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Old 09-08-2005, 08:29 PM   #1
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Spiderman 3 Villians Announced....
With word going around that Spiderman 3 will be the final Spiderman movie for now from Raimi many were waiting to see who the villain would be

Many believed that after what happened in the end of the last movie that James Franco would portray the Green Goblin 2. Rumours also went around that The Chameleon would be the villian due to the fact that Thomas Haden Church and Topher Grace were both signed on to be bad guys.

Well the verdict is in and Freeze Dried Movies finally got the heads up on who the new villians are for Spiderman 3...

James Franco will be Hobgoblin

Thomas Haden Church will be Sandman

and.....


wait for it....



Topher Grace will be.........Venom

Here is the link for the scoop...

http://www.freezedriedmovies.com/new...ll&NewsID=3355

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Old 09-08-2005, 09:10 PM   #4
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Venom Fuck ya!!!!!!!. Topher Grace though?
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Having Venom in this movie is a bad idea. Baaaaaaaaaaaad idea.
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Venom, awesome. I think that's bad casting and I think he deserves his own movie instead of being one of 3, but it's Venom, and I'm happy.
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Having Venom in this movie is a bad idea. Baaaaaaaaaaaad idea.
I know you're reasoning, but what if this movie doesn't get 1 or 2 more sequels? Then we would of never seen Venom. It's not like it's a shoe-in for 5 more sequels or something.

But Hobgolblin

I never knew Green Goblin's son turned into Hobgoblin.
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Venoms cool and all. But this better be like a 3 hour+ movie so they explain his origin properly
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I know you're reasoning, but what if this movie doesn't get 1 or 2 more sequels? Then we would of never seen Venom. It's not like it's a shoe-in for 5 more sequels or something.

But Hobgolblin

I never knew Green Goblin's son turned into Hobgoblin.
He didnt, he was the 4th Green Goblin
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but Franko was Green Goblin's son in the movie right?

And it says he's playing Hobgoblin

So what am I missing here?
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WOAH Sandman too. Didn't even see him before. Gonna be a kickass movie
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but Franko was Green Goblin's son in the movie right?

And it says he's playing Hobgoblin

So what am I missing here?
What you're missing here is what's said on the webpage linked.

He's playing the first Hobgoblin, not Green Goblin II as in the comics.

Spider-Man doesn't shoot webbing out of his wrists, and his first opponent was not Green Goblin. They are taking liberties.

Venom=bad idea. Without any build, he's gonna be fucking stupid.
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What you're missing here is what's said on the webpage linked.

He's playing the first Hobgoblin, not Green Goblin II as in the comics.

Spider-Man doesn't shoot webbing out of his wrists, and his first opponent was not Green Goblin. They are taking liberties.

Venom=bad idea. Without any build, he's gonna be fucking stupid.
oh my bad, should of read the article

I loved Hobgoblin in the cartoon and in a few of the comics I have. MMy favorite goblin is Demogoblin though. He looks badass.
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The Demonic Hobgoblin and Demogoblin (Who was Hobgoblin's "Doppleganger" from a Marvel-Wide story arc) were the best incarnations. I didn't like Hobgoblin that much otherwise, he was a petty thug who used the Goblin formula.

I actually like the idea of Harry becoming the Hobgoblin though, instead of another Green Goblin. They're really gonna have to alter Venom though, if they're gonna include him. So far the villains have been true to form with minor changes. Usually to better fit the era and the format (movie vs comic)...Venom's gonna require a lot, or they're going to have to truncate a lot of shit. Either way, I'm gonna have major issues.
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I know you're reasoning, but what if this movie doesn't get 1 or 2 more sequels? Then we would of never seen Venom. It's not like it's a shoe-in for 5 more sequels or something.

But Hobgolblin

I never knew Green Goblin's son turned into Hobgoblin.
He didn't. Hobgoblin was Roderick Kingsley, a retired businessman and professional criminal. He and another criminal found Norman Osborn's old lairs, which had his costumes, weapons and journals in them. So Kingsley killed the other guy (George someone, I think. ) and went about systematically looting the Green Goblin's old lairs and altered the costume slightly to become Hobgoblin.

Harry Osborn became the second Green Goblin, and had serious problems with drugs. He died later on as an apparent result of the Green Goblin formula.
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Oh. Yeah. What Kane said.
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Except for the 'Spider-Man not shooting webbing out of his wrists' bit. In Ultimate Spider-Man, he does have organic webshooters.
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I know you're reasoning, but what if this movie doesn't get 1 or 2 more sequels? Then we would of never seen Venom. It's not like it's a shoe-in for 5 more sequels or something.

But Hobgolblin

I never knew Green Goblin's son turned into Hobgoblin.
There is talk of there being 6 Spiderman movies total.
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I forgot which symbiote came from space in the series: Venom or Carnage?
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Venom=bad idea. Without any build, he's gonna be fucking stupid.
This will not be the only movie involving Venom. I heard rumours that Topher might have signed a 3 movie deal. Plenty of time to build the character.

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Venom Fuck ya!!!!!!!. Topher Grace though?
I like Topher as Eddie Brock. He is taller and a bit more built than Tobey and I think they are making Vemon the "anti-spiderman", which he already is in the comics but.... for the movie it might be where the suit is what makes Venom bigger and Eddie Brock really doesn't have to be a huge guy. Just a normal guy like Peter Parker is. Could work out great.
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ok cool. Thanks for the lesson guys

I'm glad they got Doc Ock out of the way, cause I never really liked him at all. He's probably my least favorite major spidey villan.

The first comic I ever bought was Sandman vs Spiderman and I enjoyed Sandman a lot. I hope they do six movies because I really want to see the Carnage stuff. Those Maximum Carnage Issues are my fav comics I own. So many different characters in them.
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I forgot which symbiote came from space in the series: Venom or Carnage?
Spiderman got the black symbiote costume during the Secret Wars. It then went to Eddie Brock (creating Venom). While Eddie escaped from jail, some of the symbiote was left behind. Eddie's cell mate Cletus Kasady "hooked up with it" to create Carnage.
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With word going around that Spiderman 3 will be the final Spiderman movie for now from Raimi many were waiting to see who the villain would be
Sam knows better than to bring in Vemon for the last movie. From what I understand, he already has treatments for 3 more scripts.

6 movies in all.
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Except for the 'Spider-Man not shooting webbing out of his wrists' bit. In Ultimate Spider-Man, he does have organic webshooters.
And of course Ultimate Spider-Man is so close to the original. Sorry, doesn't really count. Otherwise, the Green Goblin's Origin is all wrong.

Maybe he developed them later in the series (I bought the first two collections), but even in Ultimate I saw him using web shooters. Based on a formula of his father's, to boot.
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This will not be the only movie involving Venom. I heard rumours that Topher might have signed a 3 movie deal. Plenty of time to build the character.
With luck, he doesn't come in as Venom in this movie. We see a symbiote on Parker and Brock and maybe Venom at the end.
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Spiderman got the black symbiote costume during the Secret Wars. It then went to Eddie Brock (creating Venom). While Eddie escaped from jail, some of the symbiote was left behind. Eddie's cell mate Cletus Kasady "hooked up with it" to create Carnage.
Actually, the symbiote "gave birth." It didn't leave anything behind.
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Sam knows better than to bring in Vemon for the last movie. From what I understand, he already has treatments for 3 more scripts.

6 movies in all.
Treatments for scripts are no guarantee that there will be 6 movies.
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Actually, the symbiote "gave birth." It didn't leave anything behind.
If you go back to the "Maximum Carnage" crossover (which I am right now) Cletus tells the story on how he became everyone's favorite red and black sex icon:

Cletus was sentenced to life in prison and was mated up with Eddie Brock. After the last Avengers/Spiderman team-up to defeat Venom, the symbiote sought Eddie out and when they came together, he broke out of prison. While breaking out he beat up Cletus, who was just about to kill Eddie anyways, leaving him cut up. Venom broke free and took off leaving bit of the costume on the jail wall.... the symbiote got into Cletus' bloodstream.... creating Carnage.
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Treatments for scripts are no guarantee that there will be 6 movies.
Not the way Raimi works.

During interviews for Spiderman 2 he made it clear that he wanted to make this his way, and the way he saw it is a six part story.
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If you go back to the "Maximum Carnage" crossover (which I am right now) Cletus tells the story on how he became everyone's favorite red and black sex icon:

Cletus was sentenced to life in prison and was mated up with Eddie Brock. After the last Avengers/Spiderman team-up to defeat Venom, the symbiote sought Eddie out and when they came together, he broke out of prison. While breaking out he beat up Cletus, who was just about to kill Eddie anyways, leaving him cut up. Venom broke free and took off leaving bit of the costume on the jail wall.... the symbiote got into Cletus' bloodstream.... creating Carnage.
Yeah, Brock says otherwise. You lose.
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In fact, the miniseries where they had to deal with his other seeds would back up that.
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Not the way Raimi works.

During interviews for Spiderman 2 he made it clear that he wanted to make this his way, and the way he saw it is a six part story.
So if they pull it out from under him, he will still make the movies, without the liscenses or funding?
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Maybe they are just going to begin the story for Venom in this one, never know.
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So if they pull it out from under him, he will still make the movies, without the liscenses or funding?


like they would pull the franchise from him.
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Maybe they are just going to begin the story for Venom in this one, never know.
That's what I'm hoping.
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like they would pull the franchise from him.
Dude, smart management of Marvel flims would be about as likely as the WWE booking like the fans want.
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