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Old 02-13-2017, 12:58 AM   #601
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We are losing sight of the fact that the events which unfolded this evening set us up for the best WM main event since 26.
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Missed everything after mid Orton vs Harper, anything really interesting happen?
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Not really excited about BOrton fihting for the title at wrestlemania but Bray vs Orton is interesting. Do we see a return of Erik Rowen?
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Finished watching everything I missed.

Orton-Harper was really good overall. at Harper selling the RKO like a Stunner.

WWE picked a really lazy way to start the Miz/Maryse vs Cena/Nikki feud if the powder incident turns out to be the actual start. Then again every Nikki feud since she returned has either been pretty dumb or started off with something dumb.

Naomi-Bliss was decent. Feels like a mistake for Bliss to lose the belt now and not at Mania but makes sense why they did it because Smackdown's face side is too thin.

The padding for the new Chamber looks ridiculous but the WWE logo on the top is pretty cool. WWE should pull a WCW and have their logo be on the mat itself since the camera visual from the top looked great.

Interesting choice of Styles-Cena starting off the Chamber match. The Tower-of-Doom like spot was amazing. Corbin looked way more vicious than Ziggler when it came to post-match/elimination attacks this ppv. Styles-Bray being the final two was nice and so was the finish.

Chamber match was really great overall. Pretty dumb Cena's historic 16th title reign was just a quick toss-away reign but for Bray as new champ.
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Does someone have a gif of JBL falling?
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How part time is C3na going to be in the future? Would love for his 17th title run to be like 6 months long.
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How part time is C3na going to be in the future? Would love for his 17th title run to be like 6 months long.
Agreed. I think they could hold it off for a long time perhaps. I'm not sure if he is leaving after Mania for a project or anything, but perhaps a long term build up to a match with Reigns next year on Raw for Mania.
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How part time is C3na going to be in the future? Would love for his 17th title run to be like 6 months long.
No longer works house shows except on occasion and might get lucky he stays around on tv for a few months at a time because of how busy he is with non-WWE projects. He's bolting some time after Mania for another project and has more planned for this year.

Think the sheets stated a big reason why the WWE gave him the record tying reign now instead of later was due to them no longer able to rely on him for long stretches of time. They wanted him to tie the record as a "thank you" gift but never had any real plans for the reign.
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JBL keeps falling due to lack of beating people up, I wouldn't mind one last run for the Wrestling God.
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Itd be funnier if The Wyatt Family Duo Exploded over luke Harper instead of the WWE title.
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My assumption is that next year Cena will end up winning the Rumble and getting #17 at WM34.
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My assumption is that next year Cena will end up winning the Rumble and getting #17 at WM34.
Not the plan as of today
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• I actually watched the Pre-Show for two reasons:

1) I didn't watch the Royal Rumble Pre-Show and didn't know that the Tag Team Championship match was part of it, so I missed the titles change hands.

2) Curt Hawkins had a match, even though 80% of me knew he would lose.

• Becky Lynch/Mickie James was what it was anyway. I'm pretty sure this isn't the end of this and this will probably go on to WrestleMania, but the Pre-Show as the following women all need something to do at WrestleMania. We'll probably see Mickie James & Alexa Bliss vs Becky Lynch and a returning Tamina, as she's the only other women on the SmackDown women's roster that isn't a heel or a face but still has an opportunity and time to establish a side for herself for WrestleMania.

• I get the feeling that Crews will be gone for a while to sell the injury, only to come back less smiley and more serious, which would be alright I guess. His current generic smiley "I'm a good guy because I'm smiling" gimmick was just bad.

• The Tag Team Turmoil match was fun. I liked it. A tiny bit of me wanted and thought that The Ascension was actually going to win. It did make them look a bit bad though.

• Double countout with Natalya and Nikki. Well, it's quite clear that this will be going to WrestleMania. If so, then I can see it being Nikki that wins and it being her last match.

However, a part of me thinks Maryse will get involved somehow after what happened backstage, but if Natalya/Nikki doesn't happen at WrestleMania, then I can see Cena/Nikki vs Miz/Maryse happening at WrestleMania.

• The Harper/Orton match was really good. I think seeing an image change for Harper happen now that's he's a face would be cool, with maybe shaving his beard short and cutting his hair short or even going bald seeing as most of his hair is already gone on the top, but at the same time, I really think he has a really unique image, especially for a face so I dunno.

• I'm surprised that Alexa lost, if I'm honest. I was expecting Naomi to become Women's Champion eventually, but not at her first attempt and at the expence of Alexa Bliss. I also hope Bliss is alright as Naomi seemed to land really awkwardly on Bliss' hip when she hit the Split-legged Moonsault to win. I think Bliss was in some pain afterwards as she looked to be in pain (but that could have been just good selling) but it also looks liked she called the ref over after the three count.

Seeing Carmella get interviewed after every women's match kind of fills me with dread that she could be next in like for the title. If so, then I can see her winning the title from Naomi at WrestleMania.

• The Elimination Chamber has been modernised and made safer too, which is cool I guess. I'm not too keen on the steel grating floor being replaced with mats though but I'm all for the wrestlers working in a safe environment. That old steel grating floor most likely fucked up a lot of wrestlers unnecessarily.

The new chamber is much taller too and the width is smaller. I had a feeling the shape would be changed but I wasn't really convinced at first, but after see a match take place in the new chamber, I can say now that I'm a fan of the new design.

The match itself though was good. I was really wanting The Miz to win as the man has been fantastic lately and I really think he deserves another run with the WWE Championship. I really liked his first run and I think a second run would be just as good.

I was so happy that Corbin was eliminated first, but my joy quickly changed to sadness as I realised that he'd most likely be facing Ambrose at WrestleMania and for the Intercontinental Championship, which with Triple H & Co. having such a hard-on for the man, would mostly likely end with Corbin winning the title.

Cena being eliminated really surprised me. I expected him to retain but when it was down to Styles and Wyatt, I just knew that Wyatt would win by reversing AJ's Phenomenal Forearm into Sister Abigail.

I really don't know how I feel about Wyatt being WWE Champion. For example, what was the point of Orton turning heel and joining The Wyatt Family three months ago if he's just going to turn face again in the run up to WrestleMania?

Was that the only reason Orton joined The Wyatt Family? To give us a reason to care about the WrestleMania main event? Orton's sudden (and random) joining of The Wyatt Family was really weird and it made no sense, especially after it was made clear that Orton wasn't going to turn on Bray or any other shenanigans, but if all that was done just to give the WrestleMania main event more of a backstory then it's just stupid.

I can't help but feel that the whole Orton/Wyatt storyline that goes back to August was just a complete and utter waste of time.

Maybe I wouldn't feel all "conflicted" and "confused" and so on about it all if Orton had a legitimate reason for joining The Wyatt Family, such as being brainwashed or whatever, but no, we just got Orton randomly joining after months of them beating each other up and tormenting one another, with Orton's reason being the piss-poor reason of "if you can't beat them, join them".

Meh, maybe over the next few weeks Orton will say it was all a plan to destroy the Wyatt Family from within or whatever. There's still time for all this to make sense.

Overall though, it was a good PPV but it did have it's questionable decisions which is unusual for SmackDown.

Still the A-Show though.
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Overall, I thought this was a really amazing production by the WWE team. Man, are these guys batting 100 lately?

* The women opening? Holy shit. Nothing says "we trust you" like being given the opening slot. The ladies looked great, but I wish they would cover up more. Mickie James could wrestle full-time in the La Luchadora suit. I liked that Becky only won with a roll-up, because it means we have more to tell in this story. You don't want to blow off your stories in this modern era of wrestling where you've got PPVs all the time, because more content is always better. A brilliant move getting away from traditional PPV to create more episodic content using PPVs.

* Brilliant storytelling in the Dolph vs. Kalisto/Crews Handicap Match. If you were thinking "Man, how do they tell the story of two babyfaces fighting one heel?", the egg is on your face, you stupid fucking cunt. Kalisto is so sympathetic getting tossed around like a loser, and Apollo Crews wiped that smile off his face. Brilliant stuff. The match was good too, and the ending made sense and was different. Different is always refreshing. It's just a shame that the crowd was racist and cheered Crews getting his ankle shattered. They should have their top white babyface express concern for him so that the people catch on and get that they are supposed to like Crews.

* The Tag Team Turmoil was brilliant booking again. Heath Slater & Rhyno might be the greatest odd couple team since Booker T & Goldust. That would actually be a dream feud and they could technically do it for WrestleMania. Breezango looked great here for a pair of jobbers. They really put these guys over by having them beat the two teams and being exhausted for the heels. It then made sense for the heels to lose to the fresh babyfaces. The attack on them made it believable that The Ascension could walk out with the belts, which was nail-biting drama. The crowd was so shocked that they couldn't even boo the heels or cheer for Alpha at that point. Brilliant stuff.

* I see a lot of people criticize Nikki Bella in the ring, but you know what? It really doesn't matter. She has CHARISMA! Did you hear how crazy those girls in attendance went for her? They worship her and the Bella brand. You need to help grow that by putting her in the ring with veteran talent like Natalya. Nikki is a legend that deserves to go into the Hall of Fame for all that she's done. Those reality television deals might get scoffed at, but they are keeping the WWE afloat while they expand their Network overseas. She is integral to the WWE. I can't remember the match, but I am sure it was brilliant stuff.

* Orton vs. Harper went on a bit long. I'm disappointed that they didn't kick out of each other's finishers more. If people are going to take Harper seriously, they need to have him kick out of 4 or 5 RKO's. His facial expressions are a bit ridiculous and take you out of the match a bit. Orton held this together as the veteran talent he is, and JBL went into overdrive telling people what a star Harper is going to be since Harper wasn't quite ready to convey that himself. But at 37 years of age there isn't much time for Harper. Maybe they should cut their losses?

* The Women's Title match felt like such a big deal. You deserve it indeed, Naomi. All those years of hard work in the Funkadactyls and teaming with Tamina. She's been a hidden gem for far too long, and she's got some of the best kicks and springboards this side of Rob Van Dam. She's got the charisma too, so I don't see why she can't be as big as RVD. Yeah, Bliss lost, which is a shame because she is the best women's wrestler in the world right now, but she will likely win the title back after Naomi triumphantly takes it into WrestleMania IN HER HOMETOWN and have many more reigns before the year is out. Everyone should relax and wait to see this become brilliant stuff. Naomi needs to watch her split-legged moonsault though. If she could just slow down while Alexa gets into position, that would be great.

* The Elimination Chamber was so much fucking fun. Can you remember a better Chamber? This may have been even better than Cena vs. Styles at the Royal Rumble. It had Cena vs. Styles at the beginning of the match. Honestly, I feel like this should have been given six stars. Super-smart move setting up Corbin vs. Ambrose. I think those two could have a wonderful WrestleMania encounter. Maybe Corbin can show of his motorcycle to Renee Young? I'm just shooting ideas out here. Brilliant stuff. The Miz was hilarious in this, and his kicks look almost as good as Daniel Bryan's. Bray Wyatt pinning John Cena and AJ Styles puts him over the Royal Rumble title match guys, and the guys on "that level" and I don't think even your most jaded WWE fan will be able to look back on his previous lack of credibility as anything to worry about going forward. He is the man now, but it's up to the youngster to make it work. So far so good. Let's see how it does against Randy Orton in the opening match of WrestleMania. A great low-pressure situation to trial Wyatt as a champion, and a great way to put over the rest of the card. Can you imagine the average fan? "Holy shit, the World Title is in the opening match? That means the rest of these matches are BIGGER than World Title matches?!?". Brilliant stuff.
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It was a really strong show
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Chamber match was good but Cena having a 2 week reign is dumb. Would have been better had Styles went in as champion.
Been saying that ever since the rumors of Cena winning at RR came up. Hell, it even works better if they're really going to do AJ vs Shane... AJ beats Cena again at RR, but then he gets put in the EC match, loses after a great showing, bitches to Shane that he's got it out for him and put him in a no win situation to get the belt off of him.

And save Cena's 16th for Summerslam or something. Maybe even over Styles finally by then.

Isn't that way more logical?
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Been saying that ever since the rumors of Cena winning at RR came up. Hell, it even works better if they're really going to do AJ vs Shane... AJ beats Cena again at RR, but then he gets put in the EC match, loses after a great showing, bitches to Shane that he's got it out for him and put him in a no win situation to get the belt off of him.

And save Cena's 16th for Summerslam or something. Maybe even over Styles finally by then.

Isn't that way more logical?
Royal Rumble was a really special moment. Even though the title reign was very short, it doesn't take one bit away from how awesome that match and that moment of Cena getting his 16th title in front of 50k + was.

While I agree that they could have gone down the road of Styles losing the title in the Chamber, they can still tell the same essential story of that was Styles only title rematch. Especially since Cena is getting a one on one with Bray on Tuesday. But if they did that, you lose the Cena moment. When you with the two out, I think it's clear the right decision was made.

Styles will be around for a while, he'll have more time in the spotlight. Cena on the other hand appears to be winding down somewhat. It's nice to put a cherry on what is a Mount Rushmore worthy career.
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