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Old 12-19-2014, 01:35 PM   #1
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What is it that Cesaro is supposedly "missing"?
The man is a fucking animal. The best in-ring performer in WWE today. All I keep hearing about is how he's missing that "one thing", though. I don't buy I. I feel like every time he has had a great amount of momentum, he's been given absolute garbage to work with for no reason. Even small things like taking away his first name and giving him the shittiest theme song of all time (when he already had a great one) makes me think that somebody just doesn't like him for some reason.

My theory aside, what do you think will really "fix" Cesaro? The man should be at the absolute top of the WWE food chain.

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Old 12-19-2014, 01:43 PM   #2
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I would say consistant booking.
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I would say consistant booking.
I would say this too. I don't like how it is being misconstrued as his fault.
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I would say this too. I don't like how it is being misconstrued as his fault.
Me neither, he has pretty much the "whole package." They do the same in a sense with Ziggler...they push him a bit, let him cool off, push him a bit, let him cool of, etc, etc, etc....give him more mic time and a good program and I think he's set.
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I would say consistant booking.
Pretty much this.

The guy was on fire when they were teasing his face turn around Wrestlemania time. He had the entire crowd popping for him when he lifted Big Show over the top rope. The guy can wrestle, he has the strength and creativity to pull off some amazing and unique moves, and despite what people say I believe he has tonnes of charisma and can cut a promo.

The biggest issue? He's not John Cena, Randy Orton or Brock Lesnar. He's not one of WWE's "elite" performers, so he'll constantly be shuffled around between storylines.

I agree with ABT though. Guy is a fucking beast and should be at the top of the food chain in WWE. Cesaro, I mean. Not ABT.
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Consistant booking, a time to work with someone important, and have the feud last at least 3-4 months, to have him improve by that time.
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Consistant booking, a time to work with someone important, and have the feud last at least 3-4 months, to have him improve by that time.
Improve on WHAT, though? He's the best.
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Improve on WHAT, though? He's the best.
Mic skills. He still a bit lacks them. With all due honesty.
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Mic skills. He still a bit lacks them. With all due honesty.
How would you really know, though? When has he been given significant mic time in a program of any importance or continuity?

Anyone will sound awkward if they're just talking about how they're going to beat someone up in a one-off match on Main Event, or whatever.
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Mic skills. He still a bit lacks them. With all due honesty.
Cesaro's mic skills are fine. Not everyone on the roster can be CM Punk/John Cena/The Rock etc.
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Even Randy Orton hasn't been booked all that consistently, but you can tell he's definitely higher up on the totem pole.

Remember when Cesaro beat Orton on Smackdown and had that banger with Cena on Raw? I know it was just to build him as a "threat" for the Elimination Chamber, but if they didn't see anything in those two matches alone, I'm not really sure what the fuck they're looking for.
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He's lacking the key element that WWE are looking for.

Youth.

At 33, I'm sure in WWE's eyes he's already passed his sell-by date and isn't a hot prospect for the future.
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He's lacking the key element that WWE are looking for.

Youth.

At 33, I'm sure in WWE's eyes he's already passed his sell-by date and isn't a hot prospect for the future.
Good thing they got Sting, then.
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He's lacking the key element that WWE are looking for.

Youth.

At 33, I'm sure in WWE's eyes he's already passed his sell-by date and isn't a hot prospect for the future.
Just to go out there, KENTA is 33 years old and he seems to be doing fine in NXT. Daniel Bryan is 33 years old, and he held the belt this year. John Cena who constantly gets title shots his 37 years old, and he is getting another title shot with Brock Lesnar, who is also 37 years old. So your comment is a bit invalid.
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Just to go out there, KENTA is 33 years old and he seems to be doing fine in NXT. Daniel Bryan is 33 years old, and he held the belt this year. John Cena who constantly gets title shots his 37 years old, and he is getting another title shot with Brock Lesnar, who is also 37 years old. So your comment is a bit invalid.
Cena is "the man" right now, so his age is totally irrelevant, same for Lesnar. They both have history and name value. Hideo Itami is doing well for himself right now in NXT, but unless he can pull out a huge Daniel Bryan-esque gimmick that catches on big time, I don't think he'll be headlining any major PPV's any time soon.

Daniel Bryan is a rare exception in that his "yes" thing really caught on when he was 30/31, which built up to a point that WWE couldn't ignore it anymore.
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Cena is "the man" right now, so his age is totally irrelevant, same for Lesnar. They both have history and name value. Hideo Itami is doing well for himself right now in NXT, but unless he can pull out a huge Daniel Bryan-esque gimmick that catches on big time, I don't think he'll be headlining any major PPV's any time soon.

Daniel Bryan is a rare exception in that his "yes" thing really caught on when he was 30/31, which built up to a point that WWE couldn't ignore it anymore.
Cesaro's swing was catching on, but WWE made it seem lame, just like they always do when something gets popular.
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Cena is "the man" right now, so his age is totally irrelevant, same for Lesnar. They both have history and name value. Hideo Itami is doing well for himself right now in NXT, but unless he can pull out a huge Daniel Bryan-esque gimmick that catches on big time, I don't think he'll be headlining any major PPV's any time soon.

Daniel Bryan is a rare exception in that his "yes" thing really caught on when he was 30/31, which built up to a point that WWE couldn't ignore it anymore.
You do realize that while Cena was the man for the last 5-7 years, Triple H who was in his late 30s and early 40s was also winning the WWE Championship? And even Undertaker was winning championships in his late 30s and early 40s. Randy Orton also won the championship in his early 30s. A lot of the wrestlers won the WWE Championship at their 30s and 40s. Just recently you head The Rock win a WWE Championship at the age of 38.
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Sting has history and some name value on his side. People will pay to see Sting in a dream match at Wrestlemania.

Cesaro doesn't quite have that going for him.
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Because they book him like a chump.
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I wish I had the answer, because Cesaro is IMO the best all-around talent on their roster.
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And all of these men have histories with the company, dating back to their 20's.
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And all of these men have histories with the company, dating back to their 20's.
And yet you still miss the point that their prime as far as competitors and stardom came in their 30s.
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I think you're missing the point that I'm making. I'm not disputing when these men had their primes.
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I think what Rammsteinmad is saying is, those guys have built up that level of trust with the company/Vince, through their years of service, so he's confident in booking them consistently in their 30s and onward because he knows they are a proven commodity.

They may be wary to bestow that level of responsibility on Cesaro because by the time he "accrues" that level of service he'll already be feasibly past his prime, so it may seem like a wasted investment in their eyes.
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I think what Rammsteinmad is saying is, those guys have built up that level of trust with the company/Vince, through their years of service, so he's confident in booking them consistently in their 30s and onward because he knows they are a proven commodity.

They may be wary to bestow that level of responsibility on Cesaro because by the time he "accrues" that level of service he'll already be feasibly past his prime, so it may seem like a wasted investment in their eyes.
Pretty much this. Not only a level of trust, but a level of "overness" with the audience. Unless the fans begin chanting for Cesaro during other peoples matches, I don't see a huge push coming for him.

Remember a few years ago just before Triple H started to gain some serious backstage power, when they had that whole "youth initiative" going on, where they were only looking for new wrestlers to sign who were under the age of 30?
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Pretty much this. Not only a level of trust, but a level of "overness" with the audience. Unless the fans begin chanting for Cesaro during other peoples matches, I don't see a huge push coming for him.

Remember a few years ago just before Triple H started to gain some serious backstage power, when they had that whole "youth initiative" going on, where they were only looking for new wrestlers to sign who were under the age of 30?
Well, if Vince wants someone to get over, why not do a more effective booking? He did that with Cena in 2002-2005, so why not do the same with Cesaro?
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Well, if Vince wants someone to get over, why not do a more effective booking? He did that with Cena in 2002-2005, so why not do the same with Cesaro?
Coz Vince may not specifically care for Cesaro getting over.
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I'd like to see Cesaro win the Rumble.
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He did an interview in October saying Cena vs. Orton for the 500th time is boring and that fans want something new and exciting. He hasn't won since.
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He did an interview in October saying Cena vs. Orton for the 500th time is boring and that fans want something new and exciting. He hasn't won since.
And that might be another reason. Ziggler did the same thing on Twitter and was jobbing for quite some time now, and I think Cesaro is getting the same treatment. Maybe CM Punk was right and the writers do go 'oh, I don't like this guy, I'm not going to write anything for him'.
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Shit-talking your boss in public is never a great career move (see: Simmons, Bill)
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Shit-talking your boss in public is never a great career move (see: Simmons, Bill)
But he's fucking right, though. Vince acts like he encourages people to speak up, but when they do, they get the bone. Cutting off your nose to spite your face is never a great business move either.
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True, but Roger Goddell isn't Bill Simmons's Boss. It's dirty that ESPN suspended Simmons for what he said. Cesaro and Simmons both told the truth. Simmons should never have been suspended for what he said on his podcast. Goddell is a fucking liar. He should be fired. He had the podcast before he ever was with ESPN. They wanted to grab his dick and jump on getting the show in their podcast offerings. They knew he was controversial when they signed him. They wouldn't even have podcasts without him.
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Vince never really struck me as the super progressive type that would be able to look past his own ego, regardless of how much lip service he gives otherwise
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True. It's getting really fucking frustrating, though.
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