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Old 12-06-2012, 10:25 PM   #41
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...Could be a new villain altogether, or perhaps a mix of two iconic villains. This is an alternate timeline after all.
Good point.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:33 PM   #42
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Personally I am rooting for someone new. Screw "paying homage" with a "new twist" on an "old villain".
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:50 PM   #43
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Personally I am rooting for someone new. Screw "paying homage" with a "new twist" on an "old villain".
Screw "originality."
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Old 12-06-2012, 11:12 PM   #44
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It was revealed several months ago by the writers that it would be one of five classic villians that had already been used in TOS and I recall one of them was Gary Mitchell. The only thing is that he was apparently used in the IDW comic which links the 2 films and dies but not sure under what cicumstances though. That would be a good enough reason for him wanting revenge and as for that final clip it appears to be the reverse angle meaning Spock is on the outside looking in.
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Old 12-06-2012, 11:28 PM   #45
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My favorite comment that I saw online...

"When the Enterprise is ashes... you have my permission to set phasers to kill."

I'm just hoping that the "bad guy" does not turn out to be Khan. I hope that there is absolutely nothing to do with Khan in this film. The writers and Abrams had a reletively clean slate and could have done anything they wanted for this 2nd film. It would be such a shame to "reboot" or "reimagine" Star Trek II.

From seeing this teaser trailer, I'm happy to believe that this film has nothing to do with Khan, despite some comments online of people still believing that due to dialog in the trailer that this looks like Khan.

The most fundamental piece of evidence, Cumberbatch doesn't seem like he would be an east indian dude named Khan.
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Old 12-06-2012, 11:38 PM   #46
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The most fundamental piece of evidence, Cumberbatch doesn't seem like he would be an east indian dude named Khan.
I don't know. Sulu's Asian in this one.
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Old 12-06-2012, 11:55 PM   #47
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Also keep in mind that orignally Benicio Del To Ro was originally cast to play the role but ended turning down for some reason probly due to it conflicting with another project he was in.
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Old 12-07-2012, 12:07 AM   #48
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Personally I am rooting for someone new. Screw "paying homage" with a "new twist" on an "old villain".
They had someone new in the last one. They have already said it was a call-back character from TOS.

Him wearing a starfleet uniform could narrow it down to Garth of Izar, Gary Mitchell (Alice Eve could be Denhar, but could be just a red herring and she's Chapel), or maybe Finnegan Kirk's old nemesis/bully from the Academy days, or Finn from Court Martial episode.

I won't consider the final scene from that Japan trailer until it is seen on American screens. Probably means they cut it from the film and they screwed up.
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Old 12-07-2012, 12:41 AM   #49
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Totally came into this thread wandering what Tb1 would think of the trailer.
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Old 12-07-2012, 10:16 AM   #50
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...Could be a new villain altogether, or perhaps a mix of two iconic villains. This is an alternate timeline after all.
exactly
but some things are inevitable
like Spock's destiny to die.

...type thing...
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:14 AM   #51
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Or, apparently, Kirk and Spock becoming friends.
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Old 12-10-2012, 11:59 PM   #52
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So the villain's name is supposedly John Harrison but it's likely just a code name and Alica Eve has been revealed to be playing Carol Marcus might have to go see that nine minute preview so I can get my fix till May.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:54 AM   #53
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John Harrison? Why, that's the name of the Tribble Commander!
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:02 AM   #54
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So the villain's name is supposedly John Harrison but it's likely just a code name and Alica Eve has been revealed to be playing Carol Marcus might have to go see that nine minute preview so I can get my fix till May.
Alice Eve playing Carol Marcus doesn't make sense. Kirk would have to be gay to let Alice Eve get away.
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:51 PM   #55
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:53 PM   #56
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Not really more informative than the prior teaser.
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Old 12-19-2012, 01:43 PM   #57
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Not a whole lot it just makes us ask more questions and that is very much typical of Abrams and Lindelof they clearly like to mess with the fanboys.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:29 PM   #58
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The preview before the Hobbit was better than the whole of that film.
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Old 03-09-2013, 11:39 PM   #61
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that wasn't a good trailer imo
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Old 03-13-2013, 05:51 PM   #62
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Old 03-14-2013, 11:44 AM   #63
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Not enough Cumberbatch.

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Old 03-14-2013, 12:08 PM   #64
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Women. They tend to be straight for Cumberbatch.
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:53 PM   #68
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i dunno i want to be really excited but in the trailer i saw i am pretty sure there was a shot of the enterprise like rising out of an ocean or something and that kind of made me cringe
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Old 03-21-2013, 11:10 PM   #69
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Yeah, the only thing that's throwing me off is the lack of space. Like, where is it. Where is space
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i dunno i want to be really excited but in the trailer i saw i am pretty sure there was a shot of the enterprise like rising out of an ocean or something and that kind of made me cringe
While I don't dislike the trailers, I have a feeling the crash and rise of the Enterprise from the water were placed in the trailers so audiences would know when to clap like fucking seals.

Besides, a sea liftoff here still looks less terrible than Voyager landing.
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Old 03-22-2013, 10:01 AM   #71
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that was a much better trailer
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While I don't dislike the trailers, I have a feeling the crash and rise of the Enterprise from the water were placed in the trailers so audiences would know when to clap like fucking seals.

Besides, a sea liftoff here still looks less terrible than Voyager landing.
SPOILER: show
The Enterprise coming out of the water happens at a different point in the movie. I saw the 10 minute IMAX preview and they were hiding the Enterprise underwater on some mission so to not break to prime directive. It's been noted on a few sites, but I'm pretty sure that's not the Enterprise that crashes into the bay. Warp nacelles are significantly smaller.
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The Enterprise coming out of the water happens at a different point in the movie. I saw the 10 minute IMAX preview and they were hiding the Enterprise underwater on some mission so to not break to prime directive. It's been noted on a few sites, but I'm pretty sure that's not the Enterprise that crashes into the bay. Warp nacelles are significantly smaller.
If you quickly pause it at 1:53 as the ship is about to fall into the atmosphere you can easily the registry is NCC-1701 what a pity.
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The Enterprise coming out of the water happens at a different point in the movie. I saw the 10 minute IMAX preview and they were hiding the Enterprise underwater on some mission so to not break to prime directive. It's been noted on a few sites, but I'm pretty sure that's not the Enterprise that crashes into the bay. Warp nacelles are significantly smaller.
As Xcaliber pointed out, it's definitely the Enterprise that crashes. At least, it's what's shot down. I don't know about the nacelles being smaller either. They look the right size to me, though I don't have any precise nacelle-measuring technique.

I did presume the water liftoff was from the same circumstances because of the bitching that everything happens on Earth and there's no space or whatever. If that's not the case, that's not the case. But the Enterprise does appear to be going down at some point in this movie.
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my complaint with the water lift-off isn't even that it's not in space, it's just a fucking stupid idea

also i don't really need to see the enterprise crash again, y'know. about the only redeeming thing in all of generations was the saucer crash so
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my complaint with the water lift-off isn't even that it's not in space, it's just a fucking stupid idea
Sweetie, we weren't talking about you:

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Yeah, the only thing that's throwing me off is the lack of space. Like, where is it. Where is space
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I've seen similar comments elsewhere, for the record.
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no i know you weren't talking about me but i was just saying that my issue with it wasn't that

kind of like "i agree, but not for the same reasons"

or whatever

it doesn't matter, the point is: it's stupid and i don't want to see the enterprise crash again
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my complaint with the water lift-off isn't even that it's not in space, it's just a fucking stupid idea

also i don't really need to see the enterprise crash again, y'know. about the only redeeming thing in all of generations was the saucer crash so
Um?

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As Xcaliber pointed out, it's definitely the Enterprise that crashes. At least, it's what's shot down. I don't know about the nacelles being smaller either. They look the right size to me, though I don't have any precise nacelle-measuring technique.

I did presume the water liftoff was from the same circumstances because of the bitching that everything happens on Earth and there's no space or whatever. If that's not the case, that's not the case. But the Enterprise does appear to be going down at some point in this movie.
alright, here's me unnecessarily dissecting a scene from a movie that hasn't come out yet

OK

"new" enterprise



notice how close, and large, the necelles on the new Enterprise are in comparison to the smaller, and further apart nacelles of the one on the left. Now, I'm not denying that's a shot of the Enterprise falling to Earth, it certainly is. Just judging from the few shots I've seen, it doesn't look like the Enterprise. See nacelles:





in comparison to



check out those tiny nacelles that are years apart in comparison to those big, close honkers of the Enterprise.

IN MY OPINION BOYS, not the Enterprise
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