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Old 08-25-2012, 09:46 PM   #121
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Where can somebody take the idea, though? What would be worthy.
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Old 08-26-2012, 11:01 AM   #122
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I still think the theme I described is correct which is why Dutch told Anna that the Predator didn't kill her because she wasn't armed and there was no sport in killing an unarmed person, and also why all the human characters in "Predators" were predators themselves that were given dangerous weapons to defend themselves against the alien Predators because there is a sport in going after them and it's all fair.

"Predators" would have been a rip-off if it totally copied "Predator". The first was about one Predator taking on a group of soldiers and was a classic tale of good vs. evil. It also served as a Vietnam parable. A bunch of bad-asses out in the deep jungle facing an enemy who is "alien" to them and they can never see it, but it's always watching them.

And the last film is about a bunch of predators - Human and Alien and the suspense is that they are all dangerous. And there were some more extreme characters who were quick to anger and violence that would show a random act of kindness, just to show the audience that they are people too, but then later on.....they do something totally shocking, selfish, and violent! To remind the audience that they are STILL dangerous people. Then the film has more quiet and passive characters who are slow to anger and violence and appear to be caring, sane, and unselfish, but then they will shock you when they become violent or selfish to remind the audience again -That these are dangerous people.

So that's where the suspense came for me. You not only had to worry about the alien predators, but you had to worry about the human predators as well.


If this film was about a bunch of cops and soldiers who landed on that planet, and they all worked together, even though I'd most likely still enjoy the film for it's visual beauty and because it was about a bunch of alien Predators instead of just one, I probably wouldn't enjoy the film to the extent I do now, and I might be inclined to agree with some of the comments, and think it was a rip-off/remake. But it's the fact that it was a bunch of villains is what made it it's own film and entertaining and gave it that extra edge. When it's a bunch of good people sitting around who all care about each other talking, you feel safe, but when it's a group of dangerous people, you're always on the edge of your seat because not only were you looking for alien predators to come out and attack, but you also know one of those human predators could turn on a character you like at any second.
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Old 08-26-2012, 12:05 PM   #123
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That's cool that you enjoyed it, each to their own, life would be shit if everyone always liked the same things.

I don't actually mind the premise or the characters they created, I just don't think the characters were given a lot of personality, which is down to a writing problem. Other than the 'bitch raping time' scene, making the characters all strangers meant there was little to no comedic relief in the banter. I suppose I unfairly compare it to Predator and even Aliens, because those films gave us time to get used to the characters, and discover their vices and quirks.

How do you find Adrian Brody in the film? I didn't mind him as much as I thought I would, and I understand they wanted the antithesis of Arnold Schwarzenegger in the lead role to help the film stand on it's own, but I dunno, I don't quite buy into him.
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Old 08-27-2012, 11:12 AM   #124
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I agree. I've always believed because we all come from different backgrounds and have had different experiences we're bound to have different likes and dislikes in life. i.e. Be able to relate or not relate to certain songs, films, etc.

I think people like certain films because they represent our memories, fantasies, experiences, fears, misfortunes, and desires. For some of us, filmed depictions of major life experiences ranging from traveling to sexual intercourse to working to violence to socializing and plenty more precede and in some cases even substitute for our actual encounters with them. I think much of what we think we know of life comes not from direct experience, but from simulated experience delivered through vicarious and highly mediated format of motion pictures.

Films also give us the only knowledge we have of races we have never encountered personally, places we have never been to, and experiences we have never had. Thus the way we see, understand, and misunderstand experiences of the past, present, and future are largely shaped by pop culture; and movies, especially those which are very popular demand critical assessment and careful interrogation if we are to understand what they say about the concerns and values of us and our lives.

I think you can tell a lot about a person based on their favorite films if you look deep enough into it. The images we get from movies and other popular culture media, especially the images that are repeated often or are especially popular or powerful, likely influences how we view the world, and how we view ourselves, which in turn must influence how we act in it. Thus films become more than stories or pastimes. They function as myths that are an integral part of the process through which we remember history, interpret experience, and prescribe a course of future action.


Anyhow, I thought Brody was good. I never would have pictured him as a bad-ass, but after seeing him in "Predators" and "The Experiment", I think he is a great action star. He looks more like a realistic bad-ass so it gave the film a sense of realism. Arnold is such a unique actor, but that's why we love him.

And in regards of the characters - Again, it's the mystery behind all of them that adds to the appeal in my view. It makes you watch and listen extra carefully whenever they speak.

I am going to be reading the novel based on the film soon so hopefully I'll get more insight on the characters.
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Old 08-27-2012, 11:41 AM   #125
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I hate when novels are adapted from a film.

No problem with the other way around.
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Old 08-27-2012, 11:58 AM   #126
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I hate when novels are adapted from a film.

No problem with the other way around.
Some are really good though. They go into *a lot* more detail and you can learn a lot about the characters. i.e. Their inner-thoughts.

About two years ago, I discovered that the first four Rocky films had their own novels and it was awesome to find something new in the Rocky universe. (At least they were new from POV.) Reading those books was much like reading a director's cut of the films.

For example - In the Rocky IV novel, it went into great detail about Apollo's training with Rocky in Vegas which we never see the film, but we do in the book and it's highly entertaining.
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Old 08-27-2012, 12:49 PM   #127
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Considering Zeeboe's fascination with "To Catch a Predator" I'm gonna assume that the only reason he watched "Predators" is because he thought it's gonna be about everyday life of pedophiles.
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Old 08-27-2012, 02:02 PM   #128
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Because Zeeboe lives in a world with no trailers or internet news whatsoever, dick.
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Old 08-27-2012, 02:08 PM   #129
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......What the hell? Someone defending *me*?
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Old 08-27-2012, 02:21 PM   #130
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I'd take you over Sixx any day. His attempts at humor and ribs are annoying and reeks of 'internet safety'.
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I'd take you over Sixx any day. His attempts at humor and ribs are annoying and reeks of 'internet safety'.
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You acting tough is just precious. Pose with the Thor's hammer and an angry face maybe?
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