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Old 09-18-2014, 08:55 PM   #1
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What If ... WCW raids WWE's big stars earlier than it did
Got the thread idea after being inspired about the recent Monday Night War series on the Network and the Wrestling Observer's recent critic of them.

What if instead of raiding or going after WWE's big stars in the early to mid 90s, WCW and Ted Turner started the raiding process a lot earlier.

Would WCW eventually still end up falling apart in the end?

Would the "war" still have occurred albeit at an earlier date and as a possibly different or Attitude-like era?

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I’d seen other episodes and as someone who lived through it and through the entire evolution of the business, the entire narrative of evil Ted vs. undermanned but smarter Vince was annoying just because in a free enterprise world, evil Ted did nothing Vince didn’t do, and really did far less in the 80s. Plus, the overemphasis on Ted Turner, who may have spent five minutes a year thinking about the wrestling business, and underplaying of Eric Bischoff has, if anything, gotten even worse over time. If Turner really wanted to beat Vince McMahon as bad as they said, he could have done so in 1989 by simply raiding every top star Vince had when their deals were up. In reality, WCW was put on a small budget and told to make money.
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Every idea, from going live in prime time, or late going head-to-head, were things Jim Herd and Bill Watts wanted to do and were turned down. Their jobs were to balance the budget, and keep in mind, this was a budget where zero revenue was listed for television rights fees, which meant they had to break even on house shows, merch and PPV alone. Watts even came close to pulling it off, but alienated the talent in doing so with all the budget slashing. If they were given in the budget television rights fees of even $8 million a year, Herd would have run a profitable company and Watts would have had an even more profitable company.

Bischoff was given an open checkbook, and the green light to really have a chance to win and all the weapons to do so. He failed because he presented a product that turned off much of his audience, and because he had no understanding that in wrestling, the present doesn’t last forever and playing a pat hand for too long is death. Or at least was in the old business, which didn’t have the guaranteed cushion on television money.

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Old 09-18-2014, 09:12 PM   #2
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By the late 80's the WWF brand became larger than any of the wrestlers, even Hogan.
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Old 09-19-2014, 04:31 AM   #3
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Probably no nWo because Bischoff wouldn't have been there to steal New Japan's idea.
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Old 09-19-2014, 08:29 AM   #4
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I believe that if Watts had someone to tell him that they needed folks to do stuff off the top rope and to be more reasonable with the talent, he could have made a serious run at Vince with WCW.
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Old 09-19-2014, 10:28 AM   #5
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WCW still would have fell apart because it had a bad business structure.
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Old 09-19-2014, 11:04 AM   #6
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Watts with a blank checkbook still couldnt book to either

a) An Audience outside of the south
b) A teen and young audult audience.

Watts was a fossil and even with top talent wouldnt have done a thing.
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Old 09-19-2014, 12:48 PM   #7
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I blame Watts for pushing his son Erik down our throats.

His ideas were still stuck in the 80's.
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Old 09-25-2014, 06:25 AM   #8
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I say 1996 was the perfect time for what happened. If a few years earlier they took Yoko and Luger for example... meh. It needed to be ultra cool Nash and Hall.
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If they would have nabbed Hogan and Savage in 1991-1992 instead of 1994 then that could have been a big change
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