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Old 05-22-2015, 05:02 PM   #41
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That's just a fan's definition of fat? LOL, go look up Happy Humphrey and "Haystacks" Calhoun and then talk about fat wrestlers.
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Old 05-22-2015, 05:07 PM   #42
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I didn't say they were fat only Viscera and Yokozuna I called fat. Bulky or husky in Wyatt's case but not fat.
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Old 05-22-2015, 05:08 PM   #43
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Kevin Owens vs Kane Knight in a belly bumping match.
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Old 05-22-2015, 05:16 PM   #44
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I do think Owens is looking a bit porkier than when he first started. Better watch that.
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Old 05-22-2015, 05:18 PM   #45
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Lol remember when Matt Hardy came back to the WWE with his gut hanging over his tights?
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Old 05-22-2015, 05:19 PM   #46
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He's a Canadian who doesn't say he's sorry. Already the most bad ass Canadian ever.
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Old 05-22-2015, 06:31 PM   #48
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Some guys are just believable, he's one of them.
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Old 05-22-2015, 07:05 PM   #49
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I'm a fan. He's not the typical generic ROH guy. He's got a legit badass vibe to him and on top of that he's got the rasslin' skillz to appeal to the smarks. What's not to love? Of course when they give him a streak and then start jobbing him out constantly when he gets on the main brand like they tend to do, I'll stop giving a fuck. But for now, he's awesome.
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Old 05-22-2015, 07:11 PM   #50
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I'd agree with Fan, he definite has an air of badass lingering on him. He carries himself like he believes in himself, and I would not cross him in a back ally.
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Old 05-22-2015, 08:16 PM   #52
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I dig the character and his mannerisms.

But my god just hit some weights. He could be a legit star. But it's harder to cross into the casual fan base when you look like you are a cook at buffalo wild wings
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Old 05-22-2015, 08:32 PM   #53
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Like 90% of the guys the IWC wants to see pushed look like that. At least he comes off as a cook who could kick someone's ass.
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Old 05-22-2015, 09:15 PM   #54
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He's gritty. He's not your usual cartoony heel. He's a dick that says all these reassuring things about his family and this being just a day at the office. In the ring, he muscles guys around effectively enough that he does look credible. He also pulls off some pretty athletic stuff, so it's not fair to say that he is out of shape, even if he looks it. He's built his body for practicality, and not for fashion.

The dude might not look like a bad-ass, but he is a bad-ass. Aesthetically, the dude doesn't even wear proper wrestling attire. He just puts on his fighting clothes and goes and fights. There's an accessibility there that people can latch onto.

Plus he's a great chickenshit heel. It doesn't always make sense for a bad-ass to run from his opponents, but the way Owens does it makes it seem like strategy, with a little aura of "maybe this guy can beat me if I'm not careful." He sells his opponents in the ring, even as he cockily no-sells them on the microphone.

I haven't been as into the act as others, but I'm genuinely excited to see him work with Cena. I think he's an anti-Cena type that we haven't seen before. I think they could become great rivals. And the dude has apparently got himself into better shape, and he likely will continue to do so as he goes on.
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Old 05-22-2015, 09:15 PM   #55
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Vince and Kevin Dunn obviously believe in him enough. He's enough of a "different vibe" that he actually somewhat meets their "eye test."
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Old 05-22-2015, 09:44 PM   #56
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After his promo on Cena, very easy to believe he wasn't running from Joe, just waiting for the chance to make it matter, aka paid appearance. Owens' character wouldn't mix it up with Samoa Joe for free after a title defense. The man has to support his family after all.
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Old 05-22-2015, 09:47 PM   #57
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But yes, the practicality of his character, the way he carries himself both on the mic and through ring work makes me a believer. He stood eye to eye with Cena, in front of arguably the largest American audience in his career, and sold himself like he'd been there the whole time. He's a natural.

Not to mention, he'll turn face at some point, and when he does the same shit bag heel that makes you hate will be easy to get behind when he does turn.
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I really think that a Kevin Owens vs. Tyler Breeze feud could be money. I have no clue who I'd rather see play the face and the heel, but the dynamic there could be easily mined.
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Could have Owens destroy Breeze's face via punches, face stomps, maybe a belt shot, and put him out for a while. The beating ruins Breeze's face, costing him, for now, his modeling career, endorsements, etc. His life falls apart while being on the shelf. He returns with a vengeance against Owens. You can redo his model gimmick from there and move him up the main roster.
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Sounds like a good possible route. You could also just have Breeze call Owens an "uggo" and have Owens beat the shit out of him leading to some matches.
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Then after the redemption, the crowd can chant "you're still gorgeous" to push Breeze back into the model gimmick.
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It'd be similar to the "Undashing" Cody Rhodes gimmick, but it could work. I'd honestly rather see them take that direction with Fandango, to be honest. Have someone take out his leg, then he plays a bit of "Phantom of the Opera" by hiding in the shadows, then he returns all bad-ass.

Breeze's model gimmick can work forever.
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He should become the goon for the authority after Kane turns face.
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Kevin Owens is basically UFC fighter Tank Abbott who I loved. Let's hope Owens isn't managing a 3 Count reunion in 6 months.
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How does he look Heavily Armored Battle Midget? This whole thread is garbage!

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I feel like he has a better look than Kassius Ohno. Ohno had this like doughy hairy gross body and just looked like a bum. Whereas Owen is just big, burly and mean, he's not half assing it. It's like in hollywood, you either have to be fat or skinny, not in between.
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Ohno just looked like a 50 year old slob who spends his days in a trailer park drinking MGD all day
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I didn't mind Ohno's look. It was the same sort of "my body is built for efficiency and not aesthetics." When he growled and stuff I felt that it sort of missed the mark however. It just felt...disjointed. The whole gimmick took itself really seriously, and Owens is doing the same thing now and it's somehow working. Ohno should have been cockier. "God's Gift to Professional Wrestling" or something. He should have had robes and capes as the announcers put over how he doesn't look the part -- then he kicked ass.
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Old 05-23-2015, 01:54 AM   #71
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I've seen him wrestle but many have not and they think he looks like a HABM. Describe for them how he isn't just some fat dude in basketball shorts and a wife beater.
Quite simply, because he's being built as a badass, and not as a fat neckbeard.

His "selfish, disingenuous dick" schtick on the mic is helpful to that end, but ultimately, he hasn't been torn down to be remade in WWEs image. They didn't act as though he just walked in out of nowhere and just became a wrestler the day he appeared on NXT. He's been booked to look legit, put over on commentary, unburdened by some gimmick that would hamstring him with trying to portray some abstract idea, and all around just handled well. They didn't put him in a "why should the audience care?" position, and it doesn't look like they're going to anytime soon.

And as long as they continue a slow build and not a cannon blasting hotshot to the top of the main roster by this Survivor Series, he should be fine.
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Lol remember when Matt Hardy came back to the WWE with his gut hanging over his tights?
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If Matt Hardy came back to WWE, would Owens call him a "motherfucker on national TV" again?
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Old 05-23-2015, 11:45 AM   #73
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No, his mother died at a young age. That's not PG.
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Old 05-23-2015, 08:06 PM   #75
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Pretty much everything that can be said already has. He carries himself well and he has a legit badass vibe to him. He's the kind of guy that can actually be scary to someone over the age of 12 because he genuinely seems like the kind of guy you'd meet in a bar who would kick your teeth in.
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Old 05-24-2015, 01:03 PM   #76
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All about the booking, really... just the matter of how he is presented to us....

If he came in, just did a bunch of squash matches and then jobbed a few times to Baron Corbin or someone, people wouldn't care about him as much. (NXT fans would still care because they are a "smart crowd")
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They should give him a FBDV gimmick.
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Old 05-24-2015, 01:06 PM   #78
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I don't know what that means....

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It'd be a Fat Basement-Dwelling Virgin gimmick. Otherwise known as the St Jimmy gimmick
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That would be a cool storyline... reveal that the "family/wife/son" he is always talking about are fake and that he lives in his mom's basement and never "gets any", hence why he is so SICK AND SADISTIC in the ring.
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