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Old 03-06-2017, 03:43 PM   #521
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He's the no.2 merch mover by a comfortable margin (but wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy behind Cena.)


He's over as a baby with his target audience.
I thought New Day was above him.
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Old 03-06-2017, 03:46 PM   #522
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New Day seemed to be very close to Cena in merch sales for awhile.
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Old 03-06-2017, 03:54 PM   #523
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Who can be the next Rock?
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Nobody. They have to be the first "whoever the fuck they are".

Austin nor Rock was the "next" Hogan. They were entirely themselves.
The question is more "who can be the next star who transcendes the industry"


The answer is there isnt one. Not yet. This is similar to the Hart/HBK years where the guys could work but they didnt make any money.
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Old 03-06-2017, 04:03 PM   #524
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I feel both Austin and The Rock were the next Hogan for a while.
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Old 03-06-2017, 04:11 PM   #525
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I thought New Day was above him.
I cant confirm that...do you have a source? I wouldnt be *too* shocked with the volume or merch they have. Hats/shirts/wrist bands/etc
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Old 03-06-2017, 04:15 PM   #526
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CM Punk transcended wrestling only because of how terrible it was to work for the WWE at that time.

If he had been treated well, he'd never have reached as high as he did.
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Old 03-06-2017, 04:16 PM   #527
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CM Punk transcended wrestling only because of how terrible it was to work for the WWE at that time.

If he had been treated well, he'd never have reached as high as he did.
Punk was going to be unhappy no matter how they treated him
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Old 03-06-2017, 04:18 PM   #528
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Randy will be a part timer later with Cena. Don't know if anyone else from their generation will be near their level. Can't even think of another real main eventer honestly. But there have a lot of potential people in the current generation. Rollins, Reigns, Ambrose, AJ, Owens, and so on. Just depends on how many stick around and how WWE treats these people.
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Old 03-06-2017, 04:33 PM   #529
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Old 03-06-2017, 04:57 PM   #530
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The question is more "who can be the next star who transcendes the industry"


The answer is there isnt one. Not yet. This is similar to the Hart/HBK years where the guys could work but they didnt make any money.
Even if there was a real candidate now, probably not going to happen till the WWE gets rid of their current "nobody can be bigger than the brand" mentality and/or Vince leaves. Not even Reigns will be able to go beyond the "brand" in terms of mega stardom and Cena right now is the last mega star of the WWE because his rise wasn't impacted by this.
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Old 03-06-2017, 05:21 PM   #531
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Is that official policy?
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Old 03-06-2017, 05:31 PM   #532
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More on the unwritten side but places like the Observer have stated or implied over the years about that sort of mentality within the WWE. Rock leaving for Hollywood was the basis for it but didn't really take effect or become a hindrance till maybe the end of the 1st Brand Split era. By then Cena was already well established as the mega star for the WWE.
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Old 03-06-2017, 07:00 PM   #533
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• Joe/Zayn was alright but the outcome had been pretty obvious for weeks now.

• The ending of the Tag Team Championship match pretty much cements the rematch taking place at WrestleMania.

Enzo & Cass could possibly win there, even though Enzo is just terrible.

• Nia losing to Banks is just stupid. What's even more stupid is the way she lost, especially after what happened during the match.

• When Foley said that both Jinder and Rusev would be having singles matches, I just knew one of them would be against Big Show.

Cesaro/Jinder was a pleasant surprise. I can only hope this is the beginning of some investment going into Jinder.

As for Big Show/Rusev, I think Rusev came off pretty bad from that match. A part of me thinks that Big Show/Rusev could be a "backup plan" if Shaq doesn't get his act together for WrestleMania.

Also, Rusev's new haircut is terrible. He just looks like your average fatass with it. Short hair on Rusev just makes him look fat and not at all intimidating.

He's lost his "look" and just looks more like a random jobber now with that haircut.

• I skipped the Cruiserweight Championship match because the division is just awful and I have about 5% interest in it.

• Strowman losing to Reigns is just stupid. What's even more stupid is the way he lost, especially after what happened during the match.

• I skipped the Raw Women's Championship match because the division is just awful and I have about 5% interest in it.

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• I actually think Goldberg will win the Universal Championship at Fastlane, then drop the title to Lesnar at WrestleMania.
Halfway there.

• Overall, the PPV was pretty bad for so many reasons.
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Old 03-06-2017, 07:05 PM   #534
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I think i'm just going to watch Smackdown from here on out.
It's funny that you say that because I had the exact same thought as I was watching the PPV.
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I most likely won't go through with it though.

Old habits die hard and all that jazz.
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Cruiserweight match was probably match of the night, and I'm saying that with also having very little interest in the division.
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Also, Rusev's new haircut is terrible. He just looks like your average fatass with it. Short hair on Rusev just makes him look fat and not at all intimidating.

He's lost his "look" and just looks more like a random jobber now with that haircut.
He looks a lot like Andrade Cien Almas with the new hair style.

Just waiting for him to start wearing a hat and/or suspenders to complete the look. Might as well also give him his own 100-based nickname to become Rusev Cto Machka "100 Crushes"
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Was thinking the same thing about him looking like Cien.....
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LOL Am i the only one that thought Big Show vs Rusev might have been the best match of the night?
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yes, the ko punch should be an automatic DQ for closed fist.
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yes, the ko punch should be an automatic DQ for closed fist.
That actually would have been a good way to not bury either of those guys.
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Thought it was just "so mean" when Big Show put an already dead Rusev in the corner just so he could punch him in the face.......
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