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Old 12-05-2013, 07:26 PM   #161
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Apparently the Mariners are willing to offer Cano 10 years/230-240M.

I don't think the Yankees are getting near that number.
WiiU must have sold well over in Japan.

Let Seattle jump on board the Titanic with us. The Angels did when they signed Pujols to that mega deal. Look how that's turned out.
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Jay-Z asked for 10 years, 252 mil from Seattle. They're now out of the bidding.
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Lol turning down 9 years at $225 million.

I still believe he will come back to the Bronx. His price will drop further as I can't see anyone else coming close to what Seattle was offering.

Maybe he was always looking to stay with the Yankees at around $190-200 million and they were just stringing Seattle along to try and force the Yankees' hand.
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Of course he's stringing the Mariners along. Everyone does
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Holy shit now it sounds like the Mariners might cave for 10 years, around $240 million.
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ESPN is saying they've agreed to to 10/$240
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Granderson to the Mets! They gave him the 4th year.

With Granderson and Chris Young, the Mets should get a lot more power production from their outfield and fantastic defense paired with Lagares. A shitload of K's but I'll take it.
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Good for Mets/Grandy. Always liked him, got into a bad string of getting hit. Since he won't be on the Yankees, pitchers will throw at him less.
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Thanks for your service, Grandy & Cano.

Well, $189 is looking pretty real right now.
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From ESPN and Rotoworld:

* Mariners are currently be interested in Bartolo Colon, David Price, Shin-Soo Choo, Carlos Beltran, and Nelson Cruz

* Rangers signed J.P. Arencibia

* Rangers currently the frontrunners to get Mike Napoli with the Red Sox as #2. Marlins and Mariners also interested in him.

* Yankees close to resigning Hiroki Kuroda to a 1 year, $16 million deal

* Dodgers resigned Brian Wilson to a 1 year, $10 million deal.
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Thanks for your service, Grandy & Cano.

Well, $189 is looking pretty real right now.
$189M, a horrible Ellsbury contract and no playoffs.

The Ellsbury contract really doesn't make a lot of sense to me in any scenario. Adding him with Cano is the only situation where I could maybe understand. Him instead of Cano is a pretty huge step back now though.
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Not even with the addition of McCann?
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$189M, a horrible Ellsbury contract and no playoffs.

The Ellsbury contract really doesn't make a lot of sense to me in any scenario. Adding him with Cano is the only situation where I could maybe understand. Him instead of Cano is a pretty huge step back now though.
I'd rather that money go towards getting some pitching. Nova and CC, until Kuroda's deal gets done, are the only two pitchers in the rotation.
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Ellsbury is 5.8 WAR. Way above the other OFs. Cano is 6 even.

Ill take that trade off. If the Yanks play it safe they can land Infante and Jacoby for a lot less than Cano on MUCH shorter deals and come out ahead.
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Ellsbury is 5.8 WAR. Way above the other OFs. Cano is 6 even.

Ill take that trade off. If the Yanks play it safe they can land Infante and Jacoby for a lot less than Cano on MUCH shorter deals and come out ahead.
Ellsbury was also 1.4, 9.2, -0.2, 2.1, 4.1 and 1.3 WAR his previous years. Not exactly any model of consistency. I take Cano over Ellsbury/Infante any day.

Not saying I would have gone 10 years for Cano but I would have upped the offer if I was the Yankees and at least make him think a little about it. Sticking firm at 170M obviously meant Cano was leaving.
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Carlos Beltran lands in Yankeeland. 3-years, $45 mil.

We got ourselves quite the party in the outfield.
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Yankees need to do something about those outfielders. A bunch of reporters have thrown out a crosstown Daniel Murphy for Brett Gardner trade possibility.

I don't get it. Gardner would instantly be the Mets' best leadoff hitter option but losing Murphy would still be an overall downgrade for the lineup. Also Gardner is a free agent after 2014 whereas Murphy will be under team control through 2015. Granderson-Lagares-Chris Young with Eric Young Jr. as a roving 4th outfielder should be fine.
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All these moves seem outlandish at first glance.

Are the Mariners really doing this?? I memba when the internet got hot n heavy when Jack Z built a team all around pitching and defense (Franklin Gutierrez and Jose Lopez were hitting 3 and 4....yup) and it bombed horribly. Now he's just going balls out. Bet he's fired mid season.

Thought the Yanks were trying to trim payroll. Not thinking they were going to retool or anything but they'be tried this before with "meh" results. Picturing Jacoby losing his legs and just being super expensive Johnny Damon. Great thing about being the Yankees is one contract won't cripple your franchise like a Vernon Wells deal does to a team like the Jays.

Yeah...Thought Detroit knew how good Fister was.

Thought the A's learned their lesson after giving Ben Sheets $10 mil to rehab. how does anyone trust Kazmir for anything more than a year?

Granderson makes the Mets....what? Maybe a .500 team? Is there something they have that I'm missing? Matt Harvey is out all year, right?

Long time to go before Ps & Cs report, but this is a strange time on the hot stove.
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Ugh. Rakuten Golden Eagles must have caved. New NPB posting rules might go into effect this week. Any team who ponies up $20 mil. will be able to negotiate with the player.

No more highest bid, exclusive negotiation rights.
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Why ugh? Just adds another free agent to the pool but add $20 mil.

If ugh is for the Eagles not being able to cash out on Tanaka, then Yah.
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Kinda that.

But I don't like how MLB is sorta being a bully in this. I'm looking at this as being like "If you won't agree to our rules/changes, then your players can't play in MLB"

I liked the silent auction system. Fax over a figure, NPB team will announce the winner on a certain day, and we the fan base can debate on the $ figure.


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Supposedly the biggest proposal left undecided is what happens in case of multiple teams. Small market teams are pushing for the worst record team to get first dibs while bigger teams want the NPB player to decide.

Whole thing revolves around a rumor of the Yankees wanting to go all out with a contract offer if it was up to the NBP player choice without having to worry about the big posting fee needed to be paid to the NPB team and also counting towards the luxury cap.
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That WAS the plan from the get go. Put up a big dollar amount and no one matches us and try to work out a deal.
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Joe Torre, Bobby Cox, and Tony La Russa have been unanimously to the Baseball Hall of Fame by the "expansion era committee".
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Old 12-09-2013, 11:16 AM   #189
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Maybe next year for Dale Sveum
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Old 12-09-2013, 11:17 AM   #190
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Roy Halladay to sign a one day contract with the Blue Jays and retire.
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Old 12-09-2013, 11:39 AM   #191
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Roy Halladay to sign a one day contract with the Blue Jays and retire.
Bummer

Always loved watching him pitch.
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Old 12-09-2013, 08:52 PM   #192
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Mark Prior officially hangs up the cleats.

Fucking hate Dusty Baker so much.
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Old 12-09-2013, 10:25 PM   #193
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Matt Kemp to the Mariners?

what do you think about that senerio
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Kevin Towers is a madman right now.

Trying to swing a deal for Trumbo, potentially sign Shin Soo Choo, and then another free agent SP. Crazy.
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Old 12-10-2013, 11:02 AM   #195
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Is it even allowed in sports for someone to retire while being beloved by both Toronto and Philadelphia fans? Halladay broke the rules!
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Old 12-10-2013, 11:35 AM   #196
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Old 12-10-2013, 04:20 PM   #197
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Tigers sign Rajai Davis. 2-years, $10 mil.

D-Backs, Angels, and ChiSox work out a 3-team trade. With Mark Trumbo as the centerpiece.

D-Backs get Mark Trumbo, A.J. Schugel, and a PTBNL.

ChiSox get Adam Eaton

Angels get Hector Santiago and Tyler Skaggs.
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Old 12-10-2013, 04:55 PM   #198
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Rockies got Brett Anderson which I'm very excited about

until his arm explodes
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Old 12-10-2013, 05:15 PM   #199
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Who doesn't get excited for a 6.00+ era.
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goddammit, I'm going to miss Adam Eaton.
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