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Old 02-02-2014, 09:27 PM   #3521
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Highlights of the Montana/Elway Wrestlemania match.
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Old 02-02-2014, 09:28 PM   #3522
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I can't wait to see Krimzon say that batted pass is further proof of Manning's inability to throw a pass.
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Old 02-02-2014, 09:32 PM   #3524
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because YOU said he was the best QB ever. When its clearly Joe Montana.
I would never say he was the best. I actually do think that Joe is one of, if not THE best ever. And I hate to admit that because he won two at the expense of my Bengals.

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Krimzon, you are the one who thinks world titles in a team sport are the only measurable stat when determining the greatness of a position player in said sport. That is a laughable stance for anyone with any semblance of intelligence and able to have complex thoughts.
If all of these quarterbacks are the best of their times, what would be the one acheivement that is common among them all?
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Old 02-02-2014, 09:32 PM   #3525
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Old 02-02-2014, 09:33 PM   #3526
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Championships and statistics relevant to their position. Payton has both.
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Old 02-02-2014, 09:33 PM   #3527
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Old 02-02-2014, 09:33 PM   #3528
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too bad. would have been more entertaining than most of this game.
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Old 02-02-2014, 09:34 PM   #3529
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Sherman can go fuck off and die too. Just because you have a degree from Stanford doesn't mean you can act like a wild jackass and not get called on it. Al Capone was a thug and a smart businessmen.
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Get off of that. Those 'shit' teams were 12-4 and 13-3 on a regular basis.
Oh, so suddenly it's the team and not Manning.

You were just fucking talking about QBs MAKING great teams champions. I mention how Manning MADE bad teams great and suddenly it was the teams.

lol
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Old 02-02-2014, 09:35 PM   #3531
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DAMN IT PAYTON, WHY DID YOU DROP THAT PASS?! HOW DID YOU EVEN GET IN THIS LEAGUE!?!?!?
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Seattle scoring 50 on Denver would almost be as embarrassing as them only scoring 8 points
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Old 02-02-2014, 09:35 PM   #3533
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Fuck, Payton, throw a better ball with three 300+ pound men in your face.
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Old 02-02-2014, 09:40 PM   #3538
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Championships and statistics relevant to their position. Payton has both.
and Tom Brady, Joe Montanna, Terry Bradshaw, to name a few, have MORE.

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Oh, so suddenly it's the team and not Manning.

You were just fucking talking about QBs MAKING great teams champions. I mention how Manning MADE bad teams great and suddenly it was the teams.

lol
If Manning was so great, why didn't those teams get to, or win, more superbowls? Because a better quarterback making his team better while making fewer mistakes beat him. I'm talking about Tom Brady


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DAMN IT PAYTON, WHY DID YOU DROP THAT PASS?! HOW DID YOU EVEN GET IN THIS LEAGUE!?!?!?
It's baffling.
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Tom Brady had better overall teams.
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Do you consider Dan Marino a piece of shit?
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Dammit Peyton, why can't you make the decision to use your legs like Russel?
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name his top receiver when he won a superbowl. Name a tight end.
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Tom Brady injured for year - team still went 11-5.
Payton Manning injured for year - team went 2-14.
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name his top receiver when he won a superbowl. Name a tight end.
"Defense wins championships."
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...and Denver just quit this game
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I'm not disagreeing that Tom Brady isn't one of the greatest of all time, but to dismiss Payton Manning's career as anything but great is fucking ridiculous and not plausible unless you are a dumbass.
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...and Denver just quit this game
Probably trying to keep them from scoring 50.
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Here I'll help

Deon Branch, Troy Brown. are they better than Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne?

No tight end on the pats roster was better than Dallas Clark.

Who was better than Edgarin James? Who was better than Jeff Saturday?

Richard Seymour was good, so was Dwight Freeney. Ty Law, and Teddy Bruschi? how about Robert Mathis and Bob Sanders? There were just as many 'names' and all pros on Peyton's team...yet New England went to more Superbowls. The Colt's had a squad, and for Marvin, and Dwight, and Reggie and (most importantly) Edge...I wish they'd won more. But there was one thing holding them back, and that one thing wore #18.
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Troy Aikman says he is still a Top 5 all-time QB and Troy fucking Aikman won 3 Super Bowls. You can't question a man with 3 rings because rings determine everything.
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If Manning was so great, why didn't those teams get to, or win, more superbowls? Because a better quarterback making his team better while making fewer mistakes beat him. I'm talking about Tom Brady
Goddamn. I'm gonna try to recap this all in one post because you seem to have ADD or something.

You said "The one thing that separates the greats from the GREATEST is going to be the ones who have elevated their teams from Great teams to Champions."

To which I replied that you're assuming all great QBs have equal opportunity to lead a GREAT team to a championship team when that is not the case. Manning didn't play with great teams most of his career.

Now you're asking why he didn't get those teams to a championship...

Now read this post as many times as is necessary until you understand.
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Troy Aikman says he is still a Top 5 all-time QB and Troy fucking Aikman won 3 Super Bowls. You can't question a man with 3 rings because rings determine everything.
He's just being nice to a losing quarterback. Nothing more than meaningless platitudes to console a nation of butthurt Peyton Manning Nut Huggers.
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I'm not disagreeing that Tom Brady isn't one of the greatest of all time, but to dismiss Payton Manning's career as anything but great is fucking ridiculous and not plausible unless you are a dumbass.
In the following post I made a couple of pages back, I acknowledge that peyton is a great quarterback.

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Most QB's would. Let's talk about Peyton right now...He'd Kill to be his 'lesser' brother Eli right now, with his two championships and everything.

And I'm not saying Peyton isn't good. Hell, I'll even call him great. But the greatest? He's not the greatest of our generation. He's definitely not the greatest of all time.

Can you tell me how yards Johnny Unitas threw for? How about Bart Star? What about Joe Montanna? How many yards did Fat Ben Roethlisberger throw for? How many yards or touch downs or first downs has Tom Brady Thrown for? Otto Graham? Let's get a little more local. How many records do Troy Aikman or Roger Staubach have right now?

You people want to quantify greatness in bullshit records that are broken every year as seasons are lengthened, and rules are geared towards passing.
The one thing that will make a quarterback immortal is Championship titles. Wake up, stop being mindless drones swallowing the goup that people tell you make somebody great.
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