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Old 01-01-2017, 10:32 PM   #281
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TPWW World Championship
Noid w/ #1-wwf-fan vs. The CyNick (C) w/ his agent Heyman
Special Guest Referee: Gorgeous Dale Newstead

TPWW Casual Forum Championship
Lock Jaw vs. Heisenberg (C)

TPWW Women's Championship
The debuting SlickyTrickyDamona vs. Black Widow

TPWW Interforum Championship - The Truly Great Guys EXPLODE
DaveWadding vs. Frank Drebin (C)

TPWW Tag Team Championship
Broken Hasney and Brother Vito w/ Fanguard 1 vs. The Windsor Connection (C) (will be a handicap match if RDD no-shows)

Baltimore Street Fight
Damien Rey vs. Droford

Gauntlet Match
Owen Brown vs. The Sock Accounts

Inaugural Tazz Dan Memorial Battle Royal
Downunder returns and wins as a mystery entrant

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I'd pay $9.99 for that
Throw me in v. Juan in a "Loser leaves TPWW" match and you've got yourself a show.
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Old 01-01-2017, 11:10 PM   #282
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...and King of Lurkers Tournament Finals...I won't show up...
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Old 01-01-2017, 11:19 PM   #283
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...and King of Lurkers Tournament Finals...I won't show up...
You're in v. Dennis Stamp pending him being booked, but as of right now, according to Mr. Stamp, when reached for comment, had this to say:

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Old 01-02-2017, 12:25 AM   #284
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That street fight with Droford should be the inaugural MLB open thread championship.
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Old 01-02-2017, 01:20 AM   #285
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No idea why everyone wants to see a triple threat RAW Women's Championship match at WM 33...Charlotte and Sasha have had their feud, it was supposed to be done and over with at Roadblock: End of the Line, and I think Charlotte v. Bayley one-on-one would be amazing given the proper build and time on the show. Put Bayley over in a singles match at Mania and then after a title defense or 2 for Bayley at PPV's maybe have her put the title on the line v. Sasha @ SummerSlam. I think Bayley v. Sasha @ SummerSlam is a good fit, especially considering their history and the classic they put on the night before SummerSlam 2015 @ NXT TakeOver: Brooklyn for the NXT Women's Championship.
I don't think it's so much that people want to see a Triple Threat so much as people think we will see a Triple Threat. Sasha Banks, despite Vince apparently losing faith in her, is a "star" in the division. She will be at WrestleMania somewhere. She's on the RAW brand. It goes to fit that people would predict she'd end up involved in the RAW brand women's match somehow. Unless they are going to do three or more women's matches on the show (and I wouldn't put it past them with how they are trying to promote the girls as more important now), it goes to reason that Sasha Banks would have to fit into the RAW Women's Title match.

I personally have no interest in Charlotte vs. Bayley. I didn't really love Bayley that much in NXT (I thought she stole Becky's thunder), and although her climb was good, once you'd seen it that was pretty much all with her. If they're doing the title shot at the Rumble, you're going to have to work really hard to keep things interesting until April, considering they are already having televised non-title matches now.
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Old 01-02-2017, 09:55 AM   #286
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Don't be silly Noid. Of course people want to see a PPV match that they readily give away on free TV over and over again.
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Old 01-02-2017, 10:18 AM   #287
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TPWW World Championship
Noid w/ #1-wwf-fan vs. The CyNick (C) w/ his agent Heyman
Special Guest Referee: Gorgeous Dale Newstead

TPWW Casual Forum Championship
Lock Jaw vs. Heisenberg (C)

TPWW Women's Championship
The debuting SlickyTrickyDamona vs. Black Widow

TPWW Interforum Championship - The Truly Great Guys EXPLODE
DaveWadding vs. Frank Drebin (C)

TPWW Tag Team Championship
Broken Hasney and Brother Vito w/ Fanguard 1 vs. The Windsor Connection (C) (will be a handicap match if RDD no-shows)

Baltimore Street Fight
Damien Rey vs. Droford

Gauntlet Match
Owen Brown vs. The Sock Accounts

Inaugural Tazz Dan Memorial Battle Royal
Downunder returns and wins as a mystery entrant

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I'd pay $9.99 for that
Manager for two high-profile matches?! I'm the Bobby Heenan of TPWW. I'll take it.
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Old 01-02-2017, 10:20 AM   #288
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Old 01-02-2017, 12:11 PM   #289
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Manager for two high-profile matches?! I'm the Bobby Heenan of TPWW. I'll take it.
Well, working two gimmicks at once might make you a bit more like Sensational Sherri and Peggy Sue. But hey - that's not all that bad!
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Old 01-02-2017, 11:46 PM   #290
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I can't remember if I posted this in here or not, but a few weeks ago I had this realization that they might do AJ Styles vs. Kane at WrestleMania. It's exactly the tone-deaf thing the WWE loves to do. It would be a presented like a "high profile" match on the same card where his brother challenges the champion. I think the story would be that AJ Styles wants in there with Cena and Taker, but Shane says no, so Styles says he is going to keep demanding a title shot until he gets his way and then the pyros go off and Kane is out to defend his brother's right to challenge. They've been protecting Kane quite auspiciously for something at Mania.

It may not be a dream match, but AJ Styles should go over, which is...something.

I won't call it an official prediction. I still wonder what the plans with the WWE Title are. I can see Cena vs. Undertaker, but I can also see that away from the belt. I can also see Samoa Joe debuting in the Royal Rumble. They wouldn't possibly do Styles vs. The Undertaker and Cena vs. Joe at Mania, would they?

The most WWE thing to do would be for Cena to win the belt and Taker to win the Rumble and AJ Styles to catch a branch on the way down. That could be Kane, or it could be a match against Nakamura or even the IC Title Ladder Match. At this point a Styles vs. Rollins RAW vs. SmackDown -- former champions proving that they belong match is somewhat appealing if Triple H agrees to sit Mania out. HA! I know.
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Old 01-02-2017, 11:48 PM   #291
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RAW hinted at GOLDBERG vs ROMAN REIGNS in my opinion
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Old 01-02-2017, 11:53 PM   #292
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If Reigns ends up winning the Universal Title at the Royal Rumble (likely) then Owens would probably be upset and throw a hissy fit and want to be put in the Rumble Match, right? That's probably how they get to Jericho vs. Owens (Owens tosses out his buddy or something). I'd really prefer to see the tag though. You could even do them as champions against American Alpha or something. Hell, Finn Balor returning to face Kevin Owens wouldn't be insane, so maybe Balor could be Zayn's partner to face Owens & Jericho for the RAW Tag Titles?

WrestleMania really needs to go for two nights with everything as booked out as it is. You really shouldn't be doing multiple Women's Title or Tag Title matches on the same show anyway. A RAW WrestleMania and a SmackDown WrestleMania, or just a Night One/Night Two event would work a lot better and give things more room to breathe. One is headlined by Cena/Taker for the WWE Title and the other is headlined by Reigns/Goldberg for the Universal Title. Brock vs. Shane on the undercard of the WWE Title one, Triple H/Seth Rollins on the undercard of the Universal Title show. A Women's Title match on each one; a Tag Title match on each one. Do the Andre Battle Royal on another and the multi-man Ladder Match on the other.

These events are going to go too long and everything is going to feel like the same.
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Old 01-03-2017, 12:07 AM   #293
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RAW hinted at GOLDBERG vs ROMAN REIGNS in my opinion
With Taker being in the Royal Rumble, I do think it could be Cena vs. Taker. But it seems he and Goldberg are your two contenders to win the whole thing. Sorry AJ, but at least you might have the best North American match in 2017 at that point in time against John Cena.

I'm not a big fan of Cena vs. Taker, but accepting that fate, do you think AJ Styles petitioning Shawn Michaels for a "dream match" would be a pretty welcome thing for WrestleMania? Since it's in San Antonio, maybe Styles goes to cheat against Cena, but HBK hits Sweet Chin Music and prevents Styles from using the title belt or something. Cena wins the title and Styles spends his nights calling out HBK and maybe even uses Bryan to get to Michaels.

If they went this route, I'd have Goldberg eliminated from the Royal Rumble...by Roman Reigns. Goldberg comes out on RAW and says he got screwed, but that was the dumbest mistake of Roman Reigns' young life. Goldberg asserts that Reigns cost him the Rumble because he doesn't want to face him at Mania. Reigns comes out and says "Your generation really is stupid, isn't it? I tossed your ass out of the Rumble because you're the guy I do want to face."

* Cena (c) vs. Taker for the WWE Title
* Reigns (c) vs. Goldberg for the Universal Title
* AJ Styles vs. Shawn Michaels
* Brock Lesnar vs. Shane McMahon
* Seth Rollins vs. Triple H
* Kevin Owens & Chris Jericho (c) vs. Sami Zayn & Finn Balor for the RAW Tag Titles
* The Wyatt Family vs. The New Day
* Charlotte (c) vs. Bayley for the RAW Women's Title with Ronda Rousey as referee
* Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal featuring Big Show, Shaq, Braun Strowman, Sheamus, Cesaro, etc.
* Nikki Bella (c) vs. every other woman on the roster in a sudden death match for the SmackDown Women's Title or a giant women's tag pitting all the babyfaces against all the heels
* The Miz (c) vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. Baron Corbin vs. Kane vs. Kalisto vs. Apollo Crews in a Ladder Match for the IC Title
* The Revival (c) vs. American Alpha for the SmackDown Tag Titles (Hulk Hogan appearance to raise the arms of Alpha)
* Neville (c) vs. Kota Ibushi for the CW Title

That's a pretty fucking hefty Mania.
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Old 01-03-2017, 12:12 AM   #294
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I'd also be fine with Sheamus & Cesaro being Owens & Jericho's opponents and Sami Zayn facing Nakamura with Finn Balor's return being held off. But I guess he could also find himself facing AJ Styles if they don't do the HBK stuff. But it's all starting to click a bit more into place. Or they do Styles vs. Balor, have Nakamura team with Zayn and still have Cesaro & Sheamus in the Battle Royal. I can see their team dissolving -- or loving to fight with each other so they can eventually fight against each other at WrestleMania. They're kind of tailor-made for the Battle Royal. Big Show vs. Shaq hasn't really got much there. It wouldn't surprise me if they did it one-on-one, but why not just have Show go after the Battle Royal and have Shaq stare him down and say he's getting the trophy and they can beat up Tony Nese and Drew Gulak to remind people of how big they are or something?
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Old 01-03-2017, 12:26 AM   #295
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I couldn't call this a "prediction," per se, but it is very easy to imagine Shane McMahon announcing that at WrestleMania, SmackDown will give the women of WWE a try chance to shine in an exhibition like nothing else in the WWE. It will be the first-ever "Femme Royal" for the SmackDown Women's Championship. The rules are that all competitors will start in the ring, but then be eliminated when they are tossed from the ring, until two girls are left to compete in a match to be won by either pinfall or submission, and he is opening the floor to the women of RAW as well.

The match ends up being Alexa Bliss vs. Becky Lynch vs. Carmella vs. La Luchadora vs. Mickie James vs. Naomi vs. Natalya vs. Alicia Fox vs. Emmalina vs. Nia Jax vs. Sasha Banks with Lita being announced as the final legend returning to the ring for the title opportunity. Maybe it comes down to Mickie and Nikki at the end, or Mickie and Sasha, or Becky and Sasha, or even Becky and Lita. It'd be a bit more intriguing than a lot of the other match possibilities. This would also be a cool place to debut Asuka, but you can also hold off on that.
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Another idea is to do Bayley vs. Charlotte vs. Sasha for the RAW Title; Alexa vs. Nikki in a short match for the SD Title; and Becky vs. "obsessed fan" Mickie in a more personal bout. Three women's matches might seem excessive, but they've kind of forced themselves into a corner with the whole "Women's Revolution" thing. One match would be token; you now have two championships, so ignoring one looks bad; but if you just do one for each belt, are you falling into the same trap as having just one match?

They'll probably just do two, but I guess the formula should really be n (Number of championships) +1.
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The Meltz reported today on Observer Radio that plans for Mania are up in the air after discussions within the last 48 hours or so...
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Hmmmm....

Last night really made me think they were teasing Goldberg vs Roman Reigns so maybe all plans are up in the air.
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The Meltz reported today on Observer Radio that plans for Mania are up in the air after discussions within the last 48 hours or so...
In other words the intern that Dave gets info from hasn't been included in the plans for Mania, so he's reporting plans are up in the air. Meanwhile, plans have been set for months.
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Another idea is to do Bayley vs. Charlotte vs. Sasha for the RAW Title; Alexa vs. Nikki in a short match for the SD Title; and Becky vs. "obsessed fan" Mickie in a more personal bout. Three women's matches might seem excessive, but they've kind of forced themselves into a corner with the whole "Women's Revolution" thing. One match would be token; you now have two championships, so ignoring one looks bad; but if you just do one for each belt, are you falling into the same trap as having just one match?

They'll probably just do two, but I guess the formula should really be n (Number of championships) +1.
I would expect a minimum of two women's matches on the main show (ie not the kickoff). My guess if they end up with at least three when all is said and done. I could see a third SDL vs Raw match just to get more girls on the show.

My guess right now is Charlotte vs Bayley one on one for RAW and Nikki vs Alexa from SDL. Bayley should probably win here (after losing at the Rumble due to cheating). I envision a Banks heel turn post Mania to set up Banks and Bayley through to SummerSlam. I would like to see Nikki get a spotlight win after all she's fine for the women's division. I feel like she hasn't gotten the respect she deserves.

Then you have Lynch and some SDL girls vs Banks and some RAW girls to get more girls on the show. Not being in the spotlight women's matches could help fuel the fire for Banks turning heel.
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Really hoping for AJ Styles vs. Shawn Michaels now. I'll be completely okay with Cena vs. Undertaker and Reigns vs. Goldberg if Styles/HBK is the third match from the top.

As for the women, I am wondering if Emmalina fits in anywhere? I'd be happy for her push to be held off until after stories are finished at Mania. I'm thinking Bayley could beat Charlotte with Sasha's help at the Rumble (so Sasha can re-contend), but that obviously doesn't sit well with either girl. Sasha tells Bayley she should be thanking her, because she couldn't beat Charlotte on her own, and Bayley tells Sasha she deserves to be here 800 times. In their rematch at Fastlane, Charlotte wins the belt back when Sasha throws in the towel for Bayley (still her "friend" at the time) and Charlotte becomes an 11-time champion or whatever she's at. WrestleMania is all the personal issues boiling to the surface.

Alexa Bliss is the SmackDown heel and defends it against Nikki. Simple.

Becky Lynch vs. Mickie James with James being an obsessed Becky fan. I'd actually be interested in seeing these girls open WrestleMania -- a spot that Vince sees as quite prestigious. The finish can see Mickie grabbing Lynch by the hair, licking as if going for her Trish-grab spot at Mania 22, but Becky counters into the Dis-Arm-Her and gets the submission win. Nikki can enter as Becky is making her way to the back and the two can trade looks as if to say "You will see us wrestle each other 90 times soon." So the two matches are kind of part of the same segment. And Nikki basically squashes the overconfident Bliss, who gets Speared and is done. She tries to blame the loss on La Luchadora but gets taken out by her too.
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Emmalina will probably debut after Mania.
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I am fine with that. I think she's going to be their new Eva Marie, except she can actually wrestle. I'm fine with these next couple of months being focused solely on WrestleMania and Mania being the culmination to the year of WWE. Emmalina would be a wonderful "RAW After Mania" debut.

But hell, open up her segments to both RAW and SmackDown and create some ambiguity as to where she is going and increase the scope of her wonder.
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Not sure if it has popped up in the vignettes, but she appears to have a theme floating around. It seems to fit the gimmick and has a beat similar to her dancing theme underneath it all (I'm not a musical guy, so I can't be sure if I am detecting this wrong). I've always been a sucker for gimmicks that tie a wrestler's history together.

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Some key changes have been made to what was the WrestleMania show, although what those changes are isn’t confirmed. Three of the key bouts remain Brock Lesnar vs. Bill Goldberg, Seth Rollins vs. HHH and Big Show vs. Shaquille O’Neal. Aside from a Raw women’s title match, of which there are at least two different possibilities, everything else is up for grabs. The only other non-regular confirmed as wrestling on the show is Undertaker. We’re told the Mania card should be finalized internally in about two weeks, as the booking of that show will determine the booking and direction of the Royal Rumble, which takes place on 1/29 in San Antonio at the Alamodome.
I would be surprised if they didn't do Kevin Owens/Chris Jericho
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If they don't do Owens vs. Jericho, I imagine that they will be RAW Tag Team Champions still doing their full shtick as best friends. When coming up with a match that is "big" enough for them, The New Day really seem like the best opponents, given that they are such heavy merchandise movers. I've posted that I'd love to see American Alpha vs. Owens & Jericho, but I just can't see it for whatever reason. Sheamus & Cesaro function as transitional champions to get the belts onto Owens & Jericho for the big WrestleMania tag between the top faces of the division and the hottest double-act they have. Sheamus & Cesaro probably don't split, but rather do a "Welp, shall we enter the Battle Royal and kick ass together and hope it's us at the end?" thing. Can't believe that Show vs. Shaq is a lock. Seems a perfect fit to head into the Battle Royal. Yeah, both were in it last year, but Shaq wasn't advertised.

I can see The Wyatt Family being over sooner rather than later, sadly, and that probably leaves Orton to face Bray with Harper in the Battle Royal, on the outside or in the inevitable Ladder Match for the IC Title. I thought about a Triple Threat, but Orton has been in so damn many at WrestleMania, and the three-way gimmick doesn't really add anything to the drama.

A RAW Women's Title match makes sense, and I can see the WWE being scared of not doing one after all this Women's Revolution talk, because it hearkens back to the days where the Divas Title was only defended at Mania once. That being said, I wonder if Charlotte vs. Nikki Bella in a Champion vs. Champion Match is the best way to go? It's kind of frustrating to your average fan to have two Women's Champions defending on the same show, because it's kind of got a "Well, who really is the best women's wrestler" problem, since you don't see them fight. I think Champion vs. Champion Matches are problematic, but I could see it. After all, Charlotte has pretty much burnt through everyone on the RAW side. Sasha, Becky & Bayley can team up to face Alexa, Nattie & Nia or something. Two women's matches, you spread out your "revolution" girls, get some new ones on the show, pay respect to a veteran, keep the Samoans happy and have two very different looking matches with different stakes.

There's a similar problem with the SmackDown Tag Titles, but I can see the WWE just not caring about those belts. American Alpha can retain in your stock Fatal 4-Way Tag Team Match at their first Mania on the Kickoff. The Usos would be logical opponents. Slater & Rhyno are probably broken up by then, but maybe. The Fashion Police can be in there. The last team may even be The Revival, who I can see being called up according to plans, but not getting the push that you'd hope because of their tweeting.
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I'm really hoping AJ Styles beats John Cena at the Royal Rumble. I think AJ needs the belt more than Cena does. It's gonna be awesome when Cena gets 16, but does it really have to be now?

I think AJ Styles needs to face either Undertaker, Brock Lesnar, or Goldberg at WrestleMania, and win. That makes AJ Styles, IMO. Right now he's on that Chris Jericho level of main eventer but can be easily beaten, maybe just above it. A win over Cena at the Rumble and then over 'Taker, Lesnar, or Goldberg at Mania would make him the most over guy in WWE.

I'm hopeful for this:

WWE Title Match- AJ Styles (C) vs. Royal Rumble winner Brock Lesnar

John Cena vs. Goldberg

The Undertaker vs. Roman Reigns

WWE Universal Title Match- Kevin Owens (C) vs. Chris Jericho

No DQ- Seth Rollins vs. Triple H

WWE Raw Women's Title Match- Charlotte (C) vs. Trish Stratus

WWE Intercontinetal Title Loser Leaves SmackDown! Ambrose Asylum Match- Dean Ambrose (C) vs. The Miz

Big Show vs. Shaq

WWE United States Title Ladder Match- Braun Strowman (C) vs. Big E vs. Kofi Kingston vs. Sheamus vs. Cesaro vs. Finn Balor vs. Rusev vs. Sami Zayn

Triple Threat Match- Bray Wyatt vs. Luke Harper vs. Randy Orton

WWE SmackDown! Women's Title Match- Becky Lynch (C) vs. Mickie James

Andre The Giant Memorial Battle Royal

WWE SmackDown! Tag Team Title Fatal 4-Way Match- American Alpha (C) vs. The Revival vs. The Usos vs. #DIY

#1 Contender For WWE Raw Women's Title Match- Bayley vs. Sasha Banks

WWE Cruiserweight Title Match- Gran Metalik (C) vs. Kota Ibushi
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Also note the wording "one of their main events".

There's no way THE main event is going to be as good. They aren't having AJ/Nakamura, AJ/Zayn, or whatever they come up with close out the show.
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Styles vs. Michaels, baby. Come on. You know that will live up to it.
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Also note the wording "one of their main events".

There's no way THE main event is going to be as good. They aren't having AJ/Nakamura, AJ/Zayn, or whatever they come up with close out the show.
That's why I have AJ vs. Brock as my personal choice for main event. AJ being the creative wrestling genius that he is and Brock being the beast that he is I have no doubt these guys would deliver a very unique classic.


I'd love AJ vs. HBK, but if HBK didn't come out of retirement to face Daniel Bryan, his student, I don't see why he'd come out of retirement to face AJ Styles.

Brock vs. Shinsuke Nakamura is something I'd be very interested in, but they're not gonna make Shinsuke a main event player in 3 months.
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I'm pipe-dreaming with Styles vs. Michaels, but it is within the realm of possibility. When HBK retired, it was actually before all this part-timer stuff started happening. That really kicked up in 2012 with The Rock and Brock Lesnar. And while HBK was probably happy being retired then, just two years after those classics with Taker, who is to say that his kids aren't just that bit older and said "We'd love to see you wrestle one more time, daddy." I mean, that's just speculation, but the difference between his son being 10 and 17 and daughter being 6 and 13 is pretty huge. And maybe he's just gotten itchy?

It would have been great for Shawn Michaels to come back against Daniel Bryan, but that was still only a few years after his retirement, and once you get to WrestleMania XXX it was basically injuries for Bryan. Maybe there'd have been more talk if Bryan had stayed healthy? And there's also that personal element to it. HBK and Bryan are both professionals and surely Bryan owes a lot to HBK, but they seem like very different people. Maybe they don't "get along" as well as we project onto them? Not in the sense that HBK would be dying to come out of retirement to work with him, anyway.

I dunno, there are a lot of variables that could all be in play here. The reason I'm hoping so hard for it is because AJ Styles, more than anyone since Bryan, feels like the perfect guy for it. He teased it with that Twitter post, and while Styles could have just been feeding the "Fantasy Warfare come to life" gimmick, it put vibes out there. I probably look into things too much when I read HBK denying that anyone has approached him about doing the match and I immediate think "That's bullshit -- I'm sure the only reason Vince doesn't call you every day and ask you to return is to respect your wishes not to be bugged literally every day."

Brock vs. Nakamura is something I do see happening at some point, but maybe not in the immediate future. I'm actually fine with Brock vs. Shane at Mania. Brock is good at kicking ass and Shane is good at getting his ass kicked. It's a perfect dynamic in many ways. Plus, if they're going to re-sign Brock (and Vince will try) then they're going to need to feed him. I'd rather see Shane take on that role than a younger talent who is going to be just another guy who lost to Brock Lesnar.
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I was gonna make a dream WrestleMania card but then I realized even an ideal card would be mostly shit. Taker vs Cena is big time. Outside of that, they've gotten to the point where it's hard to make WrestleMania card that's much bigger than a Fastlane card. They even proved last year that they can take the big fight feel out of a Brock fucking Lesnar WrestleMania match.
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I'm with Noid on the AJ Styles/HBK match although I think it should have happen ed at the Royal Rumble instead. If they want a match to come close to to the Wrestle Kingdom match it has to be one with Styles. Styles/Cena would be my choice as I think they ruined it by just giving Cena the title shot. I'd had Styles out there talking how he'd beat everyone on SD and was just going to take the Royal Rumble off only for HBK to come out and challenge him. They would have a killer match at the Rumble with Styles winning. Cena wins the Rumble and sets up Styles vs Cena for the WWE World Championship at Wrestle Mania. You have the best wrestler in the world coming off a win over a Hall of Famer and the most popular wrestler in the world going for #16.
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I'm with Noid on the AJ Styles/HBK match although I think it should have happen ed at the Royal Rumble instead. If they want a match to come close to to the Wrestle Kingdom match it has to be one with Styles. Styles/Cena would be my choice as I think they ruined it by just giving Cena the title shot. I'd had Styles out there talking how he'd beat everyone on SD and was just going to take the Royal Rumble off only for HBK to come out and challenge him. They would have a killer match at the Rumble with Styles winning. Cena wins the Rumble and sets up Styles vs Cena for the WWE World Championship at Wrestle Mania. You have the best wrestler in the world coming off a win over a Hall of Famer and the most popular wrestler in the world going for #16.
The only problem with Styles going from HBK to Cena is that you're going from an exciting dream match to a great match, but one that we've seen quite a few times. It's liking starting your porno with anal and then working back to cuddling.

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Intriguing. I'm not saying you're incorrect, but I'd love to see that match. I'd even be fine with it if Styles lost. It's hard to think of anything "special" for WrestleMania. I've come around on Cena vs. Taker. I still think that putting Taker over is a bit dumb and Cena doesn't actually get much from the win, other than confirmation that the last twelve years haven't been accidental, but I can understand why people would feel that it is something special. The hype videos would be magical, and possibly better than the actual match.
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I don't want to see Taker unless its a match with Sting. Don't care if the match would suck I just want it to happen. I have no intrest Taker vs anyone else. Especially Cena, I just don't see the appeal. Cena needs to be in a match with some one who can pull a great match out if him and Taker can't do that.
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I really, really don't want to see Taker vs. Sting, but I totally get you on the other points. I'd be fine if Taker decided to take it off and work later in the year instead. Give him some time to rest up from that surgery or whatever it was he had. Survivor Series XXX is in Houston this year. That being said, you know we are getting Taker. I'd actually be fine with that suggested Wyatt Family vs. Taker, Kane & Sting match. Share the workload between the older guys. If they still went with Styles vs. Michaels (in my dream world) they could also do Cena vs. Joe.

I think that's a lot less likely than Cena/Taker for the belt, but whatever.
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