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Old 06-05-2013, 12:52 AM   #81
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Yet somehow Randy Orton continues to be a bigger star than nearly the entire roster.

And the Michael Bay Transformers movies make hundreds of millions of dollars. "Popular" does not equate to "good."
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Old 06-05-2013, 12:52 AM   #82
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Praising one guy's slow motion promo style while bashing the exact same thing about another guy is fucking retarded.

What an absurd notion!
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Old 06-05-2013, 12:55 AM   #83
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And the Michael Bay Transformers movies make hundreds of millions of dollars. "Popular" does not equate to "good."
And there are definitely people who find whatever movie you probably swear is amazing to be a pile of shit. So clearly you're wrong there.
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Old 06-05-2013, 12:55 AM   #84
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People have already explained the differences between them.

Again, there's no point engaging you. I'm sure you're being sincere, but you're just wrong.
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Old 06-05-2013, 12:56 AM   #85
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And there are definitely people who find whatever movie you probably swear is amazing to be a pile of shit. So clearly you're wrong there.
What does that have to do with anything?
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I'm not going to endlessly repeat the reasons, already given in this thread, that Orton is really bad at his job. It's a waste of time, because nobody's mind will be changed.
I feel like CSL came up with this idea like 2 pages ago.
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Old 06-05-2013, 12:56 AM   #87
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And there are definitely people who find whatever movie you probably swear is amazing to be a pile of shit. So clearly you're wrong there.
Those people are idiots with bad taste. So clearly you're wrong, period.
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People have already explained the differences between them.

Again, there's no point engaging you. I'm sure you're being sincere, but you're just wrong.
THEY'RE BOTH DOING IT BECAUSE IT FITS THEIR CHARACTER. YOU EITHER FIND IT ANNOYING OR YOU DON'T.

Jesus. lol
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Randy Orton might be the lamest cause for an argument ever.
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Old 06-05-2013, 12:59 AM   #90
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THEY'RE BOTH DOING IT BECAUSE IT FITS THEIR CHARACTER. YOU EITHER FIND IT ANNOYING OR YOU DON'T.

Jesus. lol
You're not comprehending what anyone is saying, and your replies reflect this. You should probably tag out for CSL.
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And there are definitely people who find whatever movie you probably swear is amazing to be a pile of shit. So clearly you're wrong there.
Way to miss 100% of the point. That is astonishing.
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Those people are idiots with bad taste.
We could very well enjoy the same movies. If we do, those who disagree with us are idiots with bad taste.

Unfortunately we differ on Randy Orton and you fall on the "idiots with bad taste" side.
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Like we're using bandwidth arguing about Randy Orton.
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It's a fucking Tables, Ladders and Podcast troll party in here.
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Randy Orton might be the lamest cause for an argument ever.
Y'know, I'm in agreement. I don't even seriously dislike the guy as much as Jabba or AL; I just don't see the appeal, nor do I accept "it's popular therefore it's good" as a valid argument.
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Old 06-05-2013, 01:02 AM   #96
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It's a fucking Tables, Ladders and Podcast troll party in here.
Well, yeah, it's our show; naturally we're gonna be active in it and defend the points we make.
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It's a fucking Tables, Ladders and Podcast troll party in here.
Wait... What? You're trying to be a troll, but you're announcing it? And you actually believe the things you're saying?

That's not trolling. That's just being obtuse.
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It's a fucking Tables, Ladders and Podcast troll party in here.
You're being kind of silly. Why would we not interact in our own thread? And nobody is trolling.
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It's a "the point of this thread" party in here, plus one troll.
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I just don't see the appeal, nor do I accept "it's popular therefore it's good" as a valid argument.
It's not actually a good argument. But it worked in response to Jabba's "You're wrong" argument.
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It's not actually a good argument. But it worked in response to Jabba's "You're wrong" argument.
Oh, clearly.
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I mean... "No, you're wrong" could have worked too I guess.
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Marvel as my, admittedly ineffective and inaccurate, argument works.
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I mean... "No, you're wrong" could have worked too I guess.
Not as well as considering information and assessing facts.

But, WHATEVER.
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Not as well as considering information and assessing facts.

But, WHATEVER.
No, YOU suck at assessing facts.

Man, I'm liking this strategy.
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Old 06-05-2013, 01:08 AM   #108
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To me he's very boring and predictable in the ring. The slow pace for a guy like him is just torture to the audience. Also, as stated, his promo work is pretty abysmal compared to others in the company.

I don't hate him or anything, it's just when people are huge marks for him I have a "What, really?" moment.
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But Narc, people have said "but he's good". I don't think you see how flawless and informative that kind of argument really is.
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But Narc, people have said "but he's good". I don't think you see how flawless and informative that kind of argument really is.
Not nearly as flawless and informative as the "but you're wrong" response.

Flawless.
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Well, if people say he's good then I'm in. I didn't know that.
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Not nearly as flawless and informative as the "but you're wrong" response.

Flawless.
This is a most fascinating post. It implies that the reasoning behind what makes Orton a terrible professional wrestler had not yet been offered. A strange suggestion, given that numerous and prominent reasons have been given. Oddly, it is the "but he's good" crowd who has offered nothing but "he's the master of psychology" with no actual definitions or examples thereof. It's almost like there aren't any, and instead of making arguments to support your actual "Orton doesn't suck entertainment like a whirlpool gobbling a dingy" stance, you've now started attacking a notion that isn't really something the Anti-Orton people have said.

Most fascinating, indeed.
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This is a most fascinating post. It implies that the reasoning behind what makes Orton a terrible professional wrestler had not yet been offered.
Now let's explain.

You see: The reasoning behind "what makes Orton a terrible professional wrestler" has been offered.

Unfortunately, the reasoning behind what makes Orton a great professional wrestler has also been offered.

It's strange. Those two ideas seem to contradict themselves. It's almost like it's less of a "YOU'RE SO WRONG! NUH UH! ALL YOU'RE SAYING IS 'HE'S GOOD!'" issue and more of a you refuse to find any points on the latter opinion valid. As I've done with the former.

But yeah, resorting to "You're wrong! You're just not listening!" and ignoring the other side's reasoning is a great way to make yourself feel like your reasoning is somehow more valid.
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So, you're just going to dance like a very desperate bear instead of responding. Got it.
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A strange suggestion, given that numerous and prominent reasons have been given. Oddly, it is the "but he's good" crowd who has offered nothing but "he's the master of psychology" with no actual definitions or examples thereof.
And this is the part where you just ignore the upcoming quotes and pretend what you just said is true to try to validate your point to yourself...

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Orton is quite possibly the best in-ring psychologist in wrestling today. The man can be jobbed left and right and be involved in boring storylines and still get the crowd going during his matches (Post-WrestleMania crowd excluded but... I mean... come on.)
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As a face he was fucking money in the Christian feud and in the Mark Henry feud. If you want a good example of how amazing Orton is in the ring just look at those Mark Henry matches. The one where he lost the title and the Hell in a Cell rematch. Probably the best matches Mark Henry has ever had. I can't even think of a close third. Instead of Henry just looking like a generic monster they actually put on matches that made it seem like Orton was a stud but just couldn't quite overcome. It was awesome storytelling. Storytelling you can't find most of the time in today's WWE where every match is basically the same.
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Now let's explain.

You see: The reasoning behind "what makes Orton a terrible professional wrestler" has been offered.

Unfortunately, the reasoning behind what makes Orton a great professional wrestler has also been offered.

It's strange. Those two ideas seem to contradict themselves. It's almost like it's less of a "YOU'RE SO WRONG! NUH UH! ALL YOU'RE SAYING IS 'HE'S GOOD!'" issue and more of a you refuse to find any points on the latter opinion valid. As I've done with the former.

But yeah, resorting to "You're wrong! You're just not listening!" and ignoring the other side's reasoning is a great way to make yourself feel like your reasoning is somehow more valid.
Also, the irony of starting this uselessness with "Let's explain" is fucking staggering.
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Orton is also a known huge fucking asshole as well. He got Amy Weber, Palmer Cannon, and Ken Kennedy fired because he's a child. On top of that, he's fairly unreliable, as he's had a couple wellness violations. When I add these things to him not entertaining me, it becomes clear (to me at least) that this guy should not be invested in too much further.
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