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Old 05-07-2016, 12:04 PM   #121
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"Make Darren straight again"

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Old 05-07-2016, 12:06 PM   #122
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Probably off on Sandow but: Mizdow was amazing and Sandow was awesome. That being said, it had a short shelf life. Once Mizdow became Sandow again he became less interesting and I think without the Mizdow gimmick he's a boring baby face.
Would have been easy enough to have him turn against the fans and become the savior of the masses again. "I did all that to prove how easily entertained you fools are" or some such nonsense. The guy is entertaining as fuck and was over. Take advantage of that, keep the momentum rolling and use him.
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Old 05-07-2016, 01:04 PM   #123
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Sandow is better as a reactionary character than a guy who gets himself over.
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Old 05-07-2016, 01:16 PM   #124
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Really wish when he was mizdow him and miz would have a fatal four way for the IC title.

Sandow would win when he and miz would both get their opponents int the figure 4 and sandows would tap out first
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Old 05-07-2016, 02:14 PM   #125
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Old 05-07-2016, 02:47 PM   #126
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Also I love how people get worked up over a bunch of talent that either were injury prone. Not that great or haven't been on TV in months being let go.
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Old 05-07-2016, 03:12 PM   #127
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yeah he works on wwe's legal team now. Not going anywhere
Probably already quietly switched from a contracted superstar to an employee. Not sure about that but that would mean he was released from that contract.
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Old 05-07-2016, 03:14 PM   #128
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Also I love how people get worked up over a bunch of talent that either were injury prone. Not that great or haven't been on TV in months being let go.
People only getting worked up about Sandow. Sandow was over and could have been something but he was de-pushed for no reason.
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Old 05-07-2016, 03:55 PM   #129
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Old 05-07-2016, 04:39 PM   #130
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Even though you're just ridiculous for not thinking Sandow was anything special, even YOU can agree that them squandering his overness was batshit crazy. I'm telling you, there's something weird going on with WWE's creative process outside of just being inept. Some of the things they do are just too bizarre.

That's right. I'm going all out conspiracy theory on this fucking company.
Sandow wasn't in Skull and Bones. Only members of Skull and Bones are allowed to get over.
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Old 05-07-2016, 05:03 PM   #131
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Probably already quietly switched from a contracted superstar to an employee. Not sure about that but that would mean he was released from that contract.

Still under contract to WWE though you fool. He works for WWE.
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Old 05-07-2016, 09:34 PM   #132
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Still under contract to WWE though you fool. He works for WWE.
I think he was referring to an on-air talent contract to an employee situation, where you're still working for the company, but your role is different. HHH gets paid as an on-air talent AND as an employee.
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Old 05-07-2016, 11:34 PM   #133
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Im only upset at Sandow here. When he first came in he was amazing and I loved his gimmick, but WWE never did anything with him. I think everyone pretty much covered the topic though.
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Old 05-08-2016, 12:07 AM   #134
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Was Chris Benoit ever officially released by the WWE?
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Old 05-08-2016, 01:01 AM   #135
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You know he does things other than wrestle on tv, right?
Again, others can do that. Scotty 2 fucking Hotty could come back and do anti-gay bullying campaigns. That one guy has a lock on charity in the WWE is a bit of a joke.
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Old 05-08-2016, 01:04 AM   #136
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Probably off on Sandow but: Mizdow was amazing and Sandow was awesome. That being said, it had a short shelf life. Once Mizdow became Sandow again he became less interesting and I think without the Mizdow gimmick he's a boring baby face.
You're usually on the money, but what did Sandow actually *do* once he split from The Miz? He actually cut a really good promo on the RAW After Mania last year, what with the crowd chanting "Thank you Sandow!" and Sandow responding with a genuine "You're welcome." Brilliant stuff. Then Curtis Axel came out and he went right into the copying bullshit again.

Why not *try* to get a Miz vs. Sandow feud going? They even had new music done for Sandow that I can't remember if they ever actually used. I don't think you can blame him for getting less interesting.
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Old 05-09-2016, 10:23 AM   #137
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Just randomly thought of how great a feud between "Savior of the masses" Sandow and a face version of Barrett's badass bareknuckle fighter could be. The dichotomy of the two personalities. The promos. My God. I'm not one for Noid posts but if you could see the feud I've built in my mind... I need to take out a loan and start an indy wrestling promotion. It may not make a penny and ultimately render me bankrupt but Goddammit I wanna see this come to life now.
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Old 05-09-2016, 07:25 PM   #138
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It could be a good feud, but Bennett himself is clever. I'd like to see Sandow built up as a babyface for a few months, then have Bennett come in as his "match."
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What's the bet TNA brings Damien Sandow into TNA as "Bernie Sandow?"
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Again, others can do that. Scotty 2 fucking Hotty could come back and do anti-gay bullying campaigns. That one guy has a lock on charity in the WWE is a bit of a joke.
But you said he hadn't done anything in six years. That's not true. So is it "he hasn't done anything in 6 years" or "Others can do what he does?"

And you feel like Scotty 2 Hotty, a heterosexual, would be the same as Darren Young, an open homosexual, in his effect and perspective in an anti bullying campaign?

If you do, thats fine. But I think its pretty evident Darren does well for the company outside of wrestling in the ring and has his place, especially in this era. But if you disagree, thats totally cool bud
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Again, others can do that. Scotty 2 fucking Hotty could come back and do anti-gay bullying campaigns. That one guy has a lock on charity in the WWE is a bit of a joke.
The one man who has a lock on charity would be Jeaaaaan Cena not Darren Young.
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But you said he hadn't done anything in six years. That's not true. So is it "he hasn't done anything in 6 years" or "Others can do what he does?"

And you feel like Scotty 2 Hotty, a heterosexual, would be the same as Darren Young, an open homosexual, in his effect and perspective in an anti bullying campaign?

If you do, thats fine. But I think its pretty evident Darren does well for the company outside of wrestling in the ring and has his place, especially in this era. But if you disagree, thats totally cool bud
I was speaking merely in terms of in-ring. Maybe he does supplementary stuff outside of it, but that is something I can imagine anyone doing. Does a gay Superstar need to do the anti-gay stuff? I'll be honest, I wasn't even aware Darren Young did much stuff. The guy can't string two sentences together for a promo, so the idea of him being a good spokesperson is weird. Maybe he is better without the pressure of the wrestling atmosphere?

It still seems silly to me that people get to keep or get jobs based on PR reasons. I understand, for example, hiring a great Hispanic wrestler because he's good at wrestling and will appeal to the Hispanic crowd; but Darren Young is not that good at wrestling. Hire a better black gay wrestler.

I did enjoy his Bob Backlund thing though. Maybe there's hope? It's very rare I am so down on a wrestler, but after six years of basically looking like a black John Cena but somehow being nothing, it feels like they could cut bait. Especially now.

Am I making sense? I just don't see the reason for keeping around guys because they are good at appearances ONLY. You have to have something relevant to the product.
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I saw Christian got released from his contract and thought "NOOOOO!", but then I realized it is his wrestling contract. He's still signed on for WWE Network stuff. But still, a free Christian Cage would actually be kind of awesome.

Really want to see them give him a color commentator tryout.
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You can add former WWE World Heavyweight Champion Christian to the list of WWE talents that have been released in the past week. His release has nothing to do with his agreement to do The Edge & Christian Show and is more of a technicality do to him no longer having an active performer’s contract. Christian received a concussion in March 2014 and WWE then decided to stop using him due to his history with concussions.
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The one man who has a lock on charity would be Jeaaaaan Cena not Darren Young.
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According to PWI, next wave of cuts is happening after the Extreme Rules ppv and rumored to include a potential big name from the Women's division.

WWE also rumored to be preparing a new wave of signings to be done as the main reason why the cuts are happening now.

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We've also been heard rumors of another surprising WWE release, a women's star and one who would be considered a top Superstar. It was noted that "stays of execution" are always possible for some talents who go through late negotiations but it sounds like officials already know who will be getting cut.
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Old 05-12-2016, 09:04 PM   #148
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Nattie? Alicia?
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Alicia, Rosa, Naomi, Tamina, Summer would be the most likely candidates. Personally, I'd can Eva Marie as an in-ring talent and re-sign her specifically for Total Divas if that's why they want to keep her. Seems to me that's the only good use for her.
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Nattie and Naomi are announced to be on the cast of next season's Total Divas, so they will be staying.

(Also safe is Paige)
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Tamina is one that should probably be cut based on talent levels and such. I'm sure she's a lovely person and what not, but she hasn't really improved and Nia Jax will be their new "big girl." I thought she would have gone earlier, but I can imagine them not wanting the bad publicity of "Snuka" being on their website and not wanting it to be possibly linked to the Jimmy trial stuff.

I've got a bad feeling about Emma too. I love her so much, but now that Dana Brooke is up, I could see them using Emma to get her over then dumping her.
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Alicia leaving would also make sense. She's been confirmed for the next season of Total Divas, but maybe there's a last minute change. Isn't Naomi back in it? There's their token black girl.
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I can still see Jack Swagger going too.
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I don't think Alicia has been confirmed for Total Divas, has she?

Wikipedia says she isn't.... and if I can't trust Wikipedia, who can I trust?
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It felt good the way they treated Paige on RAW. All the Women's segments were on point. Dana FUCKING Brooke has arrived
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She hasn't been around due to some family issues, maybe she asked to go? (if true)
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