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Old 11-22-2016, 09:58 PM   #201
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at the shot of the kid in the crowd being shocked at what just happened.
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Old 11-22-2016, 09:58 PM   #202
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Sooooo...... Ellsworth pretty much won this cleanly
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Old 11-22-2016, 09:59 PM   #203
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I like how he had to use his whole body weight to get the contract.
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Old 11-22-2016, 09:59 PM   #204
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I guess AJ would have won if not for Dean coming out, but then he was pretty ineffective, and Ellsworth did the rest by himself......
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Old 11-22-2016, 09:59 PM   #205
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Old 11-22-2016, 10:00 PM   #206
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Colin Delaney probably cries himself to sleep seeing this Ellsworth push.
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Sooooo...... Ellsworth pretty much won this cleanly
Essentially. AJ has been made to look like a fucking moron once again.
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Old 11-22-2016, 10:01 PM   #208
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I was ok with past Ellsworth victories over Styles because they were all obviously because of Ambrose, with Ellsworth pretty much being "dead"..... this time Ambrose was minimal and Ellsworth pretty much just plain beat him. Quickly, too.
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Old 11-22-2016, 10:04 PM   #209
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I don't think this makes AJ Styles look "weak" at all. He got stuck in the ropes... was a good excuse
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Old 11-22-2016, 10:04 PM   #210
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Good show overall, but I am completely over this Ellsworth shit.
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Yeah this was a bit much, also logically Dean should lose his title opportunity for interfering.
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Old 11-22-2016, 10:04 PM   #212
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Yep way to validate your champ WWE where is Cynick I want him to try to justify this and Pat Patterson's cream team to me.
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Old 11-22-2016, 10:06 PM   #213
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This is crazy. James Ellsworth is on the SD Live Roster with a contract. Is jbl the only one with a brain on this joke of a product?? I expect more from this show
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Old 11-22-2016, 10:06 PM   #214
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Styles could still destroy Ellsworth next week as a tune up to the Ambrose match at TLC though. Vicious enough that he gets taken off tv till the Rumble for the big pop.

Only problem is they've written Ambrose in a way that unless Styles viciously beats him up, he's always going to pop up interfering in Styles-Ellsworth matches.
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I doubt Ellsworth lasts much longer than the Royal Rumble, to be honest.
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Colin Delaney signed a 3 year deal after months on ECW, then got fired like 2 months later. Probably will be the same with Ellsworth.
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Styles could still destroy Ellsworth next week as a tune up to the Ambrose match at TLC though. Vicious enough that he gets taken off tv till the Rumble for the big pop.

Only problem is they've written Ambrose in a way that unless Styles viciously beats him up, he's always going to pop up interfering in Styles-Ellsworth matches.
Have Shane say "If you come out or distract AJ in any way you will lose your title shot."
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Colin Delaney signed a 3 year deal after months on ECW, then got fired like 2 months later. Probably will be the same with Ellsworth.
Only difference is Ellsworth is moving a lot more merch than Delaney probably ever did and I think Delaney had some attitude or issues backstage that led to his quick firing.

Unless Smackdown's Creative is legit toying with the idea of giving Ellsworth the WWE title, this should be his peak in terms of the storyline.

WWE really should have done the IC and Cruiser belt swap at Survivor Series since Smackdown's IC and WWE divisions are way too thin to support both. Styles-Ellsworth and Styles-Ambrose are being stretched out too long as a result.
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Ambrose put the Survivor Series match in jeopardy and directly defied a mandate from on high for nothing but completely selfish reasons. And he's a babyface? OK. That might work if the authority weren't two of the biggest faces in WWE history, but whatever. Not my call.
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Only difference is Ellsworth is moving a lot more merch than Delaney probably ever did and I think Delaney had some attitude or issues backstage that led to his quick firing.

Unless Smackdown's Creative is legit toying with the idea of giving Ellsworth the WWE title, this should be his peak in terms of the storyline.

WWE really should have done the IC and Cruiser belt swap at Survivor Series since Smackdown's IC and WWE divisions are way too thin to support both. Styles-Ellsworth and Styles-Ambrose are being stretched out too long as a result.
Not sure how anyone could think it would be a good idea to have the US and IC titles on the same show with split brands. They'd essentially be the very same thing. Also, leaving Smackdown with only the top title and the cruiserweight title would make the show look very odd, I feel. Not switching was the right call.
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There was a rumor about the WWE doing a possible title vs title feud next month with Reigns and Owens which would have been a perfect way to merge those two belts and have the IC belt being the mid-card belt for RAW.

Smackdown loses their mid-card belt but it helps them more in the end because of the smaller roster.
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There was a rumor about the WWE doing a possible title vs title feud next month with Reigns and Owens which would have been a perfect way to merge those two belts and have the IC belt being the mid-card belt for RAW.

Smackdown loses their mid-card belt but it helps them more in the end because of the smaller roster.
So you'd just want to do away with the US title completely?
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No way. Too much prestige.
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Ellsworth still has a lot of legs if AJ beats the piss out of him. He comes back during the RR and gets a fluke elimination on someone. This sets up a mini program with someone. Then he becomes Ambrose's manager/lackey for Mania.

Then he can go become tag team partners with Kane or some crap for awhile.
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So you'd just want to do away with the US title completely?
Yes since on paper, the IC belt would get a lot more focus and strength if it was the only real mid-card belt around.

WWE has already shown the idea of the US belt's prestige only maters if its Cena and Reigns with the belt. Maybe even Rusev only because he plays the perfect anti-American bad guy for it.

Once Reigns drops the belt, its probably going back to irrelevance after a short while. Either that or rehash Rusev's stuff with the belt for a third time if he takes it next.
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AJ still looking like a bitch. Hope Ellsworth gets into a car accident leaving the arena and looses both legs . So retarded.
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Old 11-22-2016, 10:55 PM   #229
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Shit like that is why nobody watches. Bunch of gas station attendant looking motherfuckers. Remember when wrestlers looked bad ass and people actually watched? Fun times. But nom nom nom workrate. Fucking brutal.
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Remember when Ryback had momentum and then started losing every ppv, but in "screwy finishes" and people said it would kill his momentum because he wasn't jobbing clean? How did that turn out for ya. Friggen joke.
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I've got a weird feeling that Alexa Bliss will win the SmackDown Women's Title at TLC. I know people here like her because she is hot, but that will be a sad day.
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I'm still ready for this brand split shit to end. You could make the Royal Rumble pretty fucking prestigious to be honest. Have the Royal Rumble to decide the #1 Contender for the True World Heavyweight Championship at WrestleMania and a series of unification matches:

* AJ Styles vs. Seth Rollins (Rollins wins the belt from Kevin Owens at Roadblock)
* Roman Reigns vs. The Miz
* Charlotte vs. Becky Lynch
* The New Day vs. Randy Orton & Bray Wyatt (they win the belts at TLC)

That's a pretty huge card and can allow you a must less convolutated and cluttered run heading into Mania, where you just know the rules of the brand extension are going to go out the window anyway.
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I am enjoying the brand split because Smackdown is amazing. I am willing to.sacrifice Raw for Smackdown .
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• Throughout the entire show, I found Ambrose to be genuinely annoying. I found myself just wishing he would fuck off.

• Intercontinental Title match was good and I'm actually happy to see the Miz/Ziggler stuff continue, and I feel it's right to end it at TLC. A ladder match sounds very promising and I'm really looking forward to it and I'm sure it'll be another fantastic match from both men.

What they've done for the title is amazing and I really hope that after the Miz/Ziggler stuff is finished, this momentum will carry on.

Also, things got a bit awkward when Corbin missed his cue for his interference. It just made Kalisto look really stupid. What the guys in the back see in Corbin just baffles me. He legitimately sucks. He's boring as all hell and I really really feel he needs to go back to NXT for some much needed work on everything about him.

• The Gauntlet/Turmoil match (whatever the hell you want to call it) was not bad. I've always enjoyed this match type and I would like to see more, but not too much as that would just ruin the novelty of it. (just look at Hell in a Cell)

I feel that calling Mojo a spazz doesn't really do him any favours, and I feel really bad for The Vaudevillains, but more so for Aiden English. I can't help but think that the team being jobbers just leads back to Simon Gotch being a complete prick backstage. (if the stories are true)

I wouldn't mind seeing English go solo though. I think that would be interesting.

It was surprising to see The Wyatts get in on the tag team action but with the bell not ringing at the end of the match, that means the match is still going, right? Anyway, part of me thinks The Wyatt's will win then go on to win the titles at TLC. I'm still not completely sold on Orton though. I still feel he'll turn on Bray, possibly during the title match at TLC.

• Even though I found Ambrose to be annoying from beginning to end, I did enjoy him as a Mountie (or possibly THE Mountie). I was just waiting for him to say the line, and what made it that bit more funnier was that you could see both Ambrose and Bryan try their best not to laugh just before Ambrose delivered the line.

• Alexa Bliss is fantastic and I can see her winning the title at TLC. Also, her completely destroying Otunga on commentary was hilarious.

• Kalisto grabbing a chair after the Kane/Corbin match is obvious we'll be seeing a Chairs Match at TLC, which is stupid. That match type has got to be one of the worst/stupidest match types ever.

Expect to see Corbin swinging a chair around next week.

• The main event was what it was. I think Ellsworth announcing online a few days ago that he had signed a contract made it obvious he was going to win the match.

I'm not really that bothered by Ellsworth sticking around. It's entertaining in its own way and hearing JBL come up with some of his insults can actually be pretty funny at times.

JBL saying that maybe Tony Chimel can donate one of his chins to Ellsworth actually got a good laugh out of me. I don't see this Ellsworth saga lasting that long though. I think it'll start to wind up around Royal Rumble time. I really can't see this lasting past WrestleMania.

• Anyway, SmackDown was good yet again, but I don't think it was as good as it could have been. SmackDown has been better but that doesn't mean I think this week sucked. Not at all.

I just really could have done with Ambrose being annoying.
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That would be a fantastic day.

I don't know about everyone else, but I like Alexa, not just because she's hot (and she is hot) but also that she's just generally really good.

She's developed so much since being drafted to SmackDown. The weeks since then she's just gotten better and better. I really can't think of a bad thing to say about her. She's good in the ring, on the mic and by watching this week's show, we've all seen that she's good on commentary and great at completely destroying people verbally.
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I am for Alexa winning the title because on raw Becky was booked as a jobber to the stars and she should not be holding the title.
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Although Alexa DID job to Naomi.
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I think Ellsworth is actually going to get the title shot at The Rumble. There was a reason they laid out the match the way they did. They made sure Ellsworth got in offence to win the match, not just Ambrose winning for him.

Styles will obviously beat Ellsworth, but they see more legs in him than just beating him randomly on TV. Of course, plans change.
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I'm still ready for this brand split shit to end. You could make the Royal Rumble pretty fucking prestigious to be honest. Have the Royal Rumble to decide the #1 Contender for the True World Heavyweight Championship at WrestleMania and a series of unification matches:

* AJ Styles vs. Seth Rollins (Rollins wins the belt from Kevin Owens at Roadblock)
* Roman Reigns vs. The Miz
* Charlotte vs. Becky Lynch
* The New Day vs. Randy Orton & Bray Wyatt (they win the belts at TLC)

That's a pretty huge card and can allow you a must less convolutated and cluttered run heading into Mania, where you just know the rules of the brand extension are going to go out the window anyway.
Makes no sense to end the brand split this early. Good card, but terribly short sighted booking.
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