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Old 11-04-2006, 12:24 PM   #41
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I saw it and really enjoyed it. There was a couple of lady friends in front of me in ticket line that were like 55-60 years old who were going to see Borat. When I heard them ask for tickets to Borat I asked them to confirm what I heard. One person said, "Yeah, not by my choice." I laughed and wished them good luck. Just was suprised to see people that age going to see Borat. Was wondering if any of the older people in the theater(there were more than just that couple of friends) would walk out during it. When I saw The Aristocrats in theater, the 60 year old guy walked out of the film.
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Old 11-04-2006, 12:28 PM   #42
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You are a fucking idiot to think they are trying to compete with Spiderman 3 and the like.. This is an indy movie that they prolly shot for well under 1 million dollars.. If it grosses $2 million in it's entire run, it's a success.. As Trips said, it will be more of a cult hit ala Napolian Dynomite.. How much did Evil Dead make it's opening weekend?? Yeah.. Does that mean it's not a success??

Come on..

This movie will make well over 100 times what it cost to film it, specially once it comes out on DVD..

Garantee it..

p.s. You keep hinting about your position in "the industry".. For a THIRD time, what do you do??
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Itried to see Borat last night but it was sold out I'm gonna try again tonight.
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Old 11-04-2006, 12:39 PM   #44
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Well, you are a fool to think that just because it was sold out at your theater, that means people actually want to see it..[/Joey Slugs]
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Old 11-04-2006, 12:40 PM   #45
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Seriously Joey, you are coming off as quite the ignorant shithead here..
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Old 11-04-2006, 01:01 PM   #46
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You are a fucking idiot to think they are trying to compete with Spiderman 3 and the like.. This is an indy movie that they prolly shot for well under 1 million dollars.. If it grosses $2 million in it's entire run, it's a success.. As Trips said, it will be more of a cult hit ala Napolian Dynomite.. How much did Evil Dead make it's opening weekend?? Yeah.. Does that mean it's not a success??

Come on..

This movie will make well over 100 times what it cost to film it, specially once it comes out on DVD..

Garantee it..

p.s. You keep hinting about your position in "the industry".. For a THIRD time, what do you do??
Did I say anything about it competing with Spiderman? No. You are the one making Borat out to be some worldwide blockbuster. "Oh... it's on E! and MTV and CNN... OH MY GAWD! IT'LL MAKE MILLIONS!!!"

No. Just because a movie is a cult favorite (ie: Evil Dead) doesn't mean the movie was a success. Look at SOAP... it reached cult status before it was ever released and it's considered a flop.

All I'm saying is that Borat is not going to be the HUGE hit they some people are thinking it will be. Sure a bunch of college students that remember the Ali G Show will go out and see it and of course it will sell out theaters, but Fox has already dropped it from near 2,000 screens to around 800....

plus it has to compete for it's box office share with two sure fire kids movies and Saw III is still going to make money.

And making money on DVD is a whole separate topic.

I'll say that it will make somewhere in the $9-$12 million dollar range and Fox will not open it up to more screens (Ferinheight 9/11 made about $26 million in just as many screens). It might not even get the #1 spot this weekend.

And while Borat is one of the funniest movie I have seen in awhile... it's not even the funniest movie I have seen this year...

That honor goes to Idiocracy.

And as for what I do for a living... I work for a Marketing/Advertising (regional/city manager) company that deals with 95% of the studios (early movie releases/early cut trailers & commercials/opening weekend premieres) so I tend to see footage 6-8 months before a movie is released and I see most movies close to a month from it's opening. Neilson Entertainment is one of our biggest clients (which gives us a direct link to Sony,Fox, Dreamworks, Lionsgate & WB and we work with the rest of the studios either indirectly or on a first run basis).
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Old 11-04-2006, 01:22 PM   #47
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Did I say anything about it competing with Spiderman?
Yes, you did..

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Good for you. It's not like that all over the country as it would be for a movie like Spider-Man.
Show me where I acted like it'll be the biggest movie of all time.. All I'm saying is, it's getting alot of mainsteam media attention..

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No. Just because a movie is a cult favorite (ie: Evil Dead) doesn't mean the movie was a success. Look at SOAP... it reached cult status before it was ever released and it's considered a flop.
You obviously don't get what the meaning of a "success" in the movie biz is.. You keep comparing it to Snakes on a Plane.. A movie with Samuel L Jackson, one of the biggest actors of the past decade, all kinda of sound stages, and CG and other kinds of special effects.. All that cost ALOT of money.. Their budget was prolly well over $100 mill.. Sure if that doesn't make twice that at the theater, it's considered a "flop"..

Borat is a low budget indy film.. Fuck sake, they didn't even pay the extras.. No art department, no grips, no lighting, no anything but him (Sacha Barren Cohen) and a few carmera operators.. They prolly didn't even have a "base camp"..

On a big budget movie, like Snakes on a Plane, they had to build sets, rent trucks and trailors, rent grip and lighting equipment, pay for locations, filming permits, fire permits for the special effect, computer graphics, so on and so forth.. Then, you have the crew to pay for.. Then caterting and craft service..

It's endless..

Borat prolly had a crew of like ten people, working out of ONE 15 passenger van with like two cameras..

"Cult Classic" or not, there is no comparison..

A movie success means, they make more money off the film than they paid to make the film.. I.E. if Borat was filmed for around a mill (which is my estimate) they will more than make that if not this weekend than by next Monday..

You really have no idea what you are talking about..
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Old 11-04-2006, 01:29 PM   #48
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So you're an ad agent who works with movie companies.. Here, from how you were talking I thought you were a Line Producer or a UPM, you know, someone who actually would know what they were talking about..
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Old 11-04-2006, 01:42 PM   #49
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I'm sorry... I forgot... If you work on a movie, helping get the word out... testing it and showing it to the public fr their opinion... about 6 months beofre the movie is released... instead of actually being on set.... I have zero fucking clue what I'm talking about. Oh well.
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Saw it last night, everyone was rofling the whole time. I dunno about funniest movie ever made, but I was busting my balls laughing a few times, which is something I rarely do in theaters.
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Sorry, Joey, you can't really compare the 2. Krispy makes a good point about the cost difference between the 2 movies. And that early cult status due to the sheer cheesiness of the premise is what killed SOAP at the box office. Even with just that 13 million that SOAP made, Borat would be a huge relative success. You can't really compare the profitability an indy flick to what was supposed to be a huge summer blockbuster.
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Saw it last night, everyone was rofling the whole time. I dunno about funniest movie ever made, but I was busting my balls laughing a few times, which is something I rarely do in theaters.
Yeah, same. Movies rarely crack me up that hard.
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Old 11-04-2006, 02:57 PM   #54
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I have zero fucking clue what I'm talking about. Oh well.
I mean, you are the one posting like a fucking idiot in this thread..

You, as someone who deals with this all the time should know better than to compare a low budget indy film and a 100 million dollar major motion picture regaurdless whether both are "cult" movies or not..

At scale, Borat will slaughter SOAP and many other huge blockbusters..

Compared to how much they spent to make it, to how much it will make (at the theater and DVDs) I bet it could hang with any movie released this year..
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Little update on how Borat is doing thus far. Source: http://joblo.com/index.php?id=13448

Looks like Fox finally has a massive smash on its hands, as BORAT opened to record numbers on Friday, despite only showing in about 800 theaters. The film grossed close to $10M on Friday alone, which is a figure most were estimating that it would make the entire weekend. The film is now slated to make between $20-30M over the weekend and most likely finish in the #1 spot, ahead of THE SANTA CLAUSE 3, which many were expecting to finish at the top of the box-office, especially since it was playing in close to 3500 theaters and the animated film, FLUSHED AWAY, which was also playing in over 3500 theaters. Fox decided to release BORAT at a slow pace, with a limited release starting things off this weekend, but unlike SNAKES ON A PLANE, it looks like this film is for real and the hype is more than just hype, but actual interest! The film only cost $18M to make so much like the JACKASS movies, it will already be "in the black" after this coming weekend. Congrats to Sacha Baron Cohen and the filmmakers for their great success. I guess Borat will not be "execute" by the Kazakhstani government after all. Click HERE to see the actual box-office figures.
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Old 11-04-2006, 05:00 PM   #56
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Wow, 10 mil in 800 theatres.
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Yeah Kris P., that "way under 1 mil" really seemed way off but I didn't say anything.
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Wow.

Seriously didn't stop laughing for the entire movie. Incredible.

Was about to die during the "wrestling" scene.

Also, I have no idea how anyone is saying that this movie will bomb. It is an actual fucking hilarious movie that every single person on earth should find funny unless they are fucking retarded pieces of shit. Thus, it will make tons of money by word of mouth alone. That is why Napoleon Dynamite was so successful. It was hilarious so people went to see it. The difference is Snakes on a Plane was a horrible movie and this movie is classic. I have no idea how anyone is even comparing the two at all. Nothing alike. I didn't even read this joey slugs/krispy argument but I am betting it is fucking stupid and it shouldn't even be happening at all since the original point slugs made was retarded and has no merit whatsoever.
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I saw it tonight and thought it was freakin hilarious. Also, I tihnk it will do well...a lot of the showings have been at least like 80% full.
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If BORAT can make more money on it's opening weekend than F9/11 did... then god bless. It's about time Fox didn't fuck up a small release (ie: Idiocrcy).
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T-Bay will hopefully get it when they do a wider release.

Toronto is massive, and it's only being shown on a handful of screens here right now.
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Old 11-05-2006, 02:10 AM   #63
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Almost went to see it tonight.

Shoulda, I GUESS.
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Old 11-05-2006, 02:11 AM   #64
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Almost went to see it tonight.

Shoulda, I GUESS.
The decision you made was not the correct one.
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Old 11-05-2006, 03:17 AM   #65
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BTW: Just for shit and giggles at this point... BORAT's budget was $18 Million and SOAP's budget was $33 Million.

Not that far off. And since his "highness" doesn't bother to read the arguement... the comparison i was making between the two was because they both had HUGE buzz surrounding them going into their respective openings.
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Old 11-05-2006, 03:55 AM   #66
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Old 11-05-2006, 08:41 AM   #67
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Yeah Kris P., that "way under 1 mil" really seemed way off but I didn't say anything.
It's hard to judge.. I bet a good chunk of that went into legal issues with extras releses and whatnot..

Also, I bet Sacha Cohen walked away with a good chunk..
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Old 11-05-2006, 08:50 AM   #68
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BTW: Just for shit and giggles at this point... BORAT's budget was $18 Million and SOAP's budget was $33 Million.

Not that far off. And since his "highness" doesn't bother to read the arguement... the comparison i was making between the two was because they both had HUGE buzz surrounding them going into their respective openings.
Whatever..

They are two totally different films, on two totally different scales..

Borat was classified as a documentary during filming.. My buddy Don Warren was a camera man on it and he told me they had to sign the contract saying they would "let out" anything that went on.. The contract was given to the crew as a reality/documentary thing.. Like, they were trying to make it out like it was real.. Once they showed up, they told them that no matter what happens on set, they couldn't laugh.. As I said, until it was in post production, they tried to sell it as being real.. Alot of money prolly went into legal issues with filming people, in a real setting, for a fake documentary.. There's enough legal issues when filming a "real" movie..

Truthfully, I still don't see how it cost that much but whatever..
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Old 11-05-2006, 01:12 PM   #69
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I saw it last Thursday, funny stuff. Everyone was pissing themselves.
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Old 11-05-2006, 01:36 PM   #70
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Just came back from seeing it, was ROFLOL the whole way through.
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Old 11-05-2006, 01:44 PM   #71
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I dont' know how Napolian Dynamite was brought up in this thread. That movie was terrible. Borat is the funniest thing I've ever seen. We were with about 12 people in our group and one girl found it really offensive. We therefore called her an idiot.

Arguably the greatest movie ever.
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Old 11-05-2006, 01:57 PM   #72
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Yeah during the wrestling scene I was seriously dying, same with the running of the jews part and when he sacks pam
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Old 11-05-2006, 04:31 PM   #74
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It seems with it's huge opening, we're gonna get it at our theater this next weekend. So, I'll be watching it on Thursday for free.
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Old 11-05-2006, 04:34 PM   #75
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LOL I read that a lady who booke him on that news cast in the movie got fired over him being on there, and for disrupting the weather report.
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LOL I read that a lady who booke him on that news cast in the movie got fired over him being on there, and for disrupting the weather report.
lol that is awesome
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Old 11-05-2006, 05:40 PM   #78
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*spoilers* Saw it last night. Was better at the start than at the end but still pretty damn funny all the way through. Fave bit probs when he dissed that pastors wife and brought his shit back in a plastic bag. *spoilers*
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Just got back, fucking hilarious.

I tried going on opening night but all 7 showings from when I finished work until they closed were sold out


Well worth waiting for though
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