the Cold War)
Identity Crisis (the only graphic novel that has brought me on the verge of tears)
Justice

If you want me to elaborate on what any of them are about, let me know.
Yeah, sweet. Do you have any idea, as far as issue numbers go what I should be reading and what I should skip (the 50s/60s camp shit)? Makes it easier when looking up torrents.
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What? When he took over X-Men (New X-Men) it was pure awesome. The Omega Gang = ratings.
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Old 10-09-2008, 04:05 AM   #10
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Old 10-09-2008, 04:39 AM   #11
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Here is what I currently read monthly:

Astonishing X-Men
Uncanny X-Men
X-Men: Legacy
Secret Invasion
X-Men Testament: Magneto
Cable
X-Men: Manifest Destiny
Sub-Mariner: The Depths
Trinity (although I am about 10 issues behind)
Terror Titans
Secret Six
Final Crisis
Final Crisis Revelations
Final Crisis Rogues Revenge
Final Crisis Legion of 3 Worlds
Final Crisis Superman Beyond 3-D
1985
Batgirl
Deadpool
Back to Brooklyn


Read in trades:

Mighty Avengers
New Avengers
Avengers: The Initiative
Criminal
Daredevil
Fables
Jack of Fables
The Boys
Thor
She-Hulk
The Punisher (MAX)
Green Lantern
Green Lantern Corps
Teen Titans
Batman
Superman
JLA
JSA
Batman and the Outsiders
Moon Knight
Immortal Iron Fist
Captain America
Ex Machina
Walking Dead
The Boys



That's all, off the top of my head. Some of the stuff I collect in trade I am thinking about switching to monthlies (esp. Green Lantern and JSA). And some of those monthlies are minis i.e. Batgirl (which I don't know why I am sticking with), Terror Titans, and Secret Six, and Final Crisis plus tie-ins.

I am actually enjoying Final Crisis more than Secret Invasion, which is why I haven't picked up any SI tie-ins. Although I don't think either crossover has been all that spectacular so far.

And Cable I am giving until issue 10 for something to happen. #7 was good and restored my hope for the series so we will see.
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Old 10-09-2008, 02:16 PM   #12
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Yeah, sweet. Do you have any idea, as far as issue numbers go what I should be reading and what I should skip (the 50s/60s camp shit)? Makes it easier when looking up torrents.
Most of those you don't even have to look up issue numbers, they are mostly available in graphic novel form in one sweet sweet download. I typically just wait till graphic novel compilations are out and purchase those. I'm not much of a downloader.

I don't have any specific issues you should avoid as far as camp, but Batman got campy around 1956 and then started to get grim and gritty again when Neal Adams started writing for him in 1969.
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If you like the Madrox mini-series, be sure to read the X-Factor ongoing series that follows it up.

Modern Batman is a bit hard to recommend as a lot of from the 90s onwards is structured around big crossover events - for the "Batman Family" as a whole, meaning it can be split over a lot of titles - stuff like Knightfall/Knightsquest/Knightsend, No Man's Land and War Games being the most obvious. Grant Morrison's run is definitely worth checking, starting with the Batman and Son arc, which leads into the Black Glove and currently ongoing Batman R.I.P. arcs.

Most of the stuff CoE recommended is stuff that falls early in Batman's career, so to add to those I'd also suggest Batman & the Mad Monk and Batman & the Monster Men - basically two modernized adaptions of early Batman storylines set during the "Year One" period.

I'm only a little bit into it, but I'm quite enjoying 52 - focuses on some fairly minor members of the DC universe, but deals with what happens in the gap between the end of Infinite Crisis and the One Year Later stories that followed it. Might help to read Infinite Crisis beforehand, but that's quite a big undertaking...
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Yeah, so I guess I'll see if I can find some sort of chronological Batman project. That would seriously be immense.

For all you guys reading the various X-titles (including Deadpool), what point did you start from? Like I said, I got a chronological x-men torrent (had been reading it in the 90s before that tho) and basically have read almost every x-men comic (and related titles) all the way from #1 all the way back in 1963.
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Yeah, d/ling that as we speak.

MZ 1 and 2 and a few related titles in one neat torrent. I love demonoid. Where do fuggas get your torrents usually?
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I started picking up the recent run of Uncanny when Brubaker started, Astonishing with Whedon, and adjectiveless/Legacy with Carey. Deadpool is only 2 issues in so far.

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I just hopped on board at what was there when I started (which was basically right after House of M finished up) - I've gone back and read some older stuff, but mostly I've just gotten the gist of past storylines on Wikipedia etc.
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Get on demonoid and get the Revised Chronological X-Men torrents. It's got everything related to X-men ever in them. Like I said, there are 18 torrents in total right now.
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I know there isn't a whole lot of love for Superman on these boards, but Geoff Johns' current run on Action Comics is freakin' amazing. Particularly his revamps of General Zod and his current arc with Brainiac. Each one of them could stand alone as a movie (and a better one than Singer's disappointment)

Also, Grant Morrison's All-Star Superman is my new favorite comic of all time. Volume 1 is already out in trades, and Volume 2 shouldn't be far behind now that the series has wrapped up. Even if you hate Supes with a passion, I recommend giving this one a shot.

Aside from that, and the ones from U-Warrior and CofE's lists, a few more DC picks:

Superman:
Birthright (my favorite take on the Superman origin)
Superman for All Seasons (another good origin, from Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale)
Lex Luthor: The Man of Steel (really dark story from the '100 Bullets' guy)
For Tomorrow (another dark one from Azarello, has a lot of craziness with genetic super-soldier monsters and the Phantom Zone)
Sacrifice (Supes flips out while being mind-controlled, nearly kills Batman, slugs it out with Wonder Woman, and sets the stage for Infinite Crisis)
Up, Up, and Away! (the 'One Year Later' starting point following Infinite Crisis, has a great showdown with Luthor)
Secret Identity (one of the best and most tragically overlooked Elseworld stories out there)

Batman:
Year One (Frank Miller's take on the origin, and the only Miller book I like)
No Man's Land (one of the big 90s events, introduces Harley Quinn)
Batman and Son

Others:
Wonder Woman: Gods and Mortals (pretty much the only WW book worth reading)
The Flash: Rogue War
Green Lantern: Sinestro Corps
JLA: Identity Crisis
JLA: Tower of Babel

And it's not DC, but Invincible is the best indy comic out there, hands-down.

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Once I get through the pile of about 40 trade paperback collections I need to read first, maybe.
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Old 10-09-2008, 08:24 PM   #25
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Seriously, I have a crapload of unread trades. And yet I goto the comic store every weekend and get more. It's a sickness.

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Old 10-09-2008, 10:07 PM   #26
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Current DC Books that are Awesome/Good:

Booster Gold
Green Lantern
Green Lantern Corps
Justice Society of America
Action Comics
Superman (Actually, the last story (which was by a writer I love) was one of the worst Supes story I've ever read... but... starting now, it's crossing over with Geoff's Action and so could get better)
Supergirl (Actually, this book was horrible, but starting last issue, it has begun to tie in more with Superman and Geoff's stuff, which makes it good)
Manhunter

Current Vertigo books that are Awesome/Good:

Army@Love
Fables
Jack of Fables

Current Marvel Comics that are good:

Captain America
Criminal
Daredevil
Guardians of the Galaxy
Kick-Ass
Nova
Immortal Iron Fist
The Twelve (I think this is destined to become a classic)

Current Other books that are Awesome/good:

Angel: After the Fall
Buffy Season Eight (Actually, this one is largely hit or miss. Mostly miss)
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Supergirl (Actually, this book was horrible, but starting last issue, it has begun to tie in more with Superman and Geoff's stuff, which makes it good)
Very true. I can't wait to see where they're going to go with the upcoming "New Krypton" arc.
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I forgot to mention Hush, Hush is immense.

But Red Son is one of my favorite Superman stories of all time. There were so many holy shit moments for me.

The only thing I've read with more moments like that is Kingdom Come.

I have Batman and Son laying around my house, but haven't read it. Then I need to read Black Glove. Without having read those, though, Batman R.I.P. is bad ass so far.
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Yeah, d/ling that as we speak.

MZ 1 and 2 and a few related titles in one neat torrent. I love demonoid. Where do fuggas get your torrents usually?
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My roomate is bigger into comics than I have been in recent years. He keeps on buying the new silent hill series, and its pretty good stuff. Bare Bones art style, but the atmosphere it creates is spot on with other silent hill fare.
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Old 10-10-2008, 01:50 AM   #32
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That's a part of the aforementioned Marvel Zombies torrent, D-Mac
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Old 10-10-2008, 03:44 PM   #34
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Paul Dini's Detective Comics stuff has been pretty amazing.

Not a fan of Grant Morrison's Batman stuff. Or really anything that he is doing currently.
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Old 10-12-2008, 09:34 PM   #35
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Anyone else see the previews for Azzarello's "Joker" trade? Looks fuckin' brutal.

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Old 10-13-2008, 12:55 AM   #36
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Just read the first Hush arc today. Tremendous stuff.
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Old 10-14-2008, 12:55 AM   #37
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My friend let me borrow a book I've never heard of called Wormwood last night. I know absolutely nothing about it, but he says it's amazing. And me and him are pretty in sync when it comes to comics. Anyone have any opinion on it?

Also, finished the comic version of Wanted a few months ago and forgot it was good. So, I mention it now.
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