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Old 10-23-2015, 02:46 PM   #161
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Yes JR said both things.
So i was right. How not surprising.
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Old 10-24-2015, 08:34 PM   #162
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So basically what cynick said that got shit on as trolling?
No, actually.
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Old 10-26-2015, 12:26 PM   #163
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I dont think anyone is ready to take the ball and run with it on the babyface side. Unless of course they wanted to go with Brock as champion again, which I am 100% behind.

I like the idea of building up Mania to a Triple Threat between the 3 Shield guys. I would do a deal where HHH and Rollins begin to show they are not on the same page. Then you do something where Reigns wins the Rumble again, but its controversial, and you create a backdoor way for Ambrose to be added to the match via the Network Special in February. Then you do a deal where Rollins makes a big deal about how he wants to do this on his own, doesnt want The Authority helping him, he wants to prove he's the man from The Shield once and for all. As Mania draws near, HHH and Stephanie reveal that one of the other two guys have reached out to The Authority to become the new face of the WWE. Reigns and Ambrose build tension, Reigns accuses Ambrose and vice versa. Ultimately they decide that Rollins is stirring the pot, and he's really the one who's going to have The Authority in his corner, despite what he's been saying. Then at Mania, Reigns is the one who aligns himself with Trips and Steph, but in the process Rollins would have had the match won which will help move him to the babyface side.
Its pretty god damn close.
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Old 10-26-2015, 04:15 PM   #164
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I can now see that being the booking for Survivor Series. Should be clearer after tonight.
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Old 10-27-2015, 03:59 PM   #165
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Its pretty god damn close.
That's not what he was accused of trolling for.
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Old 10-27-2015, 04:02 PM   #166
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That's not what he was accused of trolling for.
Everyone should just have a blanket apology for ever referring to me as a troll.

It's completely unwarranted. And yet I still push forward.
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Old 10-27-2015, 04:15 PM   #167
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Old 10-27-2015, 07:58 PM   #168
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Theres so much fucking trolling that when you discuss actual wrestling concepts people get accused of trolling for being serious. Then the rasslin is serious guy pops up. Then a tatanka picture, then an owen brown meltdown, jazzy brings up a diva, noid writes a story and the sun rises again
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Old 10-27-2015, 08:10 PM   #169
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Seth now 20 percent of the way there, looking at the current roster and style of booking, do you see anyone who will hit the thousand day club in the future? Brock has a legit shot if he gets a serious reign
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Old 10-27-2015, 09:03 PM   #170
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Theres so much fucking trolling that when you discuss actual wrestling concepts people get accused of trolling for being serious. Then the rasslin is serious guy pops up. Then a tatanka picture, then an owen brown meltdown, jazzy brings up a diva, noid writes a story and the sun rises again
You forgot "NormanSmiley acts like a tough guy and then pussies out of a fight".
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Old 10-27-2015, 09:08 PM   #171
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Old 10-27-2015, 10:07 PM   #173
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Old 10-28-2015, 08:26 AM   #174
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Old 10-28-2015, 09:24 AM   #175
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It's a sad state.

It's okay, we'll whip this place into shape. It's like coming back to your childhood home and seeing its been vandalized and used as a crack house. So now you've come home, and you just gotta fix the place up one weed at a time.
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Old 10-28-2015, 06:16 PM   #176
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And then it turns out you're actually in the mental asylum eating from the skip and yelling at the nurses.
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Old 10-28-2015, 06:31 PM   #177
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You know I kinda wish this place was a crack den sometimes. At least then there would be an excuse for people (and I use that term loosely) like CyNick to be so disconnected from reality all the damn time.
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Old 10-28-2015, 06:37 PM   #178
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There would actually be figures like Tammy hovering around blowing owenbrown.
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Old 10-28-2015, 07:09 PM   #179
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You know I kinda wish this place was a crack den sometimes. At least then there would be an excuse for people (and I use that term loosely) like CyNick to be so disconnected from reality all the damn time.
Congrats, you got me to quote you in one of my posts. The highlight of your run on here.
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Old 10-28-2015, 07:13 PM   #180
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Wishbone is fantastic, CyNick. C'mon now.
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Old 10-29-2015, 11:41 PM   #181
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Dean Ambrose could easily be the #1 babyface.
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Old 10-30-2015, 12:15 AM   #182
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Totally agree. The guy is super charismatic. He has a great look and is more than solid in the ring, especially for the mainstream WWE style of matches.
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Old 10-30-2015, 12:21 AM   #183
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Gotta agree 100% with James Steele. Ambrose has that badass anti-hero vibe about him that people would just eat up. He's also not nearly as small as people make him out to be so the whole "vanilla midget" thing doesn't apply to him. He's about the same size as Rollins, and Rollins looks perfectly in place standing next to guys as big as Triple H. If they'd actually book Ambrose correctly he could surpass any of the current "next top guys" WWE has running around. He's not a bad looking dude, he's got crossover appeal, he's good on the mic and he's above average in the ring. He's about as close to the total package as we've seen in over a decade.
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Old 10-30-2015, 01:43 AM   #184
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I dunno, there's something that's not all together there with Ambrose. I think it's how he's presented. He kind of meanders and doesn't win the big one. Could that all change? Sure, and I'd love it to -- but I feel he's going to make his most money as a vicious heel.
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I can't wait for the WWE to move past this Authority stuff, because I feel there's a whole new exciting saga with a top heel that isn't connected to Triple H and Stephanie McMahon in any fashion.
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Old 10-30-2015, 09:59 AM   #187
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I can't wait for the WWE to move past this Authority stuff, because I feel there's a whole new exciting saga with a top heel that isn't connected to Triple H and Stephanie McMahon in any fashion.
Trips and Steph are not going anywhere so I believe they should be the central figures on the show. You can invest time and money into a character and they can bolt leaving a void. Any investment into the Hunter and Steph characters you know are for the long term.

Doesn't mean you can't phase then in and out of TV as the focal point, but they should always have a presence.
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You know, the way you get around a void left by departing or injured talent is by building a protecting several guys who could be considered top heel or face material. That way, if you run into another Lesnar or Bryan situation, you have a well built replacement waiting in the wings.
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Old 10-30-2015, 12:36 PM   #189
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I'd be less sick of The Authority if their characters and their motives were more consistent. Like when Steph does stuff related to the Divas Revolution, she's sincerely trying to play to the crowd. But then that very night she'll be in a segment where she's very blatantly meant to be a heel.

I dunno, it's just awkward. You'd never see Vince McMahon circa late 1998/early 1999 open a show all smileyfaced running through the match card to big cheers only to revert to his usual "I hate Austin" self a few segments later. He'd stay out of anything not related to Austin or DX or whoever.
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To that end...that's gotta be one of my biggest pet peeves in wrestling. Why is it that nearly every week the main event gets booked, seemingly organically and on-the-fly, in the opening segment?

I know I know, "that's just wrestling" but christ. Are we to assume that The Authority were so busy during the week that they couldn't sit down and figure out a main event for Raw until after the broadcast has already started? That's some Paul Heyman-on-speed ECW stuff.
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You know, the way you get around a void left by departing or injured talent is by building a protecting several guys who could be considered top heel or face material. That way, if you run into another Lesnar or Bryan situation, you have a well built replacement waiting in the wings.
Its tough to find a ton of guys who fit that bill. There isn't an assembly line of top talent just waiting to get their shot.

You know Hunter and Steph are amazing at their jobs. They can be used to give the rub to new talent but maintain their presence.
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I'd be less sick of The Authority if their characters and their motives were more consistent. Like when Steph does stuff related to the Divas Revolution, she's sincerely trying to play to the crowd. But then that very night she'll be in a segment where she's very blatantly meant to be a heel.

I dunno, it's just awkward. You'd never see Vince McMahon circa late 1998/early 1999 open a show all smileyfaced running through the match card to big cheers only to revert to his usual "I hate Austin" self a few segments later. He'd stay out of anything not related to Austin or DX or whoever.
I find that odd as well with Steph. But sure the reasoning behind it.
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To that end...that's gotta be one of my biggest pet peeves in wrestling. Why is it that nearly every week the main event gets booked, seemingly organically and on-the-fly, in the opening segment?

I know I know, "that's just wrestling" but christ. Are we to assume that The Authority were so busy during the week that they couldn't sit down and figure out a main event for Raw until after the broadcast has already started? That's some Paul Heyman-on-speed ECW stuff.
But thats been going on since like 1997. They think it's better to start the show open ended where anything can happen.

I don't think it's s big deal, but I do like the odd time where you pump up a TV match a week ahead of time.
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Its tough to find a ton of guys who fit that bill. There isn't an assembly line of top talent just waiting to get their shot.

You know Hunter and Steph are amazing at their jobs. They can be used to give the rub to new talent but maintain their presence.
While I agree in principle, the current roster has several main event caliber players who, if protected, are easily believable as main eventers. Reigns and Ambrose on the face side, Wyatt as a heel, even Owens. If those 4 are consistently kept protected from constan losing and go over enough, they're interchangeable. Owens has been booked well since the Cena feud, I have top admit. I'm iffy on Reigns only because I feel he's lacking that one big match win. Beating Wyatt, who hasn't won a long term feud in ages it seems, came off as just spinning Reigns' wheels, imo.

Wyatt and Ambrose are a bit further than those two. They'd need to go over really well the next few months.

Nonetheless, that's a helluva lot of of depth.
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While I agree in principle, the current roster has several main event caliber players who, if protected, are easily believable as main eventers. Reigns and Ambrose on the face side, Wyatt as a heel, even Owens. If those 4 are consistently kept protected from constan losing and go over enough, they're interchangeable. Owens has been booked well since the Cena feud, I have top admit. I'm iffy on Reigns only because I feel he's lacking that one big match win. Beating Wyatt, who hasn't won a long term feud in ages it seems, came off as just spinning Reigns' wheels, imo.

Wyatt and Ambrose are a bit further than those two. They'd need to go over really well the next few months.

Nonetheless, that's a helluva lot of of depth.
I agree, you have named some guys that WWE has turned into stars.

I think Wyatt is an example of a guy kinda like Foley back in the day, where they feel he doesn't need to win a lot, he can talk and stay over. The fight with Reigns at HIAC was great, and I think both guys were further ahead because of it.

Owens to me is a guy who can go as far as he wants, he just needs to prove he is serious about wanting to be a top guy. Assuming he does I think he's heading in the right direction. He's the classic IC title guy that you can see moving to the next level. If there is a babyface world champ coming out of Mania, I can see him positioned as a major challenger.

Ambrose is a guy who has grown on me. He's another guy who WWE seems to think can lose and not hurt him. I would like to see him get a solid run of wins or at least a long term program for the IC title.
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