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Old 05-26-2015, 09:43 AM   #1
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Bleacher Report rant.... A Love/Hate relationship....
I my wrestling news fix from various sources, podcasts, and YouTube channels.

Then there is Bleacher Report....

I really don't think they have a really good bead on wrestling. Well at least some of the writers. The guy that writes the Arm Chair booking is pretty good. They do a admirable job on NXT reports. But everything else is a coin flip. What got me was when they said that NXT needed to start home growing talent instead of raiding the indies because the Indy style yields a short shelf life in the WWE when they start going on the road. They listed Sami Zayn and Daniel Bryan as examples.

But I think we know better. Have they ever heard of RVD? Neville is doing pretty well since he arrived. They don't point out that some of these injuries were left just patched up because you don't make enough money to get the treatment that WWE can offer. My example of this is when my favorite Indy women's wrestler Athena had to save up to get the treatment that she needed.

Check out the team stream if you dare and try not to super kick your screen at some of the crazy stuff that comes out. Heck they even stop checking out TNA and they don't cover Lucha Underground or ROH. As a true wrestling reporter isn't one of the goals to grow the fan base of the lesser known sport? I don't care how few people watch Impact, it's on and they should cover it to bring attention to it.

My advice, get my hometown hero Mike Mooneyham in the mix and have him write or at least edit some of these articles. So they don't sound like utter and complete crazies....

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Old 05-26-2015, 11:26 AM   #2
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I imagine the hits they get on their site when discussing WWE in a given week dwarfs whatever hits they would get from an entire year's worth of TNA coverage. Why bother?

The rest of this just seems more suited to the comments section of an actual BR column.
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Old 05-26-2015, 05:27 PM   #3
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Lol nobody cares about TNA/ROH/etc.

And he's 100% about the indy style causing injuries.
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Old 05-27-2015, 05:40 AM   #4
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I love it when they post things like "5 reasons Ryback MUST beat Bray Wyatt"; and then someone posts "Bray Wyatt is ruined if he doesn't win". Then they both turn out to be wrong. I sometimes go there for a read because I love reading about wrestling, but some of them are obviously just fans having a chin-wag.
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I sometimes go there for a read because I love reading about wrestling, but some of them are obviously just fans having a chin-wag.
This is why I read bleacher report, because they do a good job on sports reporting as a whole. The comments are terrible period. The reason I brought it over here is because the community over here is more knowledgeable even though we have our share of trollers over here. I enjoy the fact that I can get information on anything by asking.
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Old 05-27-2015, 08:04 AM   #6
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Lol nobody cares about TNA/ROH/etc.

And he's 100% about the indy style causing injuries.
As much as I respect your knowledge I have to disagree to a point. Wrestling causes injuries. Regardless of style. NJPW is very physical and these wrestlers can wrestle well into the golden age.

The issue is the fact that WWE has no real off time for the body to recover. I think if the WWE rotated guys on and off shows, I think the injuries will be kept to a minimum.
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This is why I read bleacher report, because they do a good job on sports reporting as a whole. The comments are terrible period. The reason I brought it over here is because the community over here is more knowledgeable even though we have our share of trollers over here. I enjoy the fact that I can get information on anything by asking.
To be fair, the comments section of every website ever is going to be the eventual downfall of the human race.
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Old 05-27-2015, 11:21 AM   #15
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As much as I respect your knowledge I have to disagree to a point. Wrestling causes injuries. Regardless of style. NJPW is very physical and these wrestlers can wrestle well into the golden age.

The issue is the fact that WWE has no real off time for the body to recover. I think if the WWE rotated guys on and off shows, I think the injuries will be kept to a minimum.
I'm going to respectfully disagree. These guys literally kill themselves on the indies. By the time they hit their 30's, they have a lot of miles on them already. That combined with the fact that the WWE style has been influenced by the indies and way more physical than before, it leqds to issues like this. Now of course there are exceptions, but I definitely see their point.
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I'm going to respectfully disagree. These guys literally kill themselves on the indies. By the time they hit their 30's, they have a lot of miles on them already. That combined with the fact that the WWE style has been influenced by the indies and way more physical than before, it leqds to issues like this. Now of course there are exceptions, but I definitely see their point.
This is off topic slightly, but this is why I like this site better than Bleacher Report, I get more intelligent convo here than over there. We can respect and still disagree...

You do make valid points... Time will tell as the Indy darlings come to the main roster and deal with he grind. Then we can revisit and speak on this again.
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Old 05-29-2015, 08:17 PM   #17
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I'm going to respectfully disagree. These guys literally kill themselves on the indies. By the time they hit their 30's, they have a lot of miles on them already. That combined with the fact that the WWE style has been influenced by the indies and way more physical than before, it leqds to issues like this. Now of course there are exceptions, but I definitely see their point.
This might be an insightful statement if it weren't for the fact that many guys that wrestle the "WWE style" also end up getting plenty of injuries. Ryback, Sheamus, Cena, and Orton have all had plenty of injuries that have put them out for months on end. And don't gimme that "it's more prevalent in the indy guys" shtick. Daniel Bryan is injury prone, yes, but Daniel Bryan is one man. Ken Anders/Kennedy wrestled a pretty tame style and he got injured just as often as Bryan. Yes, doing 50 back-flips every match is going to cause extra wear and tear but the vast majority of guys doing it don't get hurt any faster than the WWE guys. Even for WWE style guys the shelf life of a wrestler is still only a decade or so. The majority of guys don't make it past 40 in the business regardless of style.
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He was arguing wear and tear. Not injuries. The comparison between all those "non-indy" guys and Daniel Bryan doesn't work.
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He was arguing wear and tear. Not injuries. The comparison between all those "non-indy" guys and Daniel Bryan doesn't work.
I didn't compare any of them to Daniel Bryan. I actually said he would be right in the case of Bryan. In fact the only person I compared to Bryan at all was Anderson/Kennedy. Those "non-indy" guys I mentioned were just being used as examples of guys that work very "safe" styles yet still get injured just as frequently as the ones working more indy inspired styles.

As for wear and tear I never said it didn't cause wear and tear. However, Gertner would apparently have you believe the style causes guys to have drastically shorter careers overall when that's statistically not really the case.
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So cute how you don't counter arguments and just hurl insults at people. You're one of the few constants in an ever changing world, Gerty.
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He was arguing wear and tear. Not injuries. The comparison between all those "non-indy" guys and Daniel Bryan doesn't work.
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Those "non-indy" guys I mentioned were just being used as examples of guys that work very "safe" styles yet still get injured just as frequently as the ones working more indy inspired styles.
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"As a true wrestling reporter isn't one of the goals to grow the fan base of the lesser known sport?"

No, a wrestling reporter doesn't have to point out indy feds if they don't want to. If they don't think the company is newsworthy they don't cover it. Or if the audience demands that they cover it than it will be covered.

They cover what is popular so it will be read and commented on. They don't have to point out things that people should watch. They aren't advertisers. They are reporters.
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