12-22-2012, 09:51 PM | #1 | |
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Fangel wants to custom build a PC.
First off, I know my way around the software aspects of a computer and how to run, maintain and fix one.
However my severely limited knowledge of hardware caused me to fry my mobo, cpu, ram and one of my HD's due to me putting a stick of ram in backwards. No I didn't force it, it fit fine, and like I said me messing around inside a computer would be akin to a monkey screwing a football. I am not sure of the budget I would have but I would at least want a rig that could run Skyrim at max settings. If someone could help me compile a list of the needed/suggested parts, I would be indebted and love you forever. Quote:
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12-22-2012, 11:45 PM | #2 |
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You don't have a budget in mind and have royally fucked up a computer already.
Here's the best advice anyone can give you: stop. Stop right now. Save yourself ime and money. And frustration. Oh my God, if you break DVDs and toss phones around, putting you anywhere near the sensitive insides of a PC is a recipe for disaster. |
12-22-2012, 11:46 PM | #3 |
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I thought all RAM was unidirectional anyway. At least, I've never had to handle any RAM that wasn't.
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12-22-2012, 11:54 PM | #4 | ||
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12-23-2012, 12:16 AM | #5 | ||
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So yeah, I'm the stupid one. The dude who's never placed RAM in backwards or fried a mobo is the idiot here. |
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12-23-2012, 12:18 AM | #6 |
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Honestly, I sort of expect that Fangerl saw that the little nitch was obstructing him, so he filed it down or something.
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12-23-2012, 12:29 AM | #7 |
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For once, Kane Knight is right. You are a huge fucking spastic. I know fuck all about computer hardware, and I can at least install a DVD drive, a hard disk, and RAM right.
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12-23-2012, 01:05 AM | #8 |
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Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119196 Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130646 Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116506 RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231609 Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814202006 SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820147192 Mechanical storage drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136792 Total price as it stands = $1,074.93 Here's a basic layout, you can figure out the other parts (keyboard, mouse, monitor, etc.) yourself. The case might need to be bigger to fit the video card, but you're gonna have to do your own research there. |
12-23-2012, 01:22 AM | #9 |
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Oh wow. I was looking at what I could afford on it and between 1000-1200 was what I was aiming for.
Very much appreciated. |
12-23-2012, 01:25 AM | #10 |
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Also perhaps I am over estimating the difficulty of putting it together, but please understand that I don't want to waste $1,100 if I screw up.
If possible what would be the shortlist of how to put it together? |
12-23-2012, 01:32 AM | #11 |
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I forgot to throw in a power supply - should aim for something 600W or higher.
It's not that difficult. The hardest part for me every time is figuring out where the plugs for the case's power and reset buttons go. Other than that, it's pretty easy if you take your time and not rush. All the plugs that go anywhere are pretty obvious and just make sure to read any manuals if you get stuck. |
12-23-2012, 01:36 AM | #12 |
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I appreciate this.
I have an old computer that I may dissect to learn the in and outs. just worried ill plug something in wrong again. Oh and to clarify, it wasn't my current computer that this happened to, it was a few years ago. |
12-23-2012, 04:56 AM | #13 |
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Any cheaper suggestions for the video card and SSD?
Am I honestly going to need a 3GB video card? The SSD I want but with a 2TB Mech HD, I don't see me needing much more space then the OS plus maybe 10-20GB. Or is there another reason I should get it? |
12-23-2012, 01:17 PM | #14 |
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It just makes the computer faster to use overall. I thought I could get away with using a Western Digital Black 500GB in the desktop I'm using now, but after using a laptop with an SSD for 4 months and getting used to how fast it boots and loads programs I feel like I should upgrade. But if you don't care too much then the one 2TB should be good enough or you could even go smaller if you don't plan to store that much stuff.
You can use a smaller SSD, but I prefer to use a 120GB SSD so I can at least store SOME stuff on it, like programs, music, some video, whatever. You can use something like a 60GB SSD, but I think space would run out really fast after installing Windows 7 or 8 (both of which should take up like 20GB). As for the video card, I just assumed Skyrim took a lot of power to run so I chose one of the stronger card I could find. Just read this if you want something else - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...view,3107.html |
12-23-2012, 08:03 PM | #15 |
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I have 4.25TB of internal mechanical storage and 64gb of SSD. If you get less than that then you are less of a man.
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12-23-2012, 08:33 PM | #16 |
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I have absolutely no need of that much storage. None at all.
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12-24-2012, 09:40 AM | #17 |
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Then go with a caching mSATA or even regular SATA SSD with your mechanical HDD. But seriously, I just got 512 gigs of SATA SSD to go with a mechanical HDD that is boosted by an mSATA SSD and I could never go back to just a mechanical HDD ever again.
If the 840 Pro is too expensive, get the 830 series or even the Crucial M4. 120 gigs is what I recommend for OS and most of your programs (not Steam of course). |
12-25-2012, 09:48 PM | #18 |
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So, you'll let the rest of TPWW build you a PC, but when I start listing off parts you will want based on price and compatibility, you bitch and complain that I'm not including you enough in the process because I'm just 'choosing parts'.
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12-25-2012, 10:11 PM | #19 | |
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Surprisingly, she is fine with me spending that much so this time around I actually have a budget to work with. And I have been after you for days now to discuss it but you aren't ever on AIM or Skype so.... :foc: |
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12-25-2012, 10:21 PM | #20 |
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12-29-2012, 01:56 PM | #21 |
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Just bought a new case, mobo, processor, and RAM for $500
Excited to finally move out of Core 2 Quad. |
01-02-2013, 09:38 AM | #22 |
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Seriously, if you're that scared of wasting a thousand bucks, don't dick around. Especially if you can't install RAM properly.
Again, best advice you'll ever get on the subject. I mean, it impacts me none if you gamble on assembling your PC, but there's a few dozen little ways you can screw that shit up, and you're expressing worry. VC and Reqtum (who no doubt could soup up your graphing calculator to play Skyrim on max settings) can tell you everything you want, but in the end, they're not the ones who are assembling the thing. You are the weak link in the chain, and that will probably chap your ass if you ever bother to read this, but it's true. I could tell my grandmother everything there is to know about PC assembly, but it still wouldn't help her if she couldn't handle installation solo. |
01-02-2013, 04:39 PM | #23 |
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Case $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811112376 Power Supply $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182200 CPU $180 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116782 Motherboard $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130653 Video Card $250 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161404 SSD $120 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227791 Mechanical Drive $110 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136891 Blu Ray Drive $70 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136250 Ram $80 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231609 Monitor $170 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236059 Keyboard and Mouse $70 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16823126314 Wireless Card $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833704133 Windows 8 $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832416550 That's everything you need. It's not the best of the best, but it's a good set of componants with good technology. It's actually pretty much what I went for when I built my latest PC on a budget when I got to the USA. You can always skimp on the monitor, wireless card, keyboard and mouse etc. And you could try pirate your OS, which is a waste of time. Pretty sure you can get windows 8 for $60 if you try. Also, Hansey, good call on the storage - I'm happy with my 12tb RAID 5 NAS |
01-03-2013, 09:44 AM | #24 |
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That looks beautiful. Little more then my budget but ill have to see how much I have left in my vacation pay account, might be enough to cover the difference.
EDIT: Don't need monitor, w-card or keyboard/mouse like you said so within budget. Now to get the money together and get the sumbitch built. |
01-05-2013, 05:59 PM | #25 |
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Also, part 1 of a three part video series on how to assemble everything properly. Quite foolproof if you follow them. The other two are at the top of the page for ya. I see you have had issue in the past, but everything takes practice. Hope this helps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIXAtNGGCw |
01-05-2013, 06:07 PM | #26 |
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Sometimes I wish you could rep a post more then once. <3
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01-05-2013, 06:42 PM | #27 |
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No worries man! I tend to encourage learning rather than discourage. None of us learned our trade or even basic motor skills our first tries
Best piece of advice I can offer is BE GENTLE and PATIENT! If something doesn't fit right with the slightest pressure, it is most likely misaligned. Stop, look at the parts again (rewatch the vid if you have them up while doing it) and retry. Remember, it only takes between 5-8 pounds of force to break a human elbow joint |
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This is what I would like to get.
Total: $1773.01 Little over price range though. |
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01-06-2013, 06:48 PM | #29 |
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Nice. Might be a bit over price range, but that tech will last you YEARS with only minor upgrades required (RAM, Vid card). Even still, it will be years before you would even need to upgrade a single piece.
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01-06-2013, 07:35 PM | #30 |
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That is what I need to convince my wife of.
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01-06-2013, 09:03 PM | #31 |
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The max amount of usable RAM with Win 7 home premium is 16 GB. You are better off getting Win 8 instead. Isn't Windows 8 really cheap right now for a full version?
Edit: Just checked on Newegg and it is $100 USD for the basic version and $140 for Win 8 Pro. You can save $70 by going directly to Win 8. |
01-06-2013, 10:03 PM | #32 |
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Don't want 8.
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01-07-2013, 04:36 AM | #33 |
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I've never cast aspersions on anyone I haven't dealt with directly, but you seem very annoying. Also very talented to be able to put RAM in backwards.
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01-07-2013, 06:52 AM | #34 |
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Go back to the discussion forums, about guns and dead people n stuff.
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01-07-2013, 01:29 PM | #35 |
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You can save $100 or so by buying a Core i5-3570. The i7 is nice, but way overpowered for you since the K series, I'm pretty sure, is out of your league (it's designed for massive overclocking, which I'm assuming you don't know how to do based on this topic).
Mobo and video card and come down as well if you choose to use BadCompany's solid choices. You can also save another $70 or so buying the OEM version of Windows 7 64-bit (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116986) |
01-07-2013, 01:33 PM | #36 | |
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01-07-2013, 05:46 PM | #37 | |
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Explain, please. |
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01-07-2013, 06:17 PM | #38 |
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Win 7 professional, instead just get 16 gigs of ram. Why the fuck do you need 32 gigs?
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01-07-2013, 06:26 PM | #39 |
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Ill get 16gb, calm your loins.
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01-08-2013, 01:12 AM | #40 |
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That can shave another $100 off your total.
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