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Old 01-08-2017, 02:37 PM   #321
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Sting and Taker doesn't have to be a good match although I think it would be better than most think. Them just meeting in the ring would make for a moment unlike any other on the show.
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Old 01-08-2017, 02:39 PM   #322
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Isn't Sting like almost paralyzed at this point?
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Old 01-08-2017, 02:40 PM   #323
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It's hard to feel the "magic" with Sting when his biggest moments in WWE have been losing to Triple H and getting his neck broken by Seth Rollins. He's also already gone into the Hall of Fame. I think we're pretty much done with Sting beyond video games and memories.
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Old 01-08-2017, 02:41 PM   #324
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I don't think so. He's been putting off having surgery in hopes of having the match I believe.
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That being said, I've never really gotten Taker vs. Sting as an attraction. Is it because they are both "dark" characters? Or is it because they are seen as "franchise guys?" Because the match itself has never really appealed to me. Sting seems more of a guy that matches up well with workers like Ric Flair that he can no sell against and shit. The franchise element is pretty much moot because it's happening in the WWE. It'll also bring out the asshole in Undertaker (remember 2001?) and Vince McMahon if they make it WWF vs. WCW again. Sting will woo and then be Tombstoned and that will be it, lol.
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Old 01-08-2017, 02:44 PM   #326
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Would rather see The Miz vs. Sting at this point. Seriously. Or a heel Dolph Ziggler who can pinball around for him and also no longer matters.
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Old 01-08-2017, 02:54 PM   #327
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That being said, I've never really gotten Taker vs. Sting as an attraction. Is it because they are both "dark" characters? Or is it because they are seen as "franchise guys?" Because the match itself has never really appealed to me. Sting seems more of a guy that matches up well with workers like Ric Flair that he can no sell against and shit. The franchise element is pretty much moot because it's happening in the WWE. It'll also bring out the asshole in Undertaker (remember 2001?) and Vince McMahon if they make it WWF vs. WCW again. Sting will woo and then be Tombstoned and that will be it, lol.
I'd be fine with that match. I just want to see them in the ring together. No other match involving either interest me.
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Would rather see The Miz vs. Sting at this point. Seriously. Or a heel Dolph Ziggler who can pinball around for him and also no longer matters.
Miz vs Sting? How do you even build for that. Some one that no longer matters is Taker. Miz is another guy that needs to work with some one who will pull a great mat have out of him. Miz vs Nakamura would be my choice for Mania but it won't happen.
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I kind of like the idea of only having the stars of the show on the main show and leave the "get everyone on the card" matches for the pre-show.

I'm hopeful that WWE will have the 3rd Lesnar-Goldberg match at Fast Lane. Have Lesnar enter at like 30 and have Goldberg be the iron man and have Lesnar get a cheap elimination on Goldberg. Then have Lesnar win the Rumble. The rematch can be for a shot at the main event at WrestleMania.

AJ Styles needs to stay champ and needs to solidify his spot. A main event match with Lesnar win or lose does that. I'd prefer he wins but that kind of leaves a "where do you go from here?" for Lesnar. I think Lesnar should go over Styles in the main event of Mania for the title after thinking about it.

Goldberg said he wants one more title run. After losing to Lesnar he's not done. He still wants one more title run. But one man has something to say about that. John Cena. He challenges him to a match at WrestleMania. I'd probably have Goldberg go over here, not sure if it would be as strongly as he did over Lesnar though.

I think you could have Roman Reigns get a cheap elimination on The Undertaker to set up their match at WrestleMania. 'Taker could get the fans even more on his side talking about how Reigns isn't right for the company and how it's up to Taker to stand up for his generation yada yada yada. If this is Taker's last match I'd have Reigns go over here. This makes Reigns a top guy no matter what anyone thinks if he wins.

Triple H vs. Seth Rollins will probably be on this show. I think Triple H needs to put Seth over here. I'm not sure if this would be as big of a victory as Reigns over Taker, but this certainly helps, I don't think a loss does anything for Rollins, and Triple H doesn't lose anything taking the L here.

Charlotte should defend the Raw Women's Title against Trish Stratus in a dream match and retain. Maybe even make it a squash to prove her dominance.

Kevin Owens should defend the Universal Title against Jericho. Either guy could go over here and I wouldn't be bothered.

I think dissension in The Wyatt Family needs to hit it's peak here as a Triple Threat will take place between Bray Wyatt, Randy Orton, & Luke Harper. I'd like it if Harper got a dominant win over these two to really put him over.

I think Dolph Ziggler should turn heel after losing so much and should challenge Shane McMahon to a match for holding him down. Dolph could go over after Shane does a bunch of crazy shit.

Hopefully Big Show faces Shaq in a classic 5 star battle.

Becky Lynch could defend her SmackDown! Women's Title against Nikki Bella, Mickie James, & Alexa Bliss. I really don't care who goes over here honestly.

I think Miz and Ambrose should keep their feud going until it culminates at WrestleMania where it culminates in some sort of gimmick match. Maybe and I quit match where the loser leaves smackdown or the loser's girlfriend leaves smackdown and winner becomes Intercontinental Champion.

I like the idea of a United States Title 8 Man Ladder Match opening the main show. I'm hopeful Braun Strowman can win the United States Title at some point in the near future and defend against Big E, Kofi Kingston, Cesaro, Sheamus, Rusev, Sami Zayn, & a Mystery entrant which would either be a returning Finn Balor or if he's not ready I'd put Shinsuke Nakamura in there. Either way I'd have the mystery entrant go over.

On the Pre-show I think you end it with a #1 Contender for Raw Women's Title Match between Sasha Banks and Bayley. Put Sasha over and start a fresh feud with Charlotte.

And with the Andre Battle Royal which I'd have Samoa Joe win.

SmackDown! Tag Team Title Match- with American Alpha vs. The Usos vs. DIY vs. The Revival. Put the Revival over here.

A Cruiserweight Title Match with Neville and Kota Ibushi should open the pre-show. Neville goes over since he's actually under contract.

This is what Mania should be like IMO
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Not a bad card. I wouldn't do things exactly that way, but I agree with the philosophy that the "jam everyone on" mentality needs to go.
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I'd be all for Styles vs HBK. With AJ going over.

We have to get to a point where the current guys are being put on an even keel with the part time guys, and presuming AJ is losing to Cena (who is part time himself) at Rumble, and they tie him (Cena) up with Taker (no real gain for either guy winning), and with Lesnar/Goldberg cancelling each other out, a HBK/Styles match mirrors the HHH/Rollins match on the Raw side.

After the years he's had, and as one of the few permanents fixtures on SDL he needs and deserves something special for MANIA.
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My WM Card the way they have been booking:

Main Events:

-Goldberg vs Lesnar
-Seth Rollins vs HHH
-Taker vs Cena (WWE Championship)

Undercard:
-AJ Styles vs Baron Corbin
-Kevin Owens vs Chris Jericho (Universal Title)
-Roman Reigns vs Braun Stroman (US Title)
-Miz vs Dean Ambrose (IC Title)
-Bayley vs Charlotte vs Nia Jax vs Sasha Banks (RAW Women's Title)
-Becky Lynch vs Nikki Bella vs Alexa Bliss vs Natalya (SD Women's Title)
-New Day vs The Clubs vs Ceasaro/Sheamus vs Cass/Enzo ( RAW TT Ttitles)
-American Alpha vs Wyatts (SD Tag Team Titles)
-Andre The Giant Memorial Battle Royal-Debuting Samoa Joe wins
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And please hopefully no Big Show vs Shaq (WWE Please Read This)..Do not take quality PPV time for a guy that is winding down his career to overpay some celebrity. Leave the time for showcasing the talent that is and will be carrying your company for the next 2-5 years or more.
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Only problem I have with a Styles/Lesner match is Lesnar usually just does the bare minimum during matches. Like I thought Lesnar/Ambrose would have been a lot better than it was.
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I think that's just more Ambrose not being outspoken and Brock being Brock. I think AJ and others will be vocal and Brock would be more than willing to go all out. I could always be wrong though.
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It's a match I'd like to see as well and I'd hope Brock would give his all. Nakamura is another I'd like to see with Brock as they have history in Japan and I think he's win someone Brock would respect. I agree with you as I don't think Brock took Ambrose seriously and thought he should have been in a higher profile match.
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Last years card had 12 matches; 3 on the pre-show, 9 on the main card (albeit one was that thing with The Rock). There are now 9 championships in WWE, all of which could do with being defended, plus a likely match of Lesnar vs Goldberg and the Battle Royal so that'd take up 11 spots unless you do a champion(s) vs. champion(s) showcase match.

Probably going to borrow some ideas from the thread, a mix of what's possible/probable and what I wouldn't mind seeing, some I'll flesh out more that others.

I really dig the idea of AJ Styles vs. HBK as a feature match on SDL side of things, as the match to rival the Wrestle Kingdom 11 main event.

HBK will be at Raw this week (along with Taker) and it'd follow on quite nicely from what AJ has going on with Cena if, the following night, he were to invoke the names of Taker (another part timer coming to hog the limelight, who's on SDL one week, Raw a few weeks later) and Shawn Michaels (this is the one that really gets AJ because HBK is already retired). AJ cuts a scathing promo on Cena, Taker, and Michaels.

Also on this show Bryan comes out to promo to the crowd about how SDL is the land of opportunity, having crowned 8 new champions since the brand split, and in order to increase the opportunities offered to all SDL superstars he is scrapping the automatic rematch for dethroned champions; so when Styles defends against Cena it's the last time unless the loser qualifies to compete for the title again.

At the Rumble in San Antonio HBK and family are invited guests and given front row seats. AJ wrestles Cena for the WWE Championship and at some point AJ ends up on the floor in front of Michaels. He gets to his feet to find Shawn smiling in his face, AJ shoves or slaps HBK in front of his wife and kids which leads to a bit of a pull apart between the two. You can either have Styles return to the ring distracted and have Cena go over, or be a bit more overt and have HBK hit SCM leading to the AA and win for Cena. This leaves you with Cena as WWE Champion, and Styles out of immediate contention.

Cena gets his 16th reign to tie the record but under less than admirable circumstances. It's the first time in 2 years he's been at the top but he's still not sure if he could have done it without the inadvertent help of HBK. This is the impetus for Cena challenging Taker to a match at Mania; to prove he can beat the very best on their best stage at the biggest night of the year. You can even do a match between Styles and Taker for #1 Contendership to give SDL a ratings bump in lieu of no PPV between Rumble and Mania if you like.

Ultimately you've a few routes and outcomes with this; if this is Taker's last match you could have him beat an increasingly desperate Cena for the belt, only to pose at the end of the show and disappear into the night leaving the belt and his hat/gloves/boots? in the ring. Cena becoming desperate during the match can lead to him taking some time off if that's the plan to reflect on what he was willing to do to prove he could still hang only to return to try to win 17 and set a new record in a more valiant way. #redemption

Or, if Taker wants to go out on his back you could do the the long sought after Cena heel turn. Or, you know, CENAWINSLOL.

Coming back to the rule about no automatic rematches, this happens next week prior to Miz getting a rematch for the Intercontinetal Championship. He cites this as further proof that Daniel Bryan is vicitimising him, he says he's making an official complaint to the "Board of Directors" and that he intends to go to Raw, but as long as he's on SDL he's going to make Bryan's life hell. He disrupts SDL/Talking Smack regularly, he continues the animosity with Renee Young, he's basically out to get anything SDL brand related.

At some point you have Miz disrupt a match by taking out both guys (maybe an "Opportunity Knocks" match pitting two new guys/NXT guys against each other for a SDL contract, or an IC #1 Contenders match). He rants and raves about wanting his opportunity at the title, or the opportunity to go to Raw, and he wants an answer from the BOD.

The BOD eventually decide that Miz should be given an opportunity to get back into contention for the belt he lost. Ultimately Miz wins the IC Title back but he continues to make Bryan's life as GM a misery. Eventually Shane O'Mac makes his return, he says he'd love to book a match pitting Miz against Bryan but unfortunately Bryan isn't cleared to wrestle. But there's a man that is, a man that bleeds SDL blue, a man that wouldn't be much of a Commissioner if he didn't stand up for his own GM. Shane McMahon vs The Miz with the IC Title on the line is booked for Mania with the added stips that if Miz retains he is free to go to Raw with the belt.

As for the Women's and Tag Titles, it's important that these belts get a little shine as they're so new and this will be the first time they're defended at WrestleMania. I'd keep it quite simple with the women; who are my top 2 priorities going forwards. That's likely going to be Becky Lynch or Alexa Bliss defending against Nikki Bella with Nikki cementing her feel good story with the win.

With the tags, I don't think there's much of an obvious match to go to with the lack of depth/over teams on SDL. Best from an in-ring would likely be Alpha defending against The Usos, or a team of Orton and Harper with Bray having helped them work together. Or this is where you do the Champions vs. Champions deal and have American Alpha face Sheasaro in what could be a bit of a barn stormer. This option gets the tag champs in a featured match but frees up another non-title focused slot on the card.

You could do Orton vs. Wyatt (vs. Harper) here. Those two guys probably deserve something outside of the ATGBR.

SmackDown Live portion

WWE CHAMPIONSHIP
John Cena (c) vs. The Undertaker

GRUDGE MATCH
AJ Styles vs. Shawn Michaels

INTERCONTINETAL CHAMPIONSHIP (if Miz wins he takes the belt to Raw)
The Miz (c) (w/ Maryse) vs. Shane McMahon

SMACKDOWN WOMENS' CHAMPIONSHIP
Becky Lynch (c) vs. Nikki Bella

TRIPLE THREAT MATCH
Randy Orton vs. Bray Wyatt vs. Luke Harper

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I think that's just more Ambrose not being outspoken and Brock being Brock. I think AJ and others will be vocal and Brock would be more than willing to go all out. I could always be wrong though.
Plus Brock won't be competing in a UFC match for a while at least...
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I think that's just more Ambrose not being outspoken and Brock being Brock. I think AJ and others will be vocal and Brock would be more than willing to go all out. I could always be wrong though.
Yeah he was pretty lame on his Podcast with Stone Cold. Didn't want to say anything.
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I would love to see HBK wrestle again, but I just don't see it. I think he will be at the Rumble in some type of host/enforcer role. I could see that leading to a non wrestling role at Mania. For example he corners someone. Just to throw an idea out there, maybe Dolph Ziggler cuts a promo on HBK prior to the Rumble talking about part timers taking up spots. At the Rumble HBK could call him an HBK wannabe. Ziggler lays a beating on him and stretchers him out in his hometown. AJ acts as the surrogate for HBK, and HBK gets involved at Mania to help AJ win. You could also run a similar angle with Baron Corbin.

Speaking of, I think he's going to have a high profile match at Mania. He's my dark horse to win The Rumble and go on to face Cena. If you notice, Cena's new gimmick appears to be that of the vet who feels like he's being pushed aside, but isn't going to let that happen. As much as it seems like Taker vs Cena makes sense, I don't really see how it fits into Cena's current storyline. Not to say WWE can't make it work, they clearly can, I'm just not convinced it's the direction. Booking wise I think Corbin's next big program has to be for either the IC title or the WWE title. Ambrose vs Corbin for the IC is a possibility, but so is Corbin vs Cena for the big title. I'll be interested to see what happens this week on SDL between Cena and Corbin to see if it's a one off or something more long term.

I can also see Miz and Ziggler creating an alliance of bitter guys who feel they are better than everyone else. Them vs Alpha would be a fun match.
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That being said, I've never really gotten Taker vs. Sting as an attraction. Is it because they are both "dark" characters? Or is it because they are seen as "franchise guys?" Because the match itself has never really appealed to me. Sting seems more of a guy that matches up well with workers like Ric Flair that he can no sell against and shit. The franchise element is pretty much moot because it's happening in the WWE. It'll also bring out the asshole in Undertaker (remember 2001?) and Vince McMahon if they make it WWF vs. WCW again. Sting will woo and then be Tombstoned and that will be it, lol.
Jacket vs Jacket match who ever loses much never wear a trench coat again.
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I would rather see Cena/Reigns than Cena/Taker but I do want both...

If they go with Cena/Reigns I hope AJ gets Taker. If they go Cena/Taker I hope AJ gets something special. Maybe Joe, if they is actually going to happen.
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If they go with Cena/Reigns I hope AJ gets Taker. If they go Cena/Taker I hope AJ gets something special. Maybe Joe, if they is actually going to happen.
My thinking is Cena should be the one to retire Taker. HBK retired Flair, Taker retired HBK, you need a big name to retire Taker. Cena fits the bill.

If Taker still has a few more Last Rides in him then Cena v Taker isn't needed THIS year.
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My thinking is Cena should be the one to retire Taker. HBK retired Flair, Taker retired HBK, you need a big name to retire Taker. Cena fits the bill.

If Taker still has a few more Last Rides in him then Cena v Taker isn't needed THIS year.
Yeah I agree, kinda hinges on how much Taker has left in the tank. Roman and Cena must happen as well, but not necessarily before Cena/Taker.
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Let me have a crack at Raw's half of the show.

THE BEAST VS. THE BERG
There's every chance we get this despite all of the the pairings available so let's do you it. Probably feels the biggest match on the red side.

UNIVERSAL CHAMPIONSHIP
Roman Reigns (c) vs. Braun Strowman
Again a much rumoured match. Whether I like it or not this feels like a bigger deal than Jericho's/Rollins. Give Braun the Rumble win if you want to rocket him into position for this. Roman wins the belt from Owens at Rumble, retains at Fastlane. I can see fans getting behind Braun to the point where a Mania crowd will likely choose him over Reigns, so maybe we attempt a double turn here. The Usos help out their cousin to retain here and set The Bloodline up as an entitled heel group who haven't been given the respect they deserve by the fans.

NO DQ MATCH
Seth Rollins vs. HHH

Rollins goes over.

UNITED STATES CHAMPIONSHIP
Chris Jericho (c) vs. Kevin Owens

Jericho wins the US Title (maybe tonight?) and Owens' losing the UC pushes him over the edge and sets up these 2 best friends battling over the US belt.

RAW WOMENS' CHAMPIONSHIP FATAL FOURWAY MATCH
Charlotte Flair vs. Sasha Banks vs. Bayley (vs. Becky Lynch)

If you do Bliss/Bella on the SDL side maybe you work out a deal to bring Becky Lynch across to do the full Four Horsewomen match. This follows on from last years a Triple a Threat and gets 6 of your top priorities on to the show.

SIX MAN TAG TEAM MATCH
Shaq & The New Day vs. Big Show & The Club

Well it looks like they've started the build to the Shaq vs. Show match so lets at least get New Day in the mix that sets them apart from the Battle Royal.

CRUISERWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP LADDER MATCH
Neville (c) vs. The Brian Kendrick vs. TJ Perkins vs. Rich Swann vs. Jack Gallagher vs. Noam Dar vs. Cedric Alexander vs. Gran Metalik

Do a bunch of qualifiers on 205 leading to this. Let them go.

ANDRE THE GIANT MEMORIAL BATTLE ROYAL
I count 34 non-cruiser/not injured guys without involvement in a programme. Lets cut one and go with 33 participants to match the number on the Mania. Top picks include Baron Corbin trying for back-to-back wins, Dean Ambrose, Dolph Ziggler, Rusev, Sami Zayn, Kane, Big Cass, and James Ellsworth. Maybe they throw a bonus title shot in for the winner to add a little sizzle for those guys that are realistically above this match.
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Neville vs Ibushi is currently rumored to be another match planned for Mania according to a recent episode of the Observer Radio show.

Unlike with Sabre Jr, WWE doesn't hold a grudge against Ibushi for refusing to sign a deal after the CWC and Triple H is rumored to be the one pushing the hardest to get Ibushi for Mania.
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That's 14 matches total. You'll have to bin some of the shite skits/music performances/filler.
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I like the idea of having the Cruiserweights in the ladder match. Neville vs Ibushi would be fine though.
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Neville vs Ibushi is currently rumored to be another match planned for Mania according to a recent episode of the Observer Radio show.

Unlike with Sabre Jr, WWE doesn't hold a grudge against Ibushi for refusing to sign a deal after the CWC and Triple H is rumored to be the one pushing the hardest to get Ibushi for Mania.
Yessssssss!

It makes sense. Ibushi has edged himself into being a star in the company's eyes.

Pure speculation: ZSJ got his fair amount of criticism from certain officials in WWE, allegedly, and after watching him a bit it was easy to see why. Dude still has a long way to go. He probably should have been grateful for a contract, to some degree. I mean, he's a different case to Ibushi.

Also, with Vince taking an interest in 205 Live and his stubbornness to get it over, Ibushi is clearly the star you run with. Neville is clearly the guy destined to be the champion. That is your "big match" in the division.
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I like the idea of having the Cruiserweights in the ladder match. Neville vs Ibushi would be fine though.
Cruiserweights were never really associated with Ladder Matches. I mean, it's fine if you want to see it, but traditionally Ladder Matches, even clusterfucks, have had more of a variety of contenders in them. You usually get bigger guys as bases, spotty guys for the stunts, experienced workers to tie things together, etc.

If there's a Ladder Match, I imagine it will be for one of the secondary titles. Ambrose vs. Corbin is actually pretty likely for the IC Title, but you could just as easily throw Ambrose, Corbin, Crews, Kalisto, Kane, Ziggler and Miz together for a Ladder Match and have that variety and layers of experience and newer stars being exposed.
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I'm really feeling Jericho & Owens vs. The New Day for the RAW Tag Team Titles now. They're one of the best double-acts in the company (although heatless), so I don't know why you wouldn't put the Tag Titles on them, at least for a little while. I have a feeling they are still completely in on The New Day. They still move a lot of merchandise and they have that cereal out. We will get tired of them long before Vince does. I could see them being babyface challengers. It also completes the Jericho story, with him originally coming into the WWE to protest New Day.

It's easily the highest profile thing they can do for those belts at Mania.
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Cruiserweights were never really associated with Ladder Matches. I mean, it's fine if you want to see it, but traditionally Ladder Matches, even clusterfucks, have had more of a variety of contenders in them. You usually get bigger guys as bases, spotty guys for the stunts, experienced workers to tie things together, etc.

If there's a Ladder Match, I imagine it will be for one of the secondary titles. Ambrose vs. Corbin is actually pretty likely for the IC Title, but you could just as easily throw Ambrose, Corbin, Crews, Kalisto, Kane, Ziggler and Miz together for a Ladder Match and have that variety and layers of experience and newer stars being exposed.
Perhaps a potential Cruiserweight Open shades of Wrestlemania 20 or a new type of match created specific for the Cruiserweights.
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I'm really feeling Jericho & Owens vs. The New Day for the RAW Tag Team Titles now. They're one of the best double-acts in the company (although heatless), so I don't know why you wouldn't put the Tag Titles on them, at least for a little while. I have a feeling they are still completely in on The New Day. They still move a lot of merchandise and they have that cereal out. We will get tired of them long before Vince does. I could see them being babyface challengers. It also completes the Jericho story, with him originally coming into the WWE to protest New Day.

It's easily the highest profile thing they can do for those belts at Mania.
I like this idea. Owens and Jericho could do the split at Mania.
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Old 01-09-2017, 07:36 PM   #355
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I like the idea of having the Cruiserweights in the ladder match. Neville vs Ibushi would be fine though.
Cruisers tend to be weak. They look bad trying to pick up and set up a ladder. IC/US title or tag is the best for Ladder Matches.
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Cruisers tend to be weak. They look bad trying to pick up and set up a ladder. IC/US title or tag is the best for Ladder Matches.
Well yeah if you have a match full of Ellsworths but have you seen some of the Cruiserweights. Most are short jacked dudes who would have no problem with a ladder. Let's not forget that everyones favorite non cruiserweight that's actually a cruiserweight Kalisto made his name in a ladder match. Then again that is probably something WWE wants us to forget so you probably already forgot.
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Well yeah if you have a match full of Ellsworths but have you seen some of the Cruiserweights. Most are short jacked dudes who would have no problem with a ladder. Let's not forget that everyones favorite non cruiserweight that's actually a cruiserweight Kalisto made his name in a ladder match. Then again that is probably something WWE wants us to forget so you probably already forgot.
Kalisto was in there with other big guys who could do the heavy lifting and let him do the jumpy stuff. Even though some of the cruisers are strong for small guys, they are still small guys and generally look silly trying to manipulate ladders.
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With the exception of Kevin Ownens every member in the IC ladder match last year at Mainia was under 225lbs. I don't see 20lbs being a big factor in lifting an aluminum ladder. Most that weight is just for the hight difference. I think the Cruiserweights would kill it in a ladder match but if they can get Kota Ibushi for a match with Neville that would be even more killer.
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