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Old 07-24-2015, 12:46 PM   #81
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He cant be a racist, Mr T was his tag team partner at wrestlemania!!!!
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Because I see that excuse given all the time in one way shape or form.
It's different.
Bullshit.
hate is fucking hate, don't white wash it and don't make excuses.
You disagree, thats cool. I don't feel like you can put all hate in one umbrella and make it all the same, but you clearly feel like you can, and that's fine.
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Old 07-24-2015, 12:55 PM   #83
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This is WWE brilliance, they can't book him in the ring obviously so they run this storyline that was sure to gain some Internet buzz. They'll repackage him as Confederate Hogan and he'll feud with Big E, ahh genius!
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So you are saying it is different to hate a white American you have never met then a black American?
N* -a contemptuous term for a black or dark-skinned person.

Cracker, sometimes white cracker or cracka, is a derogatory term for white people.
The whips used by some of these people are called 'crackers', from their having a piece of buckskin at the end. Hence the people who cracked the whips came to be thus named
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Old 07-24-2015, 01:20 PM   #86
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So you are saying it is different to hate a white American you have never met then a black American?
N* -a contemptuous term for a black or dark-skinned person.

Cracker, sometimes white cracker or cracka, is a derogatory term for white people.
The whips used by some of these people are called 'crackers', from their having a piece of buckskin at the end. Hence the people who cracked the whips came to be thus named
No. That's not what I said. I said the terms are not comparable, and they aren't, because the history of the words are different. Just because two terms are the respective derogatory terms for a race doesn't mean they have the same history, and are on the same tier, because they aren't.

My point was, if you're not black, you're not in a position to discuss the usage of the N-word from an educated perspective because you don't know how that legit feels. Sure, you can feel like you have comparable experiences. But it's different. If you don't live that, and you don't deal with it on a daily basis, it's not something you can wrap your brain around. You can sympathize. But you won't be able to empathize, and I'm not saying that's a bad thing. You may have had some hard times in your life, and that sucks for real.

You made my point when you defined the words. "Contemptuous" is downplaying the word immensely. If you weren't raped, torn from your families because the mom, dad, sister, brother etc were sold to someone else, casually thrown overboard a ship because the ship got too heavy, killed for trying to escape, whipped, etc while being called "cracker" then you can't compare the words. And hell "cracker" was coined because of whip cracker, you know, when they were in the position to own land and people.

One word was coined for the ones being oppressed, and the other was coined for the oppressors. That's as clear as I can be. My point was referring to the word usage. I never brought up distrust or angst towards "whitey," you did that.
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If these comments were from 8 years ago, that's a long time, people can change a lot in 8 years. There's no excuse for being a racist asshole, but what bothers me is people saying a racist should have their career taken away from them and treated like a subhuman piece of shit.

What about rehabilitation? What if Hogan got sensitivity counselling, publicly apologised, and spent time condemning his actions, and explained to other people why he was wrong.

Yeah, hate is fucking hate, but one disgusting outburst shouldn't define a person who is capable of change and redemption. WWE did the right thing, and Hogan should answer for his stupid comments by appearing on a talk show or news broadcast and be humbled and questioned, but also show that he is redeemable.

People love to be outraged by stuff, and see the accused lose everything in the name of 'justice'. I'm in no way defending Hogan, I just have to roll my eyes at comments that read like 'he said a racist thing, now he's a racist for life, let's hope he loses everything and suffers for his injustice.'
I agree to an extent. And it's up for discernment of course, but I think theres a difference between saying "a racist thing" and someone subtly letting their real indoctrined views slip out. I'm not sure which one Hogan falls under in this case, but saying "fucking n*gger" twice in same rant doesn't bode well for optimism in this case.
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By hate do you mean by someone who when you look into there eyes all you see is someone that wants to kick your ass for no other reason except for the fact that you exist? Then yes I do. Despite my idiocy on these forum I have always been one of those people that you walk by without noticing, don't miss until hours after they leave a party... who before ZI was married the type of person you wouldn't know died in their apt until it started to smell. With the exception of a few coworkers just about every single Non internet interaction with any Black Male since I have come to the united states has been bad and a few have been downright frightening.. and why do I feel it was because I passed for white? Because they fucking told me so. So don't you fucking sit there and tell someone you haVE NEVER ment that they have no clue, because you know what? Some of us fucking do and there are problably plenty of us outhere who never had a problem until one was made. Now I don't honestly believe that every Black man on the street I pass hates my ass but you kbnow what? Why chance it? Hate breeds hate my man and Black Americans are just as responcible for what as going on in this country then anyone else. It is time to own up to rather then blaming whitey
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if only vince russo had stuck to his word about us never having to see that "big bald fuck , piece of shit here again" in 2000
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Hulk Hogan Apologizes for 'Unacceptable' Racist Rant as He Is Scrubbed from WWE Hall of Fame


Hulk Hogan is speaking out about a just-released audio transcript that features him making racist slurs about his daughter Brooke's love life.

"Eight years ago I used offensive language during a conversation. It was unacceptable for me to have used that offensive language; there is no excuse for it; and I apologize for having done it," Hogan said in a statement exclusively to PEOPLE. The transcript featuring that conversation was published online by the National Enquirer.

"This is not who I am. I believe very strongly that every person in the world is important and should not be treated differently based on race, gender, orientation, religious beliefs or otherwise," Hogan told PEOPLE. "I am disappointed with myself that I used language that is offensive and inconsistent with my own beliefs."

Hogan was scrubbed from the WWE's website on Friday morning, with no videos or photos of the famed wrestler remaining. He was also removed from the online Hall of Fame. His lawyer David Houston confirmed to PEOPLE that he's officially resigned from the organization.

"He decided to resign from WWE because he didn't want to put them or his family through this," Houston told PEOPLE.

WWE, however, maintains that Hogan was fired: "WWE terminated its contract with Terry Bollea (a.k.a. Hulk Hogan). WWE is committed to embracing and celebrating individuals from all backgrounds as demonstrated by the diversity of our employees, performers and fans worldwide."

Hogan told PEOPLE he will use the situation to "improve as a person" and that he takes the matter as an "important learning experience."

A transcript of the audio shows the wrestler repeatedly using the n-word in reference to his daughter Brooke Hogan's dating life.

Hogan was already enmeshed in legal drama when news of the transcript leaked. The Florida trial for his high-profile lawsuit against gossip site Gawker was recently delayed until at least the fall. The star's legal team filed a $100 million lawsuit against the site after its 2012 posting of video from a sex tape, made in 2008, featuring Hogan. The video was later removed from the site.
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Old 07-24-2015, 04:06 PM   #110
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This reminds of that episode of South Park.
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Old 07-24-2015, 04:15 PM   #111
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So much for the nWo going into the Hall of Fame this year. Can't see that happening now.
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Old 07-24-2015, 04:28 PM   #112
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Remember when then reigning WWF Champion "Macho Man" Randy Savage defeated Ted DiBiase and André The Giant in a handicap match at SummerSlam?
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Old 07-24-2015, 04:42 PM   #114
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I'm so torn on this on the one hand I never liked hogan in fact even as a kid everything about him just pissed me off and when I got older I found out he was a shitty human being,That said the WWE loves racial stereotyping so I can't understand why this set them off (outside of the fact that they are a PG company that targets kids they still use racial stereotypes) So I guess for them the stereotyping is fine just be sure not to include the slurs. All that said as much as I hate Hogan WWE might be overreacting.If Steph and Triple H had anything to do with it I can see why Hogan is gone they seem a lot more serious about social issues than Vince ever was or will be. Sorry for the rant
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Old 07-24-2015, 04:48 PM   #115
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GFW or back to TNA ?

I think GFW cus Jeff Jarret is another fucking racist.


GFW hulk hogan is coming for you ....
Not if GFW still wants a tv deal. Them signing Hogan would almost be the kiss of death for that.
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I just remembered that I had that T-shirt of Hogan slamming a T-Rex sitting in my basket on WWE Euroshop.

I never got around to actually buying it but now it's too late. They've taken it out my basket.
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Old 07-24-2015, 05:16 PM   #118
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In other news, WWE has confirmed it actually was a three count when Andre landed on Hogan on the first bodyslam attempt at Mania 3.
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Remember when then reigning WWF Champion "Macho Man" Randy Savage defeated Ted DiBiase and André The Giant in a handicap match at SummerSlam?
And when Andre the Giant stood all by himself in the ring in front of a record breaking crowd at Wrestle Mania 3?
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And When Nash Fell in the ring, and lost the title
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