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Old 12-07-2017, 05:53 PM   #41
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Which means they won't do it
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Old 12-07-2017, 05:54 PM   #42
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Oh, they probably won't. It's fun to have hope sometimes though.
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Old 12-07-2017, 05:55 PM   #43
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Credibility. She's a name. Casual fans know her as the greatest female fighter ever via years of mainstream exposure. The specifics of how her streak ended aren't a big deal. It's not as ingrained in the typical WWE fan's mind as her legacy.
I think the typical fan remembers her crying that losing gave her ptsd on the view and then going on to get humiliated again. It was pretty famous
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Old 12-07-2017, 05:58 PM   #44
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I don't think Ronda Rousey's interview on The View is as stuck in a typical WWE fan's mind as you think it is.
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Old 12-07-2017, 06:03 PM   #45
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What do you mean by a “typical fan”?
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I don't think Ronda Rousey's interview on The View is as stuck in a typical WWE fan's mind as you think it is.
I played kn every media outlet including espn. It had more eyes on it than any fight she ever had. Or donyou hink ufc ppvs draw better than the toady show?
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Old 12-07-2017, 06:06 PM   #47
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Shes a laughing stock. People have short memories s hopefully that worsk out
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Old 12-07-2017, 06:10 PM   #48
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The fact that it was shown in the media does not mean it left a lasting impression on casual viewers.

Definitely not nearly as much as years and years and years of "Ronda Rousey is making female fighting a thing" getting constant mainstream attention.
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Old 12-07-2017, 06:14 PM   #49
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It was 3 years, calm your tits
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Anyone wanna take bets on who fucks her?
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...well who she fucks might be more accurate
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vs. one interview that was shown on media outlets for like a week when it happened.

Calm yours.
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Except it soured the entire fan base against her so you wont get any float over. Youre trying to what? Draw casual mma fans that are also casual wrestling fans?

Huge market ya got there.
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You might just be better off using the one night she will draw (her debut) and just having asuka murder her
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Except it soured the entire fan base against her so you wont get any float over. Youre trying to what? Draw casual mma fans that are also casual wrestling fans?

Huge market ya got there.
That interview soured her entire fan base against her? Are you basing that on your personal feelings about it? That's silly but it's also beside the point...

It was a blip on the radar in comparison to the mainstream attention she got for being a credible fighter. Which... follow me here... is what they're taking advantage of because it's what most people, who don't care about/follow UFC religiously, know her for. It's instant credibility.

Unless you think the crossover between WWE fan and hardcore UFC fan who thinks Rousey's a bitch for crying is just so massive that people are gonna tune out.
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Old 12-07-2017, 06:32 PM   #56
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Are you really denying that shes the joke of mma? Do you...do you even follow if? Thankfully punk came along or shed be the biggest joke running.
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"Hardcore mma fansz"

Ie people who watch the today show
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SHE DOESNT HAVE ANY CREDIBILITY

If she did dana would still book her
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I'm saying who gives a fuck what she is to the hardcore MMA fan. That is what I'm saying. There's a MUCH larger audience who only knows her as the most dominant female fighter of all time. Which is how she'll be presented. And the casual WWE fan, WHO ISN'T A HUGE MMA MARK, isn't gonna sit there thinking "Yeah, this all sounds good... but that interview she did on The View tho..."
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"They want to draw rousey fans that dont actually follow rousey"

Oh. Gotcha.
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My God, you really have become CyNick-lite.

Who broke you? Tell me which poster is responsible for this.
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Youre talking about a sect of an audence that doesnt exist those who dont follow her but will follow her to the wwe.

Its broken logic. Its not even logic.
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"Only hard core fans will know about that interview (false, its the opposite in many regards but lets let you have that point.) Theyre after casual fans that follow her anywhere she goes."

How is that tracking for you?
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I've said "casual/typical WWE fan" multiple times in this conversation to make it clear who I'm talking about.

Now you're telling me that I'm talking about people who will FOLLOW her to the WWE.

Seriously. Who broke you? It was ABT, wasn't it?
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Maybe there is a sect of the audience that is a huge rousey mark but they only watch shows in arenas
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Never seen her fight, only thing I've seen her in is movies. I think she'll be fine if she's treated as a female Brock and they keep Asuka away from her.
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I've said "casual/typical WWE fan" multiple times in this conversation to make it clear who I'm talking about.

Now you're telling me that I'm talking about people who will FOLLOW her to the WWE.

Seriously. Who broke you? It was ABT, wasn't it?
Ohhhh youre sayimg she wont draw but might get over. I agree with that. Good booking can get her over if she can work.
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Old 12-07-2017, 06:54 PM   #70
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Same for how they handle any potential interaction with Steph since Steph promos are almost always character and/or momentum killers.
I hope she actually gets to say...well anything, back to Steph during promos. Hate that pretty much everyone just has to stand there and take it.

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Old 12-07-2017, 07:39 PM   #71
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What do you mean by a “typical fan”?
He means kids and 20-30 somethings don't give a flying fuck about the View
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Old 12-07-2017, 07:58 PM   #72
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SHE DOESNT HAVE ANY CREDIBILITY

If she did dana would still book her
Believe me Dana would love to still have her. But she is shot mentally as a fighter and does not want to fight anymore.
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Old 12-07-2017, 08:05 PM   #73
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Believe me Dana would love to still have her. But she is shot mentally as a fighter and does not want to fight anymore.
After he last loss there is no money in her. Hell buyrates were way down for her come back match (that she was humiliated in.)

I mean if shes fighting for nickles im sure hed give her an undercard bout.

There is no money in her though. She was dominating when the scene formed because there was no money and thus no talent. She got over and the money came with it, a far superior breed of fighters (see: well rounded) came and humbled her and everyone of that "generation." Shes done. Dana knows it. Vince is a shark amd thinks he can squeeze a few dimes out of her. Cant blame him i just hope he didnt pay whole sale for damaged goods.
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Old 12-07-2017, 08:53 PM   #74
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If she would win her first fight back though in a dominate fashion her next fight would be a draw.
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Old 12-07-2017, 09:26 PM   #75
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If she had yeah
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Old 12-07-2017, 09:26 PM   #76
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She didn't tho.
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Old 12-07-2017, 10:20 PM   #77
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It all depends on how good a professional wrestler she is. If she is great, it's easy to build her up. If she sucks, convincing fans to forget her recent past will be much harder.

Fact is, at one point in time, 13 million people were watching her weigh ins on YouTube. If even a fraction of that is still big into her, they are sitting on a potential fortune.
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Old 12-08-2017, 12:00 AM   #78
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I think the typical fan remembers her crying that losing gave her ptsd on the view and then going on to get humiliated again. It was pretty famous
First I am hearing of it.......
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Old 12-08-2017, 12:35 AM   #79
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Yeah I don't think typical wrestling fans will know or care about her post fight breakdowns. They may know about the losses but I don't think that hurts her in a rigged sport.

It'll come down to her in ring work, and more importantly her character and booking.
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Old 12-08-2017, 02:15 AM   #80
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That shit was on on mainstream media, though. It's clearly how everyone will perceive her.
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