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Old 03-17-2012, 01:34 PM   #41
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It really just depends on whether or not you were borderline retarded before you began getting dropped on your head.
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Old 03-17-2012, 01:43 PM   #42
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Before? Began? Brother I am in a state of eternal headdrop. Still more intelligent than most of the population according to tests. But I don't know hoe much that means toward general intellect other than the ability to retain information. But anyone will think they are smart. Ones own intelligence is pretty hard to be honestly objective about.
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Old 03-17-2012, 01:53 PM   #43
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Destor pretty much covered it. But the hard hitting style where guys basically "learn" from previous matches, which results in reversal/counter strings to get more intricate (which is cool), but also results in guys taking multiple big moves/finishers to go down, and also stronger versions of finishers.

I mean, in Dragon Gate I've seen guys kick out of Cima's Schwien off the top rope. I mean, come on.

And the problem now is, or at least recently, is that certain places in the American indy scene have bastardized it rally bad, so it's less about "learning" and building a story over time, and more about "let's hit each other really hard and have a ton of head dropping moves and finishes in a match that doesn't really need it."

So the reason I think it's bad in the long run is that instead of using psychology, it's disregarding psychology for fancy spots.
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Old 03-17-2012, 02:05 PM   #44
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I'd agree with that
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Old 03-17-2012, 02:09 PM   #45
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Old 03-17-2012, 02:35 PM   #46
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Depends on the length of the match but I'd say 5 or six is a good number. To be fair though, that would also limit the number of dead on head strikes. Like shouldn't be able to take more than 8 or so before yr knocked out. If they are precise.
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You Cn land on yr head from a backdrop, flapjack, northern lights, or belly to back release suplex. I mean they are letting seth rollins do the curb stomp in wwe, and that move fucking sucks. Oh and Vladimir kozlovs chokeslam with he leg is for some reason the stiffest bump.
what the fuck are you on about
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Old 03-17-2012, 02:39 PM   #47
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how in the name of fuck has anybody anywhere ever landed on their head from a flapjack
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Old 03-17-2012, 02:41 PM   #48
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The curb stop Seth Rollins is doing is nowhere near as bad as the one Super Dragon does.
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Old 03-17-2012, 02:45 PM   #49
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This is Clox we're talking about. He could probably land on his head from a headlock takedown.
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Old 03-17-2012, 02:46 PM   #50
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That's how great khali killed a dude. Not personally. But if you tuck yr head instead of turning to the side and taking a face bump, and yr high enough, instant death.
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Old 03-17-2012, 03:07 PM   #51
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FFS Clox proof read your posts,especially the ones where you are claiming to be of above average I.Q. , and yr is not a word.
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Old 03-17-2012, 03:08 PM   #52
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Old 03-17-2012, 03:25 PM   #53
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That's how great khali killed a dude. Not personally. But if you tuck yr head instead of turning to the side and taking a face bump, and yr high enough, instant death.
and you were using it as some kind of defence that head-drops are okay, like it's "part of the business", which is complete bollocks
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Old 03-17-2012, 05:25 PM   #54
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Recently watched Macho Man's first matches in the WWF...was so good. Not a single head-drop that I could see.
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Old 03-17-2012, 05:34 PM   #55
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I'm NT defending head drops, I'm just saying I take them. I usually try not to land on my head, and haven't during a match. But during training you take a bunch of different bumps. When you her a little advanced people wanna try different moves includ those which might end in a neck bump. If you practice neck bumps enough you will land on yr head.
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Old 03-17-2012, 05:35 PM   #56
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Hell Johny saint never bumps. But it doesn't mean I'm not gonna take em. Al snow doesn't blade, neither have I, doesn't meaning wont.
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Old 03-17-2012, 05:55 PM   #57
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Old 03-17-2012, 06:13 PM   #59
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I'm NT defending head drops, I'm just saying I take them. I usually try not to land on my head, and haven't during a match. But during training you take a bunch of different bumps. When you her a little advanced people wanna try different moves includ those which might end in a neck bump. If you practice neck bumps enough you will land on yr head.
bullshit. I've taken a million backdrops, flapjacks, germans, piledrivers etc, more than a couple Northern Lights etc and I've been dropped on my head once ever, be it training or in a match and that was a complete clusterfuck involving a new guy making a mistake under instruction and mistiming. And fucking please "a little advanced" and "wanna try different moves", you sound like fucking kids with some indy tapes and access to a wrestling ring. You are a joke and an embarrassment.
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Come on man. You've never hit yr head on the mat taking a back drop?
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Come on man. You've never hit yr head on the mat taking a back drop?
not that I recall. I've landed on my arse, my legs, my feet, my hips, I've had my thighs collide in a mini-domnio effect and crush my nads etc. But not my head. Even so, that's not the point. Yes people can land on their heads accidentally/take the occasional bad bump etc. But you're saying "you take them", that stuff you practice regularly involves a situation where you could land like that/where it would be acceptable for that to happen. And that is fucking bullshit. That's the whole point. It's fucking laziness. It's taking short cuts. It's doing dumb reckless shit (and I mean shit) for the sake of doing dumb reckless shit to get a reaction. And it's so fucking widespread nowadays, especially amongst these skinny fucking mongs that are coming in every day to "learn to wrestle" because their latest Dragon Gate StiffHeadDropMania III tape is full of guys that look just like them and they wanna do that shit and the only thing they think you need to do to become/to be able to tell their friends that they're a "professional wrestler" nowadays is buy a pair of kickpads, the latest indy tape and go training with some clueless bellend once a week. It's fucking everywhere
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Old 03-17-2012, 06:55 PM   #69
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Also I trained almost everyday and now I train 2-3 tines a week. I'm definetly getting better. My training partner is a 300 pound 6'7 black dude who played college football as a linebacker. Yeah.....

He's mad good though.

He's not training me though. My trainers have both been in the business 18 years.
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Old 03-17-2012, 06:58 PM   #70
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not that I recall. I've landed on my arse, my legs, my feet, my hips, I've had my thighs collide in a mini-domnio effect and crush my nads etc. But not my head. Even so, that's not the point. Yes people can land on their heads accidentally/take the occasional bad bump etc. But you're saying "you take them", that stuff you practice regularly involves a situation where you could land like that/where it would be acceptable for that to happen. And that is fucking bullshit. That's the whole point. It's fucking laziness. It's taking short cuts. It's doing dumb reckless shit (and I mean shit) for the sake of doing dumb reckless shit to get a reaction. And it's so fucking widespread nowadays, especially amongst these skinny fucking mongs that are coming in every day to "learn to wrestle" because their latest Dragon Gate StiffHeadDropMania III tape is full of guys that look just like them and they wanna do that shit and the only thing they think you need to do to become/to be able to tell their friends that they're a "professional wrestler" nowadays is buy a pair of kickpads, the latest indy tape and go training with some clueless bellend once a week. It's fucking everywhere
HEY!!!

I wear kickpads!

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Also I trained almost everyday and now I train 2-3 tines a week. I'm definetly getting better. My training partner is a 300 pound 6'7 black dude who played college football as a linebacker. Yeah.....

He's mad good though.
I love how you specifically pointed out that he is a 'black dude'.
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Also I trained almost everyday and now I train 2-3 tines a week. I'm definetly getting better. My training partner is a 300 pound 6'7 black dude who played college football as a linebacker. Yeah.....

He's mad good though.
I was talking about in general as opposed to you when it comes to the training part, although with everything you say you certainly fit the bill.

And what do you mean "training partner"? As in, you only train with one guy?


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HEY!!!

I wear kickpads!

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you aren't the first person even this week to say this to me when I go off. tbh plenty of guys wear kickpads who are great, Punk, Jericho, Van Dam, Edge etc, just like 90% that wear them elsewhere are shitttttt. That and I bought proper boots after like my 3rd match or something
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Old 03-17-2012, 07:11 PM   #74
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I have proper boots too. In fact, I bought them for my first match waaaaay back in 2003.

But I move better and feel more flexible with kickpads. And they look cooler.
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In fact, it's not the kickpads that annoy me, it's the thousands of indy guys that just wear baggy PVC shorts and a tank top. So CSL... what's your attire?
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Old 03-17-2012, 07:16 PM   #76
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just remember how flexible and comfortable you feel when you Van Dam your ankle and c'mon son, unless you have some bwadass kickpads to go with bwadass gear like Sabin/Punk/Gabriel, they don't look cooler at allll
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If you're referring to trunks... that's what I wear. Along with wrestling trainers with 'ankle supports'. My boots are in England, no way would I plan on buying another pair here in Germany, things seem to have gotten mad expensive over here.
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In fact, it's not the kickpads that annoy me, it's the thousands of indy guys that just wear baggy PVC shorts and a tank top. So CSL... what's your attire?
baggy pleathers are the worst, I'd use those as reference as opposed to kickpads but kickpads are far more prevalent.

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If you're referring to trunks... that's what I wear. Along with wrestling trainers with 'ankle supports'. My boots are in England, no way would I plan on buying another pair here in Germany, things seem to have gotten mad expensive over here.
nah, I meant just guys that have clearly put some time/thought/spent some money on their gear, not any particular style
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