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Old 06-17-2013, 10:29 PM   #201
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Old 06-17-2013, 10:30 PM   #202
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Seriously though I don't know at this point in time.
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Old 06-17-2013, 10:39 PM   #203
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Is it cheating to have Shannon come back to play Luthor?

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Old 06-18-2013, 12:43 AM   #205
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Old 06-18-2013, 03:49 PM   #206
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Actors should really start their Lex Luthor campaigns right about now. He's gonna be a key casting.

Any dream casting, guys?
I'd like to see Tom Hardy play this role even though he's Bane I think he could do a better job with this character.
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Old 06-18-2013, 03:51 PM   #207
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Him having played Bane shouldn't be a problem. Chris Evans was Johnny Storm and Captain America.
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Old 06-18-2013, 04:15 PM   #208
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Different continuity lines, though.
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Different continuity lines, though.
Same here, most likely.
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I thought this was really bad. Stuff on Krypton was surprisingly enjoyable but after that it felt boring and endless. It was humorless and poorly structured, too much exposition, no chemistry between Adams and Supe. It kind of shallowly picks at different themes like Superman's inner conflicts, his relationship with mankind... religion and Americanism are sorta thrown in there too I guess, none of it comes together to really mean anything though. Whole thing felt pointless.

The action scenes were just as stupid and boring as everything else too. People frenetically crashing into: each other, skyscrapers, the IHOP, Sears. Then there are some sorta tentacles and lights and maybe some scenes from the Avengers, all of it tension-less, most of it dumb as hell (Zod galloping up the building was brutal)

I liked Costner and Russell Crowe.
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Same here, most likely.
Maybe, but it's the same studio, and I still have a hunch that the tone of both of these movies is going to cause them to become one timeline/universe. Even if they change up who plays Bruce, it could still be on the same path.

Now, if they brought in, say, Jim Carrey to play Luthor (terrible example, but just stay with me) I'd say there would be less of a continuity issue. Plus it's from something so recent. There was a pretty long gap in between the F4 films and Cap.
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:57 PM   #212
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nobody had an issue with
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Old 06-18-2013, 11:03 PM   #213
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I would have had a bigger issue with Clark letting him incinerate a family. Zod had to be put down, he was beyond reason. And none of that "I don't have to save you" rationale, either. It was, at that moment, the best option. Any one of us would have done the same (and probably wouldn't have took as long to make that decision).
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Old 06-18-2013, 11:05 PM   #214
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And I'm not saying that as one of those asswipes who think Superman should have killed Luthor and whoever long ago and he's too 'good'. I totally get his Code, and how he operates, but I also fully agree with the point made in that scene of that movie of that universe.

And there's something compelling about the idea that when he meets Bruce (a recast or Bale), his hands would technically be dirtier than the Batman's.
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Old 06-18-2013, 11:13 PM   #215
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nobody had an issue with
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I didn't have an issue with the act of it, just the way it was done.

I was just like...

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DUDE. JUST FLY HIM OUT OF THERE AT SUPER SPEED. I would have liked to see Zod even more out of control. To the point where you really feel he had no other choice.

The actual act of killing Zod has precedent in the comics. I hope movie Supes goes crazy, develops multiple personality disorder, and exiles himself into space like he did in the comics after the deed.

Ok. Maybe not the multiple personality deal. I would be up for seeing him do some "soul searching" in space, leading perhaps to either a confrontation with Mongul and Warworld or Brainiac and Brainiac's Head Ship.
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Old 06-18-2013, 11:18 PM   #216
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I would have had a bigger issue with Clark letting him incinerate a family. Zod had to be put down, he was beyond reason. And none of that "I don't have to save you" rationale, either. It was, at that moment, the best option. Any one of us would have done the same (and probably wouldn't have took as long to make that decision).
clark shows zero concern or consideration for collateral damage throughout the entire film. for all we know, he does "let" zod kill a bunch of people, because he's too busy throwing punches and flying into stuff to worry about moving the fight out of a heavily populated area, for example. like mark waid said - he only ever seemed to give a shit about "people" in the most abstract sense possible. even routh used his powers to stop debris from killing innocent bystanders. cavill's superman seemed genuinely unconcerned about it. dunno.


although i do actually agree with you about the idea that it could be compelling to have a superman with dirtier hands than batman.


and you make a valid point in terms of "well, what else was he gonna do?" and i do acknowledge that they take pains to show that he at least regrets that that was his available course of action -- but i'd highly recommend having a look at waid's review, if only because it's incredibly poignant coming from someone who has helped shape contemporary superman mythology. to hear (or see) that man say that that moment "broke his heart"... you feel for him. you really do.
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Ok. Maybe not the multiple personality deal. I would be up for seeing him do some "soul searching" in space, leading perhaps to either a confrontation with Mongul and Warworld or Brainiac and Brainiac's Head Ship.[/spoiler]


this is the best argument i have seen for the potential of the fallout from the deed itself. that actually would be a fucking brilliant way to get him into some action with a villain that isn't fucking lex luthor or a kryptonian.
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I'll read his review. Birthright, as far as I'm concerned, is THE Superman origin story.
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Am I crazy or is this the best SOUNDING Superman?

I mean, Henry Cavill didn't have a whole lot of monologues in the movie, most of it seemed like only 2 or 3 lines followed by an action scene. But there were moments where he actually got to say more than a few sentences at a time and I think he nailed it. A couple scenes that stand out are the conversations he has with the US Army general. His voice was very... Superman-ish. I dunno, it's hard to describe but I think he did a fantastic job of actually sounding like how Superman should sound.
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When he told people in Smallville to get inside because it would get dangerous, THAT was my 'yeah, he's Superman' moment.
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8/10 it was a good movie.
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Old 06-21-2013, 01:41 AM   #226
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Faora was fucking hot. In fact, she should come back and be Wonder Woman. I don't care who it confuses.
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:06 AM   #227
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:28 AM   #228
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I want to marry Faora.

That is all.
She almost stole the whole spotlight from Zod of the 2nd act considering she's the one taking all the ass kicking on the military and Superman to the floor...
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:36 PM   #229
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In regards to the whole "Superman doesn't care about the damage he's causing," keep in mind the guy he was fighting was just as strong, just as fast, is a better fighter, and was literally out to kill everyone. So if Supes peeled off from Zod in order to save the people in harm's way, Zod would have just taken the opportunity to slaughter thousands more. His only real option was to stay on the offense and keep Zod focused on the guy who could actually take the damage. It's likely the battle killed tens of thousands, and that's unthinkably tragic, but it's better than the millions that Zod would have killed if Superman was breaking off to save a few relative handfuls at a time instead of keeping the pressure on him.

Plus, it's his first time dealing with anyone even remotely as powerful as him. You can't expect him to fight like the decades-plus veteran that he is in the comics in his first time out.

Granted, the whole bit where he pauses in the middle of ground zero to have an awkward make-out with Lois was stupid and unnecessary.
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Old 06-22-2013, 11:07 AM   #230
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I'll put it in top 5 of superhero movies. Cavill has the look down , but I dunno if it was his acting or writing he just came off as kinda boring. Even when he was fighting Zod or anyone else his facial expressions were emotionless.

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Old 06-22-2013, 11:03 PM   #231
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Really loved this movie. Maybe almost as much as the Batman movies.
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Old 06-22-2013, 11:19 PM   #232
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Old 06-24-2013, 04:10 PM   #233
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Saw this movie the other night and I thought it was freaking great I'm not sure why so many critics were tough on it heck i'd say it's one of the best comic based movies I've seen recently. Really Liked the fact the first act focused more on the sci-fi aspect and you believed Kal-El was from another planet trying to live amongst humans. My only gripe is that some of the flashbacks seemed a litte bit rushed but understandable given the run time and I didn't feel the final showdown was that drawn out personally. Felt the casting for this was great for the most part although I still prefer Terence Stamp as Zod but like many have stated already the gal that played Faora-Ul was tottally badass compared to Ursa. Now that I've seen this I can't help but wonder if this should have been the duo of Snyder and Goyer had been chosen to do the Green Lantern movie how much better it could have turned out which tbw I still haven't seen due to the high consensus of it's craptacularness guess there's always hope for a reboot.
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Old 06-24-2013, 10:08 PM   #234
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Green Lantern is really bad. Believe everything you heard about it.
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Old 06-27-2013, 05:57 AM   #235
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Maybe it's because my expectations were so low, but I actually enjoyed Green Lantern. CGI suit still looks like shit when not in motion though.
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Old 06-27-2013, 01:09 PM   #236
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Also, just had this pointed out to me... at least him killing Zod in this movie is treated like a "hard decision".

In Superman II he just casually tosses Zod into a bottomless pit of doom while smiling. Lois then casually murders Ursa.
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:47 PM   #238
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Also, just had this pointed out to me... at least him killing Zod in this movie is treated like a "hard decision".

In Superman II he just casually tosses Zod into a bottomless pit of doom while smiling. Lois then casually murders Ursa.
I agree with this, but playing devils advacote...

You don't actually see Zod die... So he could have still lived. The death in Man of steel is pretty brutal, and he's clearly dead. In Superman II what Superman did to Zod was pretty smart, and generally a better moment then what happened in Man of steel.
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Old 06-28-2013, 10:10 AM   #239
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Just got back. Loved it. Great acting by everyone, incredible action scenes... exactly the kinda destruction, chaos and violence a Superman movie needed. Kinda wished to see more of Clark as a kid coz stuff like that is interesting to watch, but overall this was a great movie.
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...Exactly the kinda destruction, chaos and violence a Superman movie needed.
Really, though?
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