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Old 04-12-2012, 05:04 PM   #1321
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Joe Vitt set to be the Saints interim coach for next season but he won't have the job for the first 6 games due to his suspension. Aaron Kromer will take over for the first six games then return as the team's o-line coach.

Parcells already announced a day or so ago he's staying retired.
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So I'm really hoping now that the Rams really take Trent Richardson with the #6 pick so the Jags can snag Blackmon at #7. My only concern is, I have no fucking clue who the Browns are going to draft at #4.
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Joe Vitt set to be the Saints interim coach for next season but he won't have the job for the first 6 games due to his suspension. Aaron Kromer will take over for the first six games then return as the team's o-line coach.

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Vitt and Kromer won't "take" the job from Payton, if the Saints do really well next season.. Well, they are less likely than Pete Carmicheal or Spags, who both have HC credentials.. That was kinda the reason Payton wanted the Tuna.. I don't think Benson (owner) will get rid of Payton regardless of what happens this year, but I can see Payton's concern..
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So I'm really hoping now that the Rams really take Trent Richardson with the #6 pick so the Jags can snag Blackmon at #7. My only concern is, I have no fucking clue who the Browns are going to draft at #4.
Richardson will be gone.. He'll go to the Browns or the Bucs, mos def..
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Richardson will be gone.. He'll go to the Browns or the Bucs, mos def..
That 4 through 6 spot is interesting. For whatever reason, people think Ryan Tannehill is a top 5 pick. I could see the Browns wasting their pick on him and the Bucs picking up Claiborne. Dude is dumb as hell, but a beast at Corner.

Don't get me wrong, I think Tannehill can be a good QB, but he's a guy who could benefit from sitting for 3 or 4 seasons before starting. Instead, he'll get ruined because the Browns or Dolphins will have him starting mid-year if not sooner and he'll end up fading away.
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At this point I don't know if I could justify a top 10 pick for any running back no matter how good they seem to be. Sure you could get a couple of beast years out of him, but then he'll demand a huge contract before long and you'll wind up screwed in the long run. RBs just don't last that long.
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That's true about backs. I think Richardson is one of those backs that can be a game changer instantly though. Plus, the new rookie contacts have mandatory four year deals with a team option on the fifth. By the time dude plays out his rookie deal, the team likely would have gotten his best years anyway.
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Old 04-12-2012, 07:38 PM   #1329
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You can't base Claiborne's football intelligence on the Wonderlick.. He played at a high level, for multiple years, for a top 3 defense, in the SEC and succeeded.. He'll do just fine at the pro level..

Vito, I thought the same thing but Greeny has changed my mind over the past few days.. His reason is exactly the reason you say not to draft him.. This day in age, RB's get used up in their first few years, so the draft is really the only way to get an "elite" RB, without having to pay them a HUGE contract, with the new rookie salary limit.. Draft a RB high, run him for 4 years and then trade him..
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He is a DB right? If anything, there was a study that showed that DBs and TEs had a tendency to perform better with lower Wonderlic scores.
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He is a DB right? If anything, there was a study that showed that DBs and TEs had a tendency to perform better with lower Wonderlic scores.
Exhibit A= Deion Sanders. Nuff said
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Tannehill will be a bust. So will Coples, god I hope the Cowboys dont draft him.
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Is Brees not going to show up at OTAs? Damn. No Payton and no Brees. That would have to feel surreal in the locker room.
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A record 26 players have been invited to the NFL draft. Yay for another year of every 1st round pick being shown before the announcement!
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No kidding..I hate that. Why do they have to be the first to spoil the damn pick. It'll be like a minute before the pick is in and they show the player on the phone with a smile on his face
Analyst; Well we know what the next pick is folks you saw it here first!!! What do you think about the pick Mel??! Even before the commish announces it
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If you were projected to go between 20 & 25 and the NFL invited you would you go? I feel like they're setting guys up for some awkward camera shots and unintended hilariousness if someone shows up, doesn't go in the first round and has to sit there in their suit with their family as the party slowly dwindles to just them and the janitors waiting to put up the tables and chairs.
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In ’89, Idea of Bounties Seemed Funny to Many
By MIKE TANIER
The N.F.L.’s last bounty scandal of note did not provoke outrage or condemnation. It did not result in fines or suspensions. The accused perpetrators showed no remorse. The only person to receive any penalty was the victim.

Mostly, the incident was played for laughs.

There had been bad blood between Buddy Ryan’s Philadelphia Eagles and the Dallas Cowboys since 1987, when the Cowboys sent their stars onto the field against Philadelphia’s overmatched replacement players during the strike. The feud intensified in 1989 when Ryan released kicker Luis Zendejas after a string of poor games, and Zendejas criticized Ryan before signing with Dallas.

After Zendejas kicked off to start the third quarter of the Eagles’ 27-0 victory over the Cowboys on Thanksgiving that year, Jessie Small, a 239-pound linebacker for the Eagles, ignored his usual blocking assignment and raced across the field toward the 175-pound Zendejas. The kicker crumpled in self-defense, his helmet colliding with Small’s ankle.

The referees, dutifully enforcing the letter of the rulebook, flagged Zendejas for a low block. He stumbled to his feet with what was later diagnosed as a concussion. Small was not penalized.

After the game, Cowboys Coach Jimmy Johnson accused the Eagles of putting a price on Zendejas’s head.

“We were told last night by a coach, and it is confirmed by two different players: there is a $200 bounty on Luis Zendejas, a $500 bounty on Troy Aikman,” Johnson said in his postgame news conference.

Livid, Johnson also took a shot at Ryan.

“I would have said something to Buddy, but he wouldn’t stand on the field long enough,” Johnson said. “He put his big fat rear end into the dressing room.”

Ryan, one of the game’s more colorful personalities, called the bounty allegations excuses and “High School Charlie stuff.”

He added of Johnson’s “fat” comment: “I resent that. I’ve been on a diet, lost a couple of pounds. I thought I was looking good.”

Ryan was not the only one who found humor in the unsportsmanlike hit. “The NFL Today,” the pregame show on CBS, devoted a long segment the next week to what became known as the Bounty Bowl. The host, Brent Musburger, chuckled at Ryan’s remarks. “Oh, the rips you can make in 30 seconds,” he said. Irv Cross asserted that the Eagles had a reward system for big plays, not a bounty system. “What they are is aggressive and arrogant,” he said.

“What they are is in trouble,” their “NFL Today” colleague Will McDonough added, noting that players were not allowed to receive noncontractual money from a team.

Finally, Chicago Coach Mike Ditka, who had a checkered history with Ryan, the Bears’ defensive coordinator when they won the Super Bowl in 1986, added a dollop of sarcasm during a satellite interview. “That would seem much too constructive for him to think of anything like that,” Ditka said of Ryan.

Set aside the humor, however, and there are many parallels between the Bounty Bowl and the current scandal which led to the suspensions of Gregg Williams, Sean Payton and other coaches and executives for the New Orleans Saints, punishments that were upheld this week after an appeal to Commissioner Roger Goodell.

In both instances, there were initial denials and dismissals by players that it was all “part of the game.” Some tried to make distinctions between “big-play bonuses” and bounties. There was even a tape: Zendejas claimed to have recorded a telephone conversation in which the Eagles’ special teams coach, Al Roberts, warned him of the bounty in the week leading up to the game.

The N.F.L. looked into the matter, though not as zealously as it pursued the Saints scandal.

“Calling it an investigation would be overstating it,” said the Hall of Fame sportswriter Ray Didinger, who covered the Eagles for The Philadelphia Daily News and now writes for CSNPhilly.com. “It was more of an inquiry.”

The N.F.L.’s security chief met with Ryan, Roberts and several Eagles players but found no evidence of wrongdoing.

“After a thorough review of all information available to the league, Commissioner Tagliabue has concluded that there is no proof that ‘bounties’ were placed on any Dallas Cowboy player by the Philadelphia Eagles,” the N.F.L. said in a statement, referring to Paul Tagliabue. “Nor is there convincing evidence of an intent to injure any Cowboys’ player or to make contact with any player outside the rules of the game.”

Ryan reacted in typical fashion: he demanded an apology from Johnson.

The commissioner’s ruling came just days before a rematch between the teams in Philadelphia. The game was called Bounty Bowl II. “The NFL Today” promoted the game with on-screen “wanted” posters of players. Tagliabue attended the game. Small and Zendejas played.

The Eagles’ 20-10 victory passed without incident between the teams, but Philadelphia fans pelted Johnson and everyone else they could reach with snowballs. The television commentators Verne Lundquist and Terry Bradshaw endured a barrage inside their open-air broadcast booth.

“I got to tell you what a joy it is to come here to Philadelphia to dodge ice balls,” Lundquist said in the telecast’s final seconds.

Didinger never found any clear evidence of a bounty system, but he is convinced that Small was acting on Ryan’s wishes, whether they were stated or implied, and was compensated with money or simply the coach’s favor.

“Looking at the film of the play, there is no other logical explanation,” he said. “Somebody put this idea in Jessie Small’s head.”

Didinger also believes that Johnson’s allegations would have been taken more seriously at the time were it not for the personalities involved: the blustery Johnson, the smart-alecky Ryan and a tiny journeyman kicker in Zendejas.

“There was a slapstick element to it,” Didinger said, noting that the incident might not have been brushed aside so quickly if a star like Joe Montana or Phil Simms were involved.

Attitudes have changed, and teams, the news media and fans take excessive roughness much more seriously than they did 23 years ago. That is a reflection of the league’s emphasis on safety issues and the awareness that the deaths of some former players have been linked to injuries sustained on the field. They include Andre Waters — Ryan’s favorite enforcer, who was on the field for the Bounty Bowls.

“To a large degree, it was laughed off,” Didinger said of the Bounty Bowls. “No one is laughing now.”
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whoa the Broncos released Andre Goodman

a few years late, but still
About fucking time. Keep reading Denver reporters defend him with "DON'T FORGET THAT INT HE HAD AGAINST THE VIKINGS!!!!!" No. A fucking DT could have caught that gift, all he had to do was not drop a pass directly to him.

Now his pick 6 against the Jets was nice, too bad he was regularly getting abused by basically every average WR in the league
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Old 04-14-2012, 10:45 AM   #1344
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Kalil will be gone..
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In hindsight, I wish the Falcons had not done the deal they did for Julio Jones so they could offer the same pieces this year to move up for Kalil. That line is the one thing holding them back.
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...headline_stack

Roddy White is a dickhead.. When players get this out of control and keep fucking up via social media, the coach, GM, and owner should step up and ban them from things like Twitter, Facebook, etc..
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I just don't understand how hard it is for them to NOT say dumb shit
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How is Roddy White 30, it seems like he was just drafted a couple of years ago.
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Roddy White is a dickhead.. When players get this out of control and keep fucking up via social media, the coach, GM, and owner should step up and ban them from things like Twitter, Facebook, etc..
Yeah. There's no excuse at all for that. He was being a jackass. #period
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Same when he said all that shit about NOLA..

http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf...ther_page.html
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Meh. That's not that bad. I think it was trash talk gone a little too far, whereas the homophobic stuff was blatantly out of line.
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Saying that God gave New Orleans a championship so the city wouldn't fall apart isn't out of line??
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Saying that God gave New Orleans a championship so the city wouldn't fall apart isn't out of line??
When you look at it in the context of the other tweets and the trash that was being talked on both sides, no. I think it tiptoes the line between appropriate and inappropriate depending on who reads it, whereas his refusal to back down from his borderline homophobic comments is just ignorant.
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Show me the Saints trash talk..
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Dude it was in the article. There was back and forth on both sides. He called them the Aints, Will Smith tweeted his Super Bowl ring, Scott Shanle said something, Tracy Porter said Falcons fans were following him to know what it was like to follow a real champion, White said the comment about God, etc...

It's a rivalry game. I've been at the Superdome and the Georgia Dome when they've played. There's always something being said by one side to the other. It would be different if he said the God stuff and then continued to harp on it like he did the gay stuff, but it was one tweet among several that was nothing but trash talk.
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Kalil will be gone..
Are you aware that there is a process where teams can trade picks?
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Does this mean Byron Leftwich is a better QB than Peyton Manning?

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He really has two titles???



He's prob better than Peyton anyway.
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I wonder the same thing. Luckily chlamydia doesn't inhibit all pro play
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He really has two titles???



He's prob better than Peyton anyway.
Just one but had the chance to have 2 rings if the Steelers had beaten the Packers the previous year.
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