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Old 02-06-2011, 10:08 PM   #1
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Another long wait till next season.



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It's going to be even longer this year
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Old 02-07-2011, 05:51 AM   #3
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2011 NFL Offseason thread.
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Wow seeing this thread is depressing.
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Gonna cry if there's no football next year. Greedy fucking owners.
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Old 02-07-2011, 12:34 PM   #6
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I think there WILL be football next year - but I honestly think it will be a shortened season. The agreement will take ages to reach and only when it is reached can free agents start signing. Then the players have to get ready and all that shit (which they won't do if there is a work stoppage).

8-10 week season probably, nearly all of the games being against division rivals. So for whoever wins the SB that year it will feel underwhelming.
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Nick Fairley * DT6-5310
Analysis: In great position, you'd have to doubt he does full workouts in Indy. A force all season, even when not 100 percent; a perfect fit for a 4-3 interior. Last week: No. 1

Da'Quan Bowers * DE6-4277
Analysis: The most gifted pure pass-rusher on the Board, Bowers has followed through on his talent. An ideal 4-3 DE, but he has a chance as a 3-4 edge. Last week: No. 2

A.J. Green * WR6-4207
Analysis: Allays any speed fears with improved route-running, and speed is fine. Green has worked hard to become a complete WR. Last week: No. 3

Patrick Peterson * CB6-1211
Analysis: An extraordinary athlete, Peterson doesn't just have safety size, he'd measure up to a lot of RBs. Great special-teams returner as well. Last week: No. 4

Marcell Dareus * DE6-3306
Analysis: A solid penetrator; pass-rush skills trump run-stopping performance thus far, which is a reason I can see him becoming a solid 3-4 DE. Last week: No. 5



Prince Amukamara CB6-1202
Analysis: Top marks for instincts, ball awareness and really good hands. It's as if he's running the WRs route sometimes. Ready to start. Last week: No. 6

Robert Quinn * DE6-4267
Analysis: Great natural pass-rusher, solid athlete, serious motor. He'll be a little raw but should shine during the workout process. Last week: No. 7

Von Miller LB6-3243
Analysis: Miller proved to scouts that he's more than a sack artist this season. He showed coverage skills to go along with known pass-rush production. Last week: No. 9

Blaine Gabbert * QB6-5232
Analysis: Strong arm, good mobility, prototype in terms of physical skills. The top QB on the Board in Luck's absence, he will be under the microscope. Last week: No. 8

Nate Solder OT6-9313
Analysis: A physical specimen, has great length, ability to add bulk to chiseled frame. Will shine in workout phase, and draft is short on elite offensive tackles. Last week: No. 11

Akeem Ayers * OLB6-4251
Analysis: Exceptional athleticism makes him versatile, but his production has also been very good. Long, with ideal OLB build, skills for 3-4 at next level. Last week: No. 12

Julio Jones * WR6-4211
Analysis: When healthy, Jones was dominant; when not, he was still good in 2010. Overcame drop issues; improved route-running showed off speed. Last week: No. 10

Cam Newton * QB6-6250
Analysis: Great size and athleticism, but also underrated accuracy. Extends plays; good patience. Lacks experience and refinement aside from throwing motion. Last week: No. 15

Cameron Jordan DE6-4283
Analysis: A great Senior Bowl week for Jordan. Versatile, coming from 3-4, but ideal size for 4-3. Solid vs. run, should improve rush. Last week: NR

Aldon Smith * OLB6-4262
Analysis: Great frame and athleticism; Smith has some raw elements to his game but he can rush the passer and could develop into a stud on the edge. Last week: No. 14

Ryan Kerrigan DE6-4259
Analysis: Production is no concern for possible 3-4 OLB, or 4-3 DE. Kerrigan led nation with 26 TFL and was impossible to block, even against double-teams. Last week: No. 13

Mark Ingram * RB5-10216
Analysis: Patient runner, knows how to set up and wait for blocks; big-time competitor; good burst but not top-end speed. Won't shy from contact. Last week: No. 17

Gabe Carimi OT6-7327
Analysis: A solid year of tape, battling a number of high draft picks. Better footwork, added consistency. Excellent frame; could go LT or RT. Last week: No. 19

Tyron Smith * OT6-5290
Analysis: Could become top tackle here. Good frame, athleticism and quickness; could add bulk, but deceptive leverage, strength. Last week: No. 22

Adrian Clayborn DE6-3282
Analysis: Good size, capable of playing 3-4 DE. Good motor; batters O-linemen. Needs to refine rush skills; down year for sacks but faced more attention. Last week: No. 16

J.J. Watt * DE6-6286
Analysis: Watt offers versatility, as a fit in either a 3-4 or 4-3 scheme. Relentless worker, solid pass-rush skills. Precise weight a question. Last week: No. 18

Anthony Castonzo OT6-7306
Analysis: Smart, reliable with solid footwork, but could add lower-body strength and overall bulk to improve leverage. Consistent worker; smart player. Last week: No. 21

Muhammad Wilkerson * DT6-5306
Analysis: Committed earlier than I expected, but has first-round talent. Scheme-flexible, disruptive, strong penetrator, could work in 3-4 or 4-3. Last week: No. 24

Torrey Smith WR6-1200
Analysis: Not just a speed threat, Smith has been productive. Good size, solid technician, can work over the top or underneath. Last week: NR

Rahim Moore * S6-1197
Analysis: Top overall safety, with outstanding coverage skills. Has improved tackling, ability to help near the line of scrimmage. Great instincts; ballhawk. Last week: NR
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Trade down for a later pick in the round and maybe another one in round 2? I wouldn't want to pay for first round number one draft pick and then have them not even play.
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Instead of drafting another DE, I hope the Giants get some LBs. It's definitely the weak link of the defense.

That and Antrelle Rolle.
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Super Bowl XLV was the most-watched Super Bowl ever on Canadian television with an audience of 7.3 million viewers on CTV (6.54 million) and RDS (754,000) on Sunday night. Preliminary overnight data from BBM Canada confirms that the Green Bay Packers' thrilling victory over the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday was the most-watched television broadcast in Canada since the Vancouver 2010 Olympic Winter Games.

The national audience for Super Bowl XLV is 5.3% higher than last year's NFL championship game that had a national average audience of 6.9 million viewers.

The game received a 62-share among adults aged 18-49 and 25-54, with a 68-share for men aged 25-54, meaning more than two of three Canadians in this demo watching TV on Sunday night were tuned to Super Bowl XLV on CTV (English Canada).

Overall, Super Bowl XLV was watched by 17.3 million unique viewers, or more than one in two Canadians (52.2%), on CTV and RDS.
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I thought he meant next Sunday's Super Bowl
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That should make the Canadian Football League people pretty depressed.
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Technically yes. But from what I can gather, the owners have all of the bargaining power in this situation...and they feel the players are asking for too much.

The owners who sit in the luxury suites have the power already and will still be filthy rich whether there is football or not. Whereas the players who are the ones busting their asses and risking injury each and every week are the ones backed into the corner, especially the guys about to hit free agency and who will be unemployed until this is resolved. Sure, a lot of players will still be well off without paychecks, but they aren't making anywhere close to the amount the owners make.

If/when this gets settled, the owners will still get the better end of the deal by a huge margin. I doubt most (but not all) of them care that football is important to a lot of people in this country...so they have little reason to cave in to the players.
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Hope Amukamara falls to Dallas..and they better fucking draft him if he's there.
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He will probably draft another fucking WR or another RB that we will never use.
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Technically yes. But from what I can gather, the owners have all of the bargaining power in this situation...and they feel the players are asking for too much.

The owners who sit in the luxury suites have the power already and will still be filthy rich whether there is football or not. Whereas the players who are the ones busting their asses and risking injury each and every week are the ones backed into the corner, especially the guys about to hit free agency and who will be unemployed until this is resolved. Sure, a lot of players will still be well off without paychecks, but they aren't making anywhere close to the amount the owners make.

If/when this gets settled, the owners will still get the better end of the deal by a huge margin. I doubt most (but not all) of them care that football is important to a lot of people in this country...so they have little reason to cave in to the players.
I dunno man, the revenue split the players proposed was just silly if you think about it. 50/50 sounds good on the outset, but the owners are fronting the majority of the costs (pretty much all the overhead really), so they should be getting a larger piece of the pie, relative to the players who are paying very little out of pocket to "maintain" the league.
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Guarantee the Giants will end up with a first rounder that makes no sense, like a fullback or another defensive end.
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Colts released Bob Sanders today. Wow. I know he's been injury prone but still kinda surprising they gave up on him now.
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Cowboys should scoop up Sanders, I know he's injured, but even a half crippled Bob Sanders would be an upgrade to the secondary at this point.
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Disappointed with Bob Sanders being released, but I can't say I didn't see it coming. In fact, I would say he had a perfect shot for a second chance last season and blew it. It sucks that he can be injured like that, and one could say it's not really his fault, but in the long run the team can't rely on him and can't build a defense around a playstyle that simply isn't there when it counts. His style is one that makes huge impacts and needs to be focused on. But that's what hurts so much when he's not on the field.
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Disappointed with Bob Sanders being released, but I can't say I didn't see it coming. In fact, I would say he had a perfect shot for a second chance last season and blew it. It sucks that he can be injured like that, and one could say it's not really his fault, but in the long run the team can't rely on him and can't build a defense around a playstyle that simply isn't there when it counts. His style is one that makes huge impacts and needs to be focused on. But that's what hurts so much when he's not on the field.
Man, this sucks. This guy was awesome in the few games I saw with him in it.
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Also, I want to learn more, so someone tell why in all seriousness what was wrong with the Colts last year.

Obviously most understand the game better then I.
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Injuries and a "vanilla" style offense that barely changed over the years. The reason it worked very well was due to Peyton being accurate and his O-line being very strong to give him time.

Once he lost his top WRs and his O-line began to struggle, the Colts couldn't fix it without messing up their whole timing system.
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Ah, so what do they need to adress besides hoping players recover, what positions do they need?
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Mostly on the Offense side to either give more depth or develop players to replace a pretty old O-line. ESPN is predicting the Colts might take a WR as their first pick.

They could go with a defensive player but the problem is all the big name or quality ones are expected to go in the early part of the draft (8 of 1st 10 picks are supposed to be defensive players).

Even Belichick who normally likes to go with a defensive player in the first round is expected to pick a offensive player (probably WR or O-line) since the Patriots are too high up in the first round and this year they want to give better depth on the offensive side of the team.
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Who would be the best they could draft for O-line.
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