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View Poll Results: Who is the better wrestler? | |||
Trish Stratus | 19 | 50.00% | |
Booker T | 19 | 50.00% | |
Voters: 38. You must log in or register to vote on this poll. |
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10-20-2016, 03:06 PM | #1 |
I am the cheese
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Better Wrestler #3
VS 3 DAYS! |
10-20-2016, 03:10 PM | #2 |
MVP Mark
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Hmmm. Now this is a good one. Going to take awhile to decide. Booker T was always amazing but if he legendary status? Hmmmmm.
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10-20-2016, 03:12 PM | #3 |
I am the cheese
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This for me is increadibly challenging but on a personal level.
WCW Booker T around the TV title run period produced some of my all time favorite matches. The stuff with Benoit, Finley, Rick Steiner, Scott Steiner so much high quality work coming from him in that time frame. His move set was killer and he got a lot of it over enough to have multiple believable finishes. His career was long and had success at every level. Trish stil wins this one though. Trish had an impact on how women would be veiwed in the business, she is a trail blazer.While I go with her, it hurts my heart to do it. |
10-20-2016, 03:29 PM | #4 |
TPWW's #3 Peep
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Booker T. Easily one of my all-time favourites, possibly even top five! Was a huge fan of him in his WCW days, all the way til now. One of the most underrated "legends" in pro wrestling, in my opinion.
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10-20-2016, 03:29 PM | #5 |
TPWW's #3 Peep
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That pic of Trish is fucking HOT though.
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10-20-2016, 03:33 PM | #6 |
His name is Jeff Harvey
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6 time world champion, gotta go with Booker T. Yeah Trish was a legend, but who was she really up against? Booker T did what he did against the best of the best.
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10-20-2016, 05:22 PM | #7 |
I'm a loner, Dottie...
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Booker T in my opinion. Trish had a huge impact on the business, and she and Lita are essentially responsible for paving the way for the current division. However, in terms of in-ring work, charisma, and overall entertainment value Booker beats her out.
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10-20-2016, 06:51 PM | #8 |
King of Love and Piss
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Trish Stratus easily.
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10-20-2016, 06:55 PM | #9 |
WOOOOOOOOO!
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I went with Trish...and that pic really IS hot!
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10-20-2016, 07:56 PM | #10 |
It's all Bullshit
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7 matches in a row witrh the same Wrestler?
What? He couldn't get it right the first time? Trish all the way this time folks |
10-21-2016, 02:00 AM | #11 |
Cranky Kong
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How many sports use a best of seven series to decide Champions?
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10-21-2016, 07:49 AM | #12 |
Best Poster
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Trish
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10-21-2016, 08:19 AM | #13 |
MVP Mark
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Arg. Had to go with Trish. She is a legend while Booker T is just a HoFer.
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10-21-2016, 08:59 AM | #14 |
Fire up Chips!
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Trish bc she is hothe. The answer will always be Trish
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10-21-2016, 09:27 AM | #15 |
I am the cheese
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tight race
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10-21-2016, 10:58 AM | #16 |
New Arcade God
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10-21-2016, 11:39 AM | #17 |
Cranky Kong
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10-21-2016, 11:40 AM | #18 |
I am the cheese
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10-21-2016, 11:50 AM | #19 |
Cranky Kong
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I don't think so. He said 'get it right', not 'beat him' or 'settle it'. Either way, point stands.
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10-21-2016, 01:55 PM | #20 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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That's a booking decision. Says nothing about the lack of quality of the wrestler. It actually means the opposite that people liked the matchup and wanted to see more.
Point unstands. |
10-21-2016, 04:14 PM | #21 |
Cranky Kong
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Hey, nincompoop. I agree with what you said there. What Fastway said is what I'm disagreeing with.
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10-21-2016, 04:19 PM | #22 |
Former TPWW Royalty
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Booker T. Had a great career in both WCW and WWE while also being one of the very few guys to be great with the King gimmick in the WWE. |
10-21-2016, 07:55 PM | #23 |
Cranky Kong
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10-21-2016, 07:56 PM | #24 |
Cranky Kong
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Everything about that Shucky Ducky image makes my heart smile.
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10-21-2016, 09:41 PM | #25 |
I'm a loner, Dottie...
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I'd pay to see Booker T do commentary on movies and shit. Hell, make a march of the penguins 2 just so he can narrate that shit. Would be amazing.
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10-21-2016, 10:25 PM | #26 |
Let me talk to ya
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Got togo with Booker T. Trish shouldn't have got past the Miz really. She's hot but she's not a better wrestler than the Miz or Booker T.
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10-21-2016, 11:06 PM | #27 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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ALL VOTE FOR KING BOOOOOOKAH!
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10-22-2016, 12:07 AM | #28 |
I am the cheese
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Gotta love a tight race
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10-22-2016, 12:29 AM | #29 |
Resident drug enabler
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"Shucky Ducky Quack Quack" is just the worst for so many reasons. Points deducted for stealing a ridiculous catchphrase from a 90's Def Jam comic and somehow making it even more corny. Trish wins.
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10-22-2016, 01:12 AM | #30 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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This is about him as a wrestler not as a commentator. Disregard any SHUCKY DUCKY QUACK QUACK!
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10-22-2016, 06:33 AM | #31 |
His name is Jeff Harvey
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I wonder how Booker T would fare if he came up in today's age. He was in there at a time when there was The Rock, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Ric Flair, Hollywood Hogan, Goldberg, The Undertaker, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Triple H, Mick Foley, etc... And he still came out of it a legend.
If he came in today's era I think he'd be right up there in with Randy Orton in terms of presentation and status. I'm honestly not sure how Trish Stratus would fare in today's age with these women. Sure you could say she was hot at a time when there were the same people that I just mentioned, but she was never in direct competition with them since she was a woman. Her greatest competition was Lita, and who would be #3? Put Trish in today's era and I'm not sure how she would fare. Put Booker T in it and I think you have another main event level star. Booker T should get the vote. |
10-22-2016, 09:29 AM | #32 |
I am the cheese
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Women are absolutely in direct competition with men. The matches aremt real. What they compete for is screen time and its far more difficult for a woman to get it than a man.
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10-22-2016, 11:01 AM | #33 | |
His name is Jeff Harvey
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You had Lita as the alternative, but not directly competing for Trish's spot. You could say Stacy Keibler and Torrie Wilson were competition in the sex appeal department, but the were wretched when it came to anything else. Jacqueline is no match in the sex appeal, and she is kind of in the Lita territory of alternative. Sable matched in the sex appeal, but was awful in the ring. Sunny set the bar for diva's and sex appeal, but she didn't/couldn't wrestle. Ivory was pretty hot and probably better in the ring, but now let's add in that casual/mainstream crowd appeal and who wins? Trish by a mile. Victoria was pretty decent in the ring (although I feel she's overrated, Trish was better.) She was okay to look at, but the creepy vibe sent her to the alternative side. It wasn't really until Mickie James debuted and feuded/dated Trish that Trish had any real competition on all sides of the fence for her spot as top diva, and by that point Trish's legacy had already been cemented. So really; until Mickie James, Trish's competition was Stacy Keibler, Torrie Wilson, Ivory, and you could probably say that Sable and Sunny were former competitors/managers that Trish strived to be better than. Trish by a mile there. No men really competed with Trish for her spot. Trish was around at a time where tits and ass were mandatory to be shown on screen, and no one's were better than hers, and no male is gonna take that spot. I'd say you could say the male wrestlers competed with the other women for a spot on tv, but one spot is already set, it's up to the women to get up there and take that spot. |
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10-22-2016, 11:30 AM | #34 |
I am the cheese
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Your argyment exists on the crux that x ammount of alloted tv existed for her gender.
This is false. Once you establish this every ounce of your argument becomes moot. Women could have been given no camera time as they had years prior or they could have been given 3 min w/entrances as they would be given once she left. Trish segments would last as long or longer as the males on the show and every second tv time given to her was at the expense of male talent. |
10-22-2016, 11:34 AM | #35 |
I am the cheese
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Let me be super clear: this is not about entitlement. Women are only entitled to the screen time that is dictated by demand for their act. Trish was the first to propell that demand on par with male acts.
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10-22-2016, 12:19 PM | #36 | |
His name is Jeff Harvey
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And they were given the 3 minute matches when she was there, the only exception would be a handful of Trish's matches. Last edited by mike adamle; 10-22-2016 at 01:20 PM. |
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10-22-2016, 01:32 PM | #37 | |
I am the cheese
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(3min w/ entrances =/= 3 min matches ftr. Most tv matches were 3-7min at that time. Divas matches post Trish were 3min w/entrances. Horrid times.) Of course none of this refutes that they were competing for men's time. Chyna worked men directly and Sable too fought for men's time no different than the women who came before or since. Pre-Sable women werent on the show. They arent under obligation to give women time every week. Since 98 weve seen big strides in the value on women's wrestling. While Trish was on thw roster they would give a solid 15min per show to Trish's segement plus another 7 to whomever they were building up to face her down the road. Thats a sizable piece of the pie. Especially then. Agaim you are coming from a place that women are somehow entitled to 20 min a night and thats revisionist history at best. |
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10-22-2016, 01:32 PM | #38 |
I am the cheese
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Tied poll btw.
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10-23-2016, 01:14 AM | #39 |
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I voted for Booker T, but I'm not sure how strongly I feel about it.
Versatility-wise, I feel that Trish is actually better. She could play a heel way better than Booker could. What Booker achieved, however, is actually incredibly admirable. He survived the WWE. They tried everything they could to stamp him out. The Invasion stuff, the shampoo commercial/comedy stuff and WrestleMania XIX all jump out. That being said, they did have Trish bark like a dog. Hmm. Booker T is one of those guys that people now say "I don't feel like he was ever top guy material," but I really think that might be confirmation bias. His size, skill, talking ability, charisma, etc. all came together in a really nice package. If he had been booked better, he could have been a major deal. I still remember that fucking reaction when he jumped the barricade and put Austin through the table. |
10-23-2016, 07:41 AM | #40 |
His name is Jeff Harvey
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Trish showed such charisma in that dog barking promo. I highly doubt anyone could've captivated the audience quite like she did in that segment.
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