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Old 01-10-2017, 03:18 PM   #361
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Does Ibushi equal more subs from the non-IWC crowd?
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Old 01-10-2017, 03:37 PM   #362
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Probably not but he made a big enough impression in the CWC to gain interest. Then again they might just want to throw him on the card to up the interest in Japan although calling up Nakamura would do more for that than Ibushi would.
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Old 01-10-2017, 03:58 PM   #363
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Kayfabe wise is Seth Really wanted to get HHH to come out of hiding he'd pedigree Steph.

They hot-shotted that angle too early.
Yeah, it's one of the kayfabe writing issues I have with guys like Triple H at Wrestlemania.

All this time in hiding, and yet, come Wrestlemania that big something will happen that will make him come out of hiding and agree to a match.
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Old 01-10-2017, 04:04 PM   #364
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I think HHH will cost Seth the Rumble. Which in that case you didn't need HHH costing Seth the title 6 months ago.
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Old 01-10-2017, 04:05 PM   #365
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Probably not but he made a big enough impression in the CWC to gain interest. Then again they might just want to throw him on the card to up the interest in Japan although calling up Nakamura would do more for that than Ibushi would.
But you're only catering to the CWC/IWC/Meltzer sheep,,,, and they'll be subscribed already.
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Old 01-10-2017, 04:15 PM   #366
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A cruiserweight match isn't really going to draw any casual fans anyway. It will probably be on the pre show or kickoff the show.
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Old 01-10-2017, 04:27 PM   #367
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I'd be for Taker vs Roman if Roman retires Taker and turns heel.
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Old 01-10-2017, 06:04 PM   #368
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Wouldn't be surprised if they have Kota Ibushi take on The Undertaker since they wanna have a match like Wrestle Kingdom
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Old 01-11-2017, 01:30 AM   #369
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Recent speculation by the Observer implied the WWE is looking at only 2 more matches for Taker's Mania career although it all depends on if Taker decides Mania 33 or Mania 34 is his last.

If Taker decides to not retire, its very likely going to be Taker-Cena at Mania 33 and Taker-Reigns at Mania 34.

If Taker decides this year is his last, Taker-Reigns is very likely to occur at Mania 33 instead.

Observer did imply previously the WWE has a contingency plan in place in case Reigns fails again to become their new mega star but likely wouldn't kick in till after Taker-Reigns. Rollins is penciled in right now as that person but WWE also has plans to keep going with the Reigns experiment till at least Mania 34.
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Old 01-11-2017, 03:33 AM   #370
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Just do Cena vs. Taker and Reigns vs. Goldberg. Give Taker the Rumble and have Goldberg beat Brock at Fastlane after Shane shows up and costs Brock leading to Shane vs. Brock. Simple. AJ Styles demands a chance to prove himself after losing the WWE Title at the Rumble, while Sami Zayn wants a chance to prove himself over on RAW -- those two become a natural lock (and an easy win for AJ Styles).

After what I heard happened on RAW, it seems we are probably heading to Charlotte vs. Nia Jax or a Fatal 4-Way with Stephanie involvement. Not big on on the 4-Way, but I can understand why they are doing it, given their "stock" in these women, even though I feel it devalues them and Nia isn't nearly ready for the position she is in.
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Old 01-11-2017, 11:24 AM   #373
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Old 01-11-2017, 11:26 AM   #374
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Old 01-11-2017, 12:41 PM   #376
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Dunno if anyone has mentioned it but you could see some of the contigency plan for takers decision at raw I think. The stroman staring at undertaker on tv bit...there's no room for that if current plans are to be believed. I'm wondering if they go with undertaker V stroman at mania if he decides to stick it out until 34. Either that or we get another triple threat at this mania. Taker V reigns V stroman and they obviously have reigns go over both (gives more boost to their last ditch effort to push him again) and softens the blow of taker losing his last match at wm as stroman can take the fall. Stroman has now indicated clearly he wants reigns and he presumably wants taker because of the aforementioned tv spot. Why else set those up now?
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Old 01-11-2017, 01:18 PM   #378
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If stroman goes over Rollins in their little feud now too....that's clear indication he would go after Roman next. And if he goes over rollins...really what else would be the next logical step in his push than to test him in the main event?
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I'd have to think Daniel Bryan is a likely HOF inductee next year in New Orleans.
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Recent news from the Observer hinted at the WWE currently leaning away from the idea of Taker's Mania match involving the WWE or Universal belt. Could be a possible sign Cena and Reigns won't both be grabbing gold at the Rumble if its true.

Observer did hint recently the WWE isn't planning on another Mania coronation event for Reigns so if he wins the Universal belt, its either at the Rumble or after Mania.
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I am uncomfortable with the ever pressing need to fit everyone on the card for Wrestlemania. Pulling in part time wrestlers does make an event special and give it that big show feel, but I can't deal with the amount of part timers that will be on the this card. Folks like AJ Styles, Dean Ambrose, Miz, Big Cass, New Day, all killed it this year and likely won't be given a huge WM spot because not only will Undertaker, Lesnar and Triple H be on the card but also Shaq and Goldberg.

The biggest trouble I have is making a Wrestlemania match for AJ Styles. I don't have faith that Samoa Joe is going to be the answer to this issue, plus I don't think he's deserving of being hot shotted into a huge match like that. Would I take it if it happens? Yeah absolutely, but I don't count on it.

I really can't even fathom a card that will make me feel too excited for this show. I don't see an opponent for AJ or Cena better than each other either and that match has been done enough by the time Mania comes.
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Brian Alvarez mentioned earlier today that outside of the three "set in stone matches" that WWE is really changing up the card it would seem, and that many of the planned matches are ones no one has even thought about.


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Bryan Alvarez did confirm that James Ellsworth is not being considered for Undertaker's opponent at WrestleMania
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Old 01-11-2017, 08:49 PM   #384
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Lmao love how they gave the 2 Romans alternate color outfits like an old school fighting game. I'm going with red roman.
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Card has been set for some time. But they won't report what it is because they don't have the Intel. Failing site getting desperate for clicks.
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UPDATE from Wrestling Observer:


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* There have been some changes made in WrestleMania plans as noted in recent weeks, with the major thing being that the proposed Undertaker vs. John Cena match is off the show. Vince McMahon has changed his mind on the match.


* Undertaker right now is not scheduled to challenge for either the WWE or Universal Title on the show. He will face someone on the Raw roster. There was a tease of Braun Strowman on Raw, but it will not be Strowman as things stand right now.


* The key matches remain Brock Lesnar vs. Bill Goldberg, which based on current hints and direction looks likely to be presented as the main event on the show, HHH vs. Seth Rollins and Big Show vs. Shaquille O’Neal. There has been the long tease of Kevin Owens vs. Chris Jericho. With Jericho still on the books for Fozzy touring over the summer, Mania seems like the place to finally do the match. They have just started teasing a split up of The Wyatt Family on Smackdown.


* Roman Reigns will obviously be in one of the major matches on the show. This also leaves open spots for Cena, A.J. Styles, Finn Balor (who is expected to be back in action around March unless that date is a Rumble swerve -- which it probably isn’t) and Dean Ambrose. Ambrose and Miz are just starting a program and timing wise I could see them building to a blow-off.


* There will be six or seven major main event level singles matches on the show, not including cruiserweights or women. The women’s match is not finalized, but Charlotte vs. Sasha Banks vs. Bayley vs. Nia Jax is the current proposed main woman’s match.
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The WrestleMania show isn’t finalized, but there is an idea on the table where Joe will debut with a major push and be in one of the top few matches on the show, which also makes it likely he’s starting very soon and would have to have a big Rumble if he’s in it.
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I'm not convinced that Cena/Taker is off the table. I'm also not convinced that Brock/Goldberg is happening. I think Undertaker and Strowman could be the last two in the Rumble -- that is what the foreshadowing was about.

I can see Dean Ambrose & Renee Young vs. The Miz & Maryse making the main card too. That will get SmackDown women on the show. AJ Styles gets left with Sami Zayn.
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Undertaker vs someone on raw

Not reigns Rollins Jericho Owens strowman Goldberg or lesnar

Who could that be..who? Who? Who?
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The last part is pretty interesting since either the WWE finally realized part-timers were hogging up too many spots or the same guys kept locking up too many spots leaving little for new stars.

Past few years its basically been a combo of Reigns, Cena, Lesnar, Triple H, and Taker hogging up main event match spots. Goldberg, Rollins, and possibly Strowman joining for this year to make it 8 guys for 6 spots (3 matches). Either more from the usual combo have to get demoted or more main event tier matches get added.
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I'd get behind Cena vs The Miz for the WWE Championship. Quite easy to write with Miz's Hollywood gimmick and Cena getting another film role.

I also though about HHH & Strowman vs Reigns and Rollins. Braun has issues with both as HHH has done and it saves a spot on the card. With Braun absolutely destroying Reigns and Rollins and looking like a monster until Ambrose interferes and unites The Shield.
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I could also see The Undertaker vs Finn Balor. "Battle of the Longest Entrance".
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It was also implied the headliner could possibly be:

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The Undertaker
Come on, bro. They already have a headliner in there.

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