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Old 07-20-2008, 01:05 PM   #2041
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Rampage is sponsered by Affliction, probably why

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Old 07-20-2008, 02:34 PM   #2042
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Anthony Johnson should've won that fight.. Def a class act though..

Silva is the man..

Mad disappointed in Vera..

Who won the Affliction shit?? Oh and Reav, I knew that shit would be bush-league compared to UFC..
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Sorry the Affliction show was no way better. Aside from the 36 second rape, the fights sucked. Total bush league show.
Umm considering both of you said you didnt see the show, you probably shouldnt talk. The show was fuckin sweet and the big ring was awsome. Small rings suck because you take three or four seps from the center, and you are in the ropes. With this they had a ton of room to move around.

They did a cool thing in showing every fight they had regardless of the place on the card. They could have done without megadeath but they added time to go get a beer or take a shit and not miss any action.

And the fights were awsome! Better than the ones UFC put on at least! Now your going to say "well Lindland was boring!!!" and yes he was, but i will retort with, "the vera fight, the anthony johnson pre finger stab to the eye fight, and the edgar fight all made me watch the television that had affliction on it." The last three fights were amazing on the affliction card. Barnett-Rizzo was classic, Arlovski raped Rothwell and Fedor showed everyone why hes number 1. The vitor fight was awsome and the babalu fight was good too.
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Old 07-20-2008, 04:33 PM   #2043
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Sorry the Affliction show was no way better. Aside from the 36 second rape, the fights sucked. Total bush league show.
I haven't seen any on the Affliction show yet, so I am kinda bias, but I figured as much..

Ole Fabien seems to have thing for riding my nuts so it's all good anyway..
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Old 07-20-2008, 04:35 PM   #2044
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Umm considering both of you said you didnt see the show, you probably shouldnt talk. The show was fuckin sweet and the big ring was awsome. Small rings suck because you take three or four seps from the center, and you are in the ropes. With this they had a ton of room to move around.

They did a cool thing in showing every fight they had regardless of the place on the card. They could have done without megadeath but they added time to go get a beer or take a shit and not miss any action.

And the fights were awsome! Better than the ones UFC put on at least! Now your going to say "well Lindland was boring!!!" and yes he was, but i will retort with, "the vera fight, the anthony johnson pre finger stab to the eye fight, and the edgar fight all made me watch the television that had affliction on it." The last three fights were amazing on the affliction card. Barnett-Rizzo was classic, Arlovski raped Rothwell and Fedor showed everyone why hes number 1. The vitor fight was awsome and the babalu fight was good too.
Just gonna say, the Anthony Johnson fight was awesome every second they were on their feet, for the record..
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I kind of liked the Edgar/Franca fight. Franca obviously had more power and if Edgar made one mistake it could have been all over for him but he kept at it and won by decision.
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Old 07-20-2008, 06:54 PM   #2046
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I haven't seen any on the Affliction show yet, so I am kinda bias, but I figured as much..

Ole Fabien seems to have thing for riding my nuts so it's all good anyway..
Whatever, I was responding to a comment I felt had no true reasoning for its opinionated nature. You called it bush league when you watched majoritively matches between guys designed to win and guys who are filling ring-space.

Affliction was good. And Reav, who also watched it entirely agrees. And I have watched both.

I would have made the same comment regardless of the fact I think you are an arse.
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Old 07-20-2008, 07:15 PM   #2047
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So, my opinion is wrong simply because your opinion differs??

Look, in my 10 plus years of watching MMA, Pride was the only promotion to ever come close to putting on half as good of a show as UFC does on a nightly bases.. If you really want to become uppity towards me for stating that opinion, fine.. I just think it's retarded to spend money on a card full of former great fighters, most of whom I cared nothing for in the first place, than to watch a free event I knew would entertain me, just because it's popular to wear tight shirts with flaming skulls on them..

Even as a "super card" Arlovski and Fedor are the only two fighters I'd pay money to see and even stating that is pushing it, seeing as Arlovski is a shell of his former self and Fedor hasn't fought anyone of worth in over three years.. Well, minus Matt Lindland, who has only one other big fight in the past three years, which was Jeremy Horn, who I have to mention, hasn't done shit either in those same three years, scine he was last in the UFC..

See a pattern there..

I refuse to spent $50 on their tight gay flaming skull shirts, why would I spend it on their attempt at a super card??
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Old 07-20-2008, 07:24 PM   #2048
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well, you decide Krisp...


Fedor vs. Tim Sylvia - MyVideo

I wouldnt say hes a shell anymore...


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Old 07-20-2008, 07:27 PM   #2049
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You know I used to mark out for him hard core..

I just don't see paying for that PPV when you could've watch UFC for free and then watched this later, for free..

Also, UFC > *..
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Old 07-20-2008, 07:28 PM   #2050
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Old 07-20-2008, 07:30 PM   #2051
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How big was Prides ring cause that one does look bigger than any I've ever seen??
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OR.... go to a bar showing both or just affliction and tape UFC.... i watched affliction for free
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Old 07-20-2008, 07:31 PM   #2053
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pride was just a standard sized rimg... this one was like 30 or 32 across
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The arlovski fight was awsome
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Old 07-20-2008, 07:35 PM   #2055
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Is anyone really gonna spend money on the Affliction PPV??

I know they have a great card but why spend money on it, when Anderson Silva, one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world, is fighting for free..
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this post makes you sound like an idiot
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What are you talking about?

Granted, Silva wasn't as short as Fedor/Sylvia... But having watched both shows, since, if you cut out the between fight bits, UFC lasted about an hour tops.. Banned was a wayyyyyyy better show. And everybody, but you of course, seemed to know it before hand anyway.

And you didn't go and meet Jake the Snake. All for 1 minutes of inevitability.

You are not a wise man.
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OR.... go to a bar showing both or just affliction and tape UFC.... i watched affliction for free
Yeah all I said was, I knew it would be an inferior product to UFC..

It was..

I also asked why someone would spend money on it..

You didn't..
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Old 07-20-2008, 07:35 PM   #2056
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Sylvia got absolutely destroyed...

I knew Fedor was gonna win, but I thought it would at least take 3 minutes. The Troll just wasn't ready.

Maybe Fedor had somewhere else to be...
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Old 07-20-2008, 07:37 PM   #2057
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Old 07-20-2008, 07:38 PM   #2058
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Yeah all I said was, I knew it would be an inferior product to UFC..

It was..

I also asked why someone would spend money on it..

You didn't..
how was it inferior?

and if there werent bars playing it i would have bought it. I was just questioning your intellegence/laziness for not finding a way to see both.
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Every other promotion outside of UFC and WEC are inferior IMO..

I am seeing both..

UFC live on tv last night..

Affliction online today/tomorrow..
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Every other promotion outside of UFC and WEC are inferior IMO..

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i just dont understand how you can have that opinion without seeing the show and being as hardcore or longtime mma fan that you say to be
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i really enjoyed the Affliction show. I've always preferred the ring to a octagon.
 
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i just dont understand how you can have that opinion without seeing the show and being as hardcore or longtime mma fan that you say to be
What are you talking about??

I've seen it now and my prediction was pretty spot on..

Why do you care that I'm a UFC fan boy??
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Old 07-21-2008, 05:57 AM   #2067
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So, my opinion is wrong simply because your opinion differs??

Look, in my 10 plus years of watching MMA, Pride was the only promotion to ever come close to putting on half as good of a show as UFC does on a nightly bases.. If you really want to become uppity towards me for stating that opinion, fine.. I just think it's retarded to spend money on a card full of former great fighters, most of whom I cared nothing for in the first place, than to watch a free event I knew would entertain me, just because it's popular to wear tight shirts with flaming skulls on them..

Even as a "super card" Arlovski and Fedor are the only two fighters I'd pay money to see and even stating that is pushing it, seeing as Arlovski is a shell of his former self and Fedor hasn't fought anyone of worth in over three years.. Well, minus Matt Lindland, who has only one other big fight in the past three years, which was Jeremy Horn, who I have to mention, hasn't done shit either in those same three years, scine he was last in the UFC..

See a pattern there..

I refuse to spent $50 on their tight gay flaming skull shirts, why would I spend it on their attempt at a super card??
I'm not big on this schoolgirl arguing, but either way...

An opinion is stated with additional words which imply it is opinion. You state things like they are fact. 'I knew it would be a bush league show'

Thats why I retort, because fact and opinion aren't stated in the same way.

Arlovski is a shell of his former self? How have you watched MMA for 10 years and still make teenager comments like that? Did you start this decade of MMA voyeurism when you were 3?

And you didn't say you think this, you stated is as a true fact. The run down of match ups you stated was very interesting, but whatever. If you like watching the bottom rung of fighters who get paid around 5k to lose to slightly better nobodies, or TUF rejects Dana tries to milk some publicity out of until the next TUF begins and they become as worthless as before, then great. I would personally rather watch a show that is stacked with fighters with world-class skills and some of the most impressive combat backgrounds in the world.

Who knows why?


Nobody is talking about their fucking t-shirts. Why would you even bother to bring up that they make t-shirts, that to be fair, you probably only dislike because they don't make your size?



Seriously, this isn't just because I don't like you, it's because you make comments from opinion, and dress them up as fact. KK does it, but he backs it up with some intelligence.
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Yeah all I said was, I knew it would be an inferior product to UFC..

It was..
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I am seeing both..

UFC live on tv last night..

Affliction online today/tomorrow..
You know what I mean?
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Old 07-21-2008, 01:35 PM   #2069
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lol

You are fucking ridiculous..

Firstly, you are putting your opinions how great the Affliction PPV was, out there like everyone who doesn't agree is wrong.. I never put my opinions across like that..

Secondly, fighters like Arlovski is a shell of his former self.. Me a Reavant have been talking about that for years, as I have been a huge Arlovski fan, and he knows/trains with the guy..

Fedor hasn't fought anyone of worth since Pride disbanned.. And even towards the end of it they were feeding him "over the hill" fighters like Mark Coleman and Matt Lindland (who ironically was on the same "THUPERCARD" you are trying to defend to me)..

I'm not even gonna comment on Tim Sylvia..

Once again, all I said was I didn't know why someone would spend their money to watch a subpar, first time promotion, over a free UFC event, when they could watch the UFC event, and then watch the Affliction event later, online..

I understand that it's important for the sport to have other big promotions to house the thousands of great fighters who aren't in UFC, but I have never seen one that's come close to the production quality UFC puts on night after night.. The Elite XC CBS show was a fucking joke and made me sad that that is what they are putting across on national tv as the best MMA in the world.. Strikeforce is pretty horrid, with Ken Shamrock being the worst commentator I've ever seen.. IFL is good, but they can barely pay their fighters and have threatened to shutdown numerous times.. The only way I've even heard of M1 and DREAM is because I frequent MMA meassage boards..

It is my opinion that UFC/WEC is a more quality product than what everyone eles is putting out there and it's not my fault you are so sensitive to take me saying that "fact" and getting your panties all in a wad..
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Whatever, that wasn't you said, this is an attempt to justify comments that didn't state your intention, according to this post.

TV Production value doesn't have anything to do with card quality and fight quality, has it? So, yeah. OK.

My point is, like I already said, is that you dogged the Affliction show and cast an opinion on it, without seeing it first. Making your opinion full of shit.

So, do we get another few paragraphs of bollocks that isn't relevant to the discussion at hand, or is that it?


Oh, and how you are STILL talking about Arlovski as past it after that fight shows you are either retarded, or still haven't watched Affliction, in which case you should really really really shut the fuck up.
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So why don't you go back and quote all this shit I talked..

Cause for the fifth time, all I said was that I figured it would be a bush league show as far a production value, with a great card, if they had had it in 2006, and that UFC is a superior product..

All of which, even being a mere opinion, turned out to be true..
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Oh and TV production is everything to me.. Sure I love great fights but if it looks like shit, it's hard to get into it..

Same with any sporting event..
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Oh and TV production is everything to me..



I'm no longer having this discussion with you.
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I'm no longer having this discussion with you.
Example:

I had a few buddies over to watch the Elite XC CBS show.. It runs about 2 hours and gets to the prefight video package for the main event, being Kimbo vs. Thompson.. We go outside, thinking we had 15 minutes, to smoke one.. We come back inside within 10 minutes and the fights had restarted.. The very first fight of the card was on.. Us being drunk and high were like WTF because there is no way it was that fast with the ring entrance, introductions, and the fight itself etc.. The show proceeded to run from the beggining for one hour and then went off the air.. Never saw Kimbo or Thompson, nothing..

Also, I work on tv so yeah..

Production quality is pretty big to me, ecspecially if I'm paying money..

Buy hey, whatever floats your boat..
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Example:

I had a few buddies over to watch the Elite XC CBS show.. It runs about 2 hours and gets to the prefight video package for the main event, being Kimbo vs. Thompson.. We go outside, thinking we had 15 minutes, to smoke one.. We come back inside within 10 minutes and the fights had restarted.. The very first fight of the card was on.. Us being drunk and high were like WTF because there is no way it was that fast with the ring entrance, introductions, and the fight itself etc.. The show proceeded to run from the beggining for one hour and then went off the air.. Never saw Kimbo or Thompson, nothing..

Also, I work on tv so yeah..

Production quality is pretty big to me, ecspecially if I'm paying money..

Buy hey, whatever floats your boat..
then you would have loved affliction them because of all the time they gave you with the band time.


also, as long as the cameras are actually on the fighters while they are fighting, then how is it hard for you to get into the fight?

I mean its a sport and the competition is making me watch it... not how well they cut from camera to camera or the quality of announcers, or animations to show height, weight and records.

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Bad production can kill a good fight..

Same way bad production can kill a potentially good movie..
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You kill potentially good discussion.

What the fuck are you on about?
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